Original post by Katie_pBut if you're in halls, you live with so many other people, who will have different sleeping habits, that even if you stop your music from 3am-10am to sleep, someone else might start theirs at 2am and go on until 1pm when they decide to go to bed.
And I'm not sure how you can say "it doesn't affect me" and then claim that it "doesn't ruin sleep as much as some people claim". If you can provide scientific studies or whatever, fair enough, but by saying it doesn't affect you and recognising that other people make a complaint, do you not realise that it affects some people more strongly?
It depends on the volume and type of music as well, the sort of music you're likely to hear at 2am is club music with thumping bass, which is the worst sort of music for trying to sleep to.Clearly it does affect sleep, or people wouldn't complain.
Also, just because someone's sleep pattern happens to be 10pm-6am, why should they suffer when yours is 2am-10am, and therefore your music is playing for 4 hours of their "sleep" time?
From the poll, I meant loud "party" noise or music - shouting, whooping, drunk singing etc. You know how even "conversations" rise to a ridiculous volume after a couple of hours of drinking? Not just having a sober chat with your mate over a cup of hot chocolate or whatever.
Also if you consider that you're "supposed" to get 6-8 hours of sleep per night, and classes tend to start at 9am, which for most people will mean getting up at about 7am (yeah, you can get up at 8.50 if you live on campus and rock up to lectures but most people don't like to make a habit of that and would rather shower and eat first) then surely 11pm is reasonable midweek to allow people to get 8 hours sleep and get up at 7?
I think most people commenting have also said they'd be happy with it later on occassion, if that occassion isn't right before an exam/deadline, but as a general rule, there should be quiet from whatever time they stated. Why is 10pm (or, for the sake of the adequate sleep argument 11pm) such a bad thing to have as a general rule? If it's 12 or 1am or whatever "normally", that means the exceptional noise will be permitted later, and it means you could theoretically have a party every single night til that time.
Proximity to the nosie makes a huge difference, yeah. I would hate to have a bedroom next to the "common room" or kitchen or whatever, and I think that in allocating rooms in halls maybe the people responsible should try to prioritise "quiet" people and put them away from the hub? If you're involved in most of the parties, you won't care that they're next to your room, but if you're the person who rarely gets involved, it must really suck to be subjected to other people's noise all the time!
This is exactly the attitude that annoys me - the expectation that we (if you're a grumpy git like me) should go out of our way to accomodate noisy people. From what I've seen, we're willing to make compromises, and we don't do stuff that annoys the noisy people who we live with, but they expect us to just put up with their noise whenever they want to make it.
The most I did in halls that annoyed other people was spend a lot of time in the kitchen just sitting around - and I'd chat to people if they were there, and not moan if I was studying there and they made noise, I'd happily leave or join in instead - or leaving washing up for a few hours. I never caused noise on my own, or with one or two other flatmates, only when the entire group were involved. If I'd had really noisy flatmates, I wouldn't have had parties that might disrupt them, only they ones that disrupted me, and I don't think that's acceptable.
I just want to remind people in this thread that I'm trying to provoke debate and discussion, not start a personal argument! I know I'm pretty touchy about noise, and I wouldn't hold other people to my standards, but I'm amazed by how much further than my "compromise" limits some people would expect me to go if they lived with me!