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    Regarding all those people who label certain subjects as 'soft' - Do you think these people have even studied said subjects? In my opinion you can only label a subject as 'soft' if you have studied it yourself.

    Psychology and Sociology certainly aren't 'soft' as far as I'm concerned. Michael Gove labelled these as 'soft'. As well as Astronomy???
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    I totally agree as a student taking Drama and Theatre Studies.

    It's what people label 'non-mainstream' subjects as nowadays.
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    Just to add, here are subjects that I myself have studied, which are labelled as 'soft' (and my thoughts on each):

    Psychology - Requires a TON of revision
    Sociology - Requires a fair amount of revision, although easier than Psychology
    Media - I guess I agree that this one is 'soft'
    Drama - For me personally, it was easy
    Law - Not 'soft' at all. Requires lots of revision, and is just as challenging as History
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    I did GCSE Edexcel Drama and was in a class of 18. 11 of the pupils were 'set 1 / A* students'; indicating that it's not a subject solely taken by the less academic looking for an 'easy course'. The subject was fiercely competitive among my class with a 100% A* / A target.

    Drama was certainly the most challenging subject for me, being as it's one of the only subjects that I'd be content with an A in (and it was a very different subject for me to work towards as well as the work load). Anyhow, here is the course structure:

    2000 word examination evaluation essay, 1000 word examination evaluation essay, 2000 word documentary response (plus the numerous mock essays which we did).

    14x 60 minute examination lessons.

    A 45 minute self-directed performance shown to a live examiner and audience.

    Oh an you need 97% for an A*. Soft? **** off.
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    (Original post by Ecconomist)
    Oh an you need 97% for an A*. Soft? **** off.
    Surely that indicates that the marks are very easy to get, so the boundary has to be incredibly high? If it were harder, the boundary would be much lower to allow more people to get the top grades, as well as just pass.
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    I can recall a user on here calling GCSE art a "Mickey Mouse" subject. I disagree completely. Although I didn't take it, I can imagine that GCSE art students must have to work their arses off and put in so much time and effort to get those grades. I remember a girl in my year who took triple sciences, Spanish, art and history for her choices and she was predicted stellar grades in all subjects.

    I think art is one of the hardest subjects that you can choose for one of your GCSE options, and I admire those who take it.
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    So whats the actual definition of a soft subject? Does it just mean 'easy?'

    (Original post by TaciturnPhantom)
    I can recall a user on here calling GCSE art a "Mickey Mouse" subject. I disagree completely. Although I didn't take it, I can imagine that GCSE art students must have to work their arses off and put in so much time and effort to get those grades. I remember a girl in my year who took triple sciences, Spanish, art and history for her choices and she was predicted stellar grades in all subjects.
    (Original post by TaciturnPhantom)

    I think art is one of the hardest subjects that you can choose for one of your GCSE options, and I admire those who take it.


    ye art is definately the most time consuming of all the subjects. Unless you're doing some crappy modern art toothbrush in an apple type stuff.
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    You don't need to study a subject to know it's soft, in the same way you don't need to eat **** to know it doesn't taste nice.

    https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/index.php?pageid=604

    This is pretty much as authoritative a list as you can get on what constitutes a soft subject.
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    Does anyone actually care / believe / is bothered by / what Michael Gove has to say?

    Personally, I literally have no idea how he got a job in 'education' when he appears to have no concept of how it works... sigh... rant over...

    I feel there are no 'soft' subjects...

    So, I don't do mathematic equations that have a definitive answer.

    Try reading, interpreting, discussing and writing an essay for 3 Shakespeare plays each week and tell me English Lit is a 'soft subject!'

    Or reading in medieval or even old English... I read and understand 3 types of English... what can Gove do? Right, remove literary genius from a book list just because he dislikes Of Mice and Men.... plonker... so glad he got moved... ok so I tried... you mention Gove and my teaching, literary and mental superiority gets its back up....

    *disclaimer - All of which I speak is in jest.... why would you take an English Grad seriously? It's not as if I have a job in politics or anything... I am just a State school educated soft subject studier... pay me no heed... I am merely a peasant....*
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    Agreed.

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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    You don't need to study a subject to know it's soft, in the same way you don't need to eat **** to know it doesn't taste nice.

    https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/index.php?pageid=604

    This is pretty much as authoritative a list as you can get on what constitutes a soft subject.
    That link reeks of bull.

    "A-levels Suitable Only As Fourth Subjects " - Science
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    You don't need to do a subject to know it's soft, to me a subject being soft doesn't mean it's easy it means it's less useful
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    Hahahaha, I thought this was about degree subjects when I saw the threat title then realised it was GCSEs. Either way it's all relative. Some people will find some things harder than others.
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    (Original post by KettleMan)
    That link reeks of bull.

