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    So which would you prefer, do you think the Nazi's would have done a better job of running Europe?
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    it's a no brainer, clearly the democratic, peace loving, egalitarian utopia that was Nazi Germany is better than the EU
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    Actually, neither.

    We should have kept the british Empire, and left the rest of Europe behind. Trade with them , yes, but let them develop themselves.

    If Britain was running the EU, most of us would want to stay in it.

    The problem is we are slaves to it.
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    It must be Hitler's Europe. He ran those nice summer camps.
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    Britain should not be under the rule of anyone.

    We can stand on our own two feet.
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    What the hell is the point of these threads? There are worse things than the EU, but that is no measure of whether the EU is a good thing and no useful point of discussion
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    Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, dude, at least it's an ethos.
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    Whichever one would ban you from making threads.
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    Actually, neither.

    We should have kept the british Empire, and left the rest of Europe behind. Trade with them , yes, but let them develop themselves.

    If Britain was running the EU, most of us would want to stay in it.

    The problem is we are slaves to it.
    You have a point, though I would prefer to say that empire itself is the problem. I do believe that Britain is much better at running countries than France or Germany (notwithstanding their allegedly superior public services).
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    You have a point, though I would prefer to say that empire itself is the problem. I do believe that Britain is much better at running countries than France or Germany (notwithstanding their allegedly superior public services).
    Isn't this a contradiction?
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    As long as the EU doesn't pretend that it has any moral principles that weren't given to it by the US and UK, I'm fine with it.
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    (Original post by betaglucowhat)
    Whichever one would ban you from making threads.
    Ill bank on Hitler's Europe... ill call him tomorrow I don't want to be charged this late as itl cost a bit to text to Argentina.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    As long as the EU doesn't pretend that it has any moral principles that weren't given to it by the US and UK, I'm fine with it.
    Why does it matter who takes credit? Surely it's more important who enforces it. Also Human Rights goes way back.
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    (Original post by DErasmus)
    Isn't this a contradiction?
    No. There is more to running a country than providing trains which run on time. It is about having and maintaining a stable, free and prosperous society.

    Britain's last civil war was in the 17th century. Europe had three major wars in the 20th century and more in the 19th, though Britain was partly at fault for WW1 ending up the way it did.

    Also, the two greatest evils of human history both came from Europe, and both were fought by Britain and the United States.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    No. There is more to running a country than providing trains which run on time. It is about having and maintaining a stable, free and prosperous society.

    Britain's last civil war was in the 17th century. Europe had three major wars in the 20th century and more in the 19th, though Britain was partly at fault for WW1 ending up the way it did.
    Hey the war was a long time ago... Clutching at straws there. British identity clinging to the Second World War.
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    (Original post by DErasmus)
    Why does it matter who takes credit? Surely it's more important who enforces it. Also Human Rights goes way back.
    I just don't want people getting the idea that the EU has any backbone, or prevents war (it doesn't - democracy does).
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    Oh my goodness is this a joke? I'm no big fan of the EU but Hitlers Germany was scary as hell even if you weren't in the camps. You sir, should probably give up breathing or at the very least typing.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    I just don't want people getting the idea that the EU has any backbone, or prevents war (it doesn't - democracy does).
    EU enforces democracy, ideas don't do anything, people do.
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    (Original post by DErasmus)
    Hey the war was a long time ago... Clutching at straws there. British identity clinging to the Second World War.
    Not really. Europe today is a (positive) legacy of what the US and UK forced on it.
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    (Original post by DErasmus)
    EU enforces democracy, ideas don't do anything, people do.
    In what way does the EU enforce democracy? If the French people elected a tyrant to run their country, there is nothing that the EU could or would do to stop it. The UK would probably invade and do something about it, but not the EU. And if you're talking about events outside of Europe, there is even less of a chance.
 
 
 
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