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Original post by Copperknickers
Indeed. And dragged them kicking and screaming all the way to the studio no doubt. I'm sorry if I don't have much sympathy for multi million dollar earning actors who complain of tokenism.


Usually the bitparts who complain of tokenism
Original post by goldie56
Usually the bitparts who complain of tokenism


And yet if there were no tokenism, they wouldn't get a part at all. Tokenism is a wedge, it opens the door for the serious parts.
I thought orange was the new black? haaaa....
Original post by goldie56
I dunno about that lad. It's not AAs have huge control in the industry in Hollywood; there's much more leverage in the argument of Hollywood inclusion of AAs as tokenism tbh

Who let you off of tumblr? Do you pay much attention to film? There are big names in Hollywood that are black actors. Morgan freeman, Samuel l Jackson, Denzel washington, Jamie foxx, Halle berry, Laurence fishburne, chiwetel ejiofor, idris elba. I feel pretty sure that in terms of demographics in the US(I know the last two are British) that black people are pretty well represented in big roles. And how about Spike Lee as a director? These are just names off the top of my head.

Will smith, Eddie Murphy.
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Reply 84
Original post by arkhamz
"Black culture" in america is pretty, well, ****. I don't see why she thinks it's something worth protecting, also "muh privilege!"


:beard:Hmmmm...? Mind describing the "****" part, please, thanks. But 1st do you even know what black culture in America is anyway? :smile:
Reply 85
Oh yes... the all too dreaded conversation of black culture on a mostly non-black website that we so famously love to be apart of. This should be good :rolleyes:
Reply 86
Original post by alexs2602
Who let you off of tumblr? Do you pay much attention to film? There are big names in Hollywood that are black actors. Morgan freeman, Samuel l Jackson, Denzel washington, Jamie foxx, Halle berry, chiwetel ejiofor, idris elba. I feel pretty sure that in terms of demographics in the US(I know the last two are British) that black people are pretty well represented in big roles. And how about Spike Lee as a director? These are just names off the top of my head.


Aaare youuu...arguing that blacks do have control in Hollywood? Yes there are black actors but they in no way have any control or hold in Hollywood? Wow people go off impression soooo much :rofl: Tokenism? Do you know what that means? It means basically affirmative action: "let's throw a black person in so it doesn't look racist." Then those black people like Tyler Perry find a crawlspace to blaze their own trail. Note that the people you listed are all 20 yrs in probably at least, each of them, and then the two overrated black actors from UK. 20 yrs in and overrated alluding to :listen:: no new wave of rising black stars. :wink: With civil rights leaders having few orgs in media and politics overall, they prevent further disenfranchisement of blacks (NAACP, Black Caucus and just constitutional amendments in the US that overall protect rights :yep:).
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Original post by ApeMob
:beard:Hmmmm...? Mind describing the "****" part, please, thanks. But 1st do you even know what black culture in America is anyway? :smile:



I have a general idea, do educate me :rolleyes:
Reply 88
See? And alexs keeps naming random (old) black actors to prove his point that, "well...there are black actors so...there must not be any racism." Learn what "tokenism" means, first, before you think such silliness. :wink:
Reply 89
Original post by arkhamz
I have a general idea, do educate me :rolleyes:


No don't be sassy dude, you said it, I want to know if you even KNOW something you were so QUICK to INSULT. Let's see then...attitudinal deflection=....


you don't know :smile:
Original post by ApeMob
Aaare youuu...arguing that blacks do have control in Hollywood? Yes there are black actors but they in no way have any control or hold in Hollywood? Wow people go off impression soooo much :rofl: Tokenism? Do you know what that means? It means basically affirmative action: "let's throw a black person in so it doesn't look racist." Then those black people like Tyler Perry find a crawlspace to blaze their own trail. Note that the people you listed are all 20 yrs in probably at least, each of them, and then the two overrated black actors from UK. 20 yrs in and overrated alluding to :listen:: no new wave of rising black stars. :wink: With civil