    "A-levels Suitable Only As Fourth Subjects " - Science
    You don't understand. There is a separate A-level entitled 'Science', which is quite basic and draws on content from biology, chemistry and physics. It doesn't mean that biology, chemistry and physics are only suitable as fourth subjects. The content in this stand-alone A-level is not as challenging as the suitable subjects and is no basis for any further study of science.

    http://www.ocr.org.uk/qualifications...-as-only-h178/

    http://www.aqa.org.uk/subjects/scien...n-society-2400
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    (Original post by Pectorac)
    You don't understand. There is a separate A-level entitled 'Science', which is quite basic and draws on content from biology, chemistry and physics. It doesn't mean that biology, chemistry and physics are only suitable as fourth subjects. The content in this stand-alone A-level is not as challenging as the suitable subjects and is no basis for any further study of science.

    http://www.ocr.org.uk/qualifications...-as-only-h178/
    Apologies, I didn't realise there was a separate A-level entitled 'Science'
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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    You don't need to study a subject to know it's soft, in the same way you don't need to eat **** to know it doesn't taste nice.

    https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/index.php?pageid=604

    This is pretty much as authoritative a list as you can get on what constitutes a soft subject.

    An authoritative list on the snobbery that is ever denied by Oxbridge... Apparently creativity is trumped by paying your way in, who daddy knows and Uncle Winston affectionately known as Lord Hoightitoight.

    But seriously, no subject that you specialise in should be regarded as soft. It is just not on 'their agreed upon terms' - being perfectly honest, you wouldn't be applying to Oxbridge if you wanted to do drama etc - doubt they even do it - you would go to the top in your chosen field of study.

    You go to Oxbridge if you want to use the name to get you everywhere in the future - aka politics and law... - no one chooses to go for 'the experience' or to 'make lifelong friends' it seems to be a place where you people please - speaking from experience - and you will only get in if your private school preps you for all the interviews, or you go on their summer courses, or again you know someone.... the politics begins before you even apply.

    If you want to get a career in what you love then go for the uni you like, the lecturers you like, the course structure you like. It's so expensive to go nowadays, you need to be happy.... after my interview, I decided I didn't want to go to Cambridge as I would have either murdered my classmates or self within the first week, it reeked of pretension, snobbery and conformity.... no thanks... I'd rather be happy, have all my lovely friends and a good degree and be myself without trying to 'fit in' ....

    I'm sure it's changed in 10 years, I like to hope it's less snobby and more diverse, but judging from their list... not so much. I went to Southampton University and loved every minute and don't regret it one tiny bit!
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    (Original post by EL704)
    Does anyone actually care / believe / is bothered by / what Michael Gove has to say?

    Personally, I literally have no idea how he got a job in 'education' when he appears to have no concept of how it works... sigh... rant over...

    I feel there are no 'soft' subjects...

    So, I don't do mathematic equations that have a definitive answer.

    Try reading, interpreting, discussing and writing an essay for 3 Shakespeare plays each week and tell me English Lit is a 'soft subject!'

    Or reading in medieval or even old English... I read and understand 3 types of English... what can Gove do? Right, remove literary genius from a book list just because he dislikes Of Mice and Men.... plonker... so glad he got moved... ok so I tried... you mention Gove and my teaching, literary and mental superiority gets its back up....

    *disclaimer - All of which I speak is in jest.... why would you take an English Grad seriously? It's not as if I have a job in politics or anything... I am just a State school educated soft subject studier... pay me no heed... I am merely a peasant....*
    I just want to say that English Lit ISN'T considered a soft subject.
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    (Original post by EL704)
    An authoritative list on the snobbery that is ever denied by Oxbridge... Apparently creativity is trumped by paying your way in, who daddy knows and Uncle Winston affectionately known as Lord Hoightitoight.

    But seriously, no subject that you specialise in should be regarded as soft. It is just not on 'their agreed upon terms' - being perfectly honest, you wouldn't be applying to Oxbridge if you wanted to do drama etc - doubt they even do it - you would go to the top in your chosen field of study.

    You go to Oxbridge if you want to use the name to get you everywhere in the future - aka politics and law... - no one chooses to go for 'the experience' or to 'make lifelong friends' it seems to be a place where you people please - speaking from experience - and you will only get in if your private school preps you for all the interviews, or you go on their summer courses, or again you know someone.... the politics begins before you even apply.

    If you want to get a career in what you love then go for the uni you like, the lecturers you like, the course structure you like. It's so expensive to go nowadays, you need to be happy.... after my interview, I decided I didn't want to go to Cambridge as I would have either murdered my classmates or self within the first week, it reeked of pretension, snobbery and conformity.... no thanks... I'd rather be happy, have all my lovely friends and a good degree and be myself without trying to 'fit in' ....

    I'm sure it's changed in 10 years, I like to hope it's less snobby and more diverse, but judging from their list... not so much. I went to Southampton University and loved every minute and don't regret it one tiny bit!
    I agree with some of what you're saying but I don't really think there is any nepotism in applying to Oxbridge. Those who go to State schools or from difficult socio-economic backgrounds need less good grades to get it so it balances out. And the interviewer won't care who your dad or your uncles is.
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    Then I guess most of you all won't know what constitutes a hard subject
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    I agree in that I don't think you should really judge subjects. Some of the things you hear from people who have no idea about course content or work loads are ridiculous.

    To give an example, two of the subjects I studied were art and psychology and I was asked why I was doing "easy" subjects or "soft subjects", by people who really had no idea how much work came with them.

    Yeah they may not be the most difficult subjects, but don't tell me they're easy when you haven't studied them and you're just assuming that they require no effort/thinking/work :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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