UK forced to pay £710 million to build Romanian railways

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Do you agree the UK should be paying hundreds of millions of pounds to build railways in other countries of that the money should be spent in the UK

http://iainmckie.co.uk/revelation-uk...published-sun/
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I'm from Poland, and the country has been given even more money from the EU than Romania over the last 10 years. The money was first spent on constructing motorways (there was only one motorway in the country before - and Poland is considerably larger than the UK), and now is geared towards railways.

The infrastructure has considerably changed Poland, and boosted the economy. A stronger Polish economy undoubtedly helps the British economy grow - Poland trades a lot with the UK.

But even more importantly, and an issue that is completely ignored in Western Europe, when this spending is discussed - most of the money given by the EU to countries like Poland or Romania goes to Western construction companies. Most if not all of the Polish motorways were constructed by companies from Germany, France, or the UK. I read in a newspaper a while back that for every euro given to Poland, something like €1.20 makes its way back to the West.
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(Original post by DominikS)
I'm from Poland, and the country has been given even more money from the EU than Romania over the last 10 years. The money was first spent on constructing motorways (there was only one motorway in the country before - and Poland is considerably larger than the UK), and now is geared towards railways.

The infrastructure has considerably changed Poland, and boosted the economy. A stronger Polish economy undoubtedly helps the British economy grow - Poland trades a lot with the UK.

But even more importantly, and an issue that is completely ignored in Western Europe, when this spending is discussed - most of the money given by the EU to countries like Poland or Romania goes to Western construction companies. Most if not all of the Polish motorways were constructed by companies from Germany, France, or the UK. I read in a newspaper a while back that for every euro given to Poland, something like €1.20 makes its way back to the West.
The EU only ever bleeds the UK dry of course the poor Eastern countries like Poland & Romania love the EU they are getting billions whilst the UK is being bleed dry for billions & flooded with immigrants
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What's the matter, don't you like international socialism? :rolleyes:
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I feel for poor Eastern European countries for how they suffered under communism. Nazi's invade Poland it's an evil crime, Communist Jews invade Poland and massacre many it's ignored.
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I actually agree with you OP, but it's a very small amount that won't really hurt us.
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I don't see the problem.

I also wonder about the accuracy of the figures Mr McKie cites. The fact that Romania is to receive EUR7.2 Billion is accepted. But how has he calculated the UK's contribution?
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(Original post by DominikS)
I'm from Poland, and the country has been given even more money from the EU than Romania over the last 10 years. The money was first spent on constructing motorways (there was only one motorway in the country before - and Poland is considerably larger than the UK), and now is geared towards railways.

The infrastructure has considerably changed Poland, and boosted the economy. A stronger Polish economy undoubtedly helps the British economy grow - Poland trades a lot with the UK.
True, but so would Britain buying £x billion of the Polish stock market, and it'd be more profitable.

The biggest problem with this sort of development aid is that it doesn't work. Poland has developed, but it has made sweeping institutional reforms at the same time. Countries that didn't do that, but received even more development aid, have failed to develop. So investing in the Polish stock market would also have been more useful.

But even more importantly, and an issue that is completely ignored in Western Europe, when this spending is discussed - most of the money given by the EU to countries like Poland or Romania goes to Western construction companies. Most if not all of the Polish motorways were constructed by companies from Germany, France, or the UK. I read in a newspaper a while back that for every euro given to Poland, something like €1.20 makes its way back to the West.
Similarly, if I gave you 5 Euros with which to buy a sandwich from me for 5 Euros, all the money would have found its way back to me. But I'm still out a sandwich.
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(Original post by DominikS)
I'm from Poland, and the country has been given even more money from the EU than Romania over the last 10 years. The money was first spent on constructing motorways (there was only one motorway in the country before - and Poland is considerably larger than the UK), and now is geared towards railways.

The infrastructure has considerably changed Poland, and boosted the economy. A stronger Polish economy undoubtedly helps the British economy grow - Poland trades a lot with the UK.

But even more importantly, and an issue that is completely ignored in Western Europe, when this spending is discussed - most of the money given by the EU to countries like Poland or Romania goes to Western construction companies. Most if not all of the Polish motorways were constructed by companies from Germany, France, or the UK. I read in a newspaper a while back that for every euro given to Poland, something like €1.20 makes its way back to the West.

Eastern Europe is Western Europe charity case. Polish, romanians, Slovaks, Bulgarians, Lithuanians etc are nothing more than beggars to Western Europe
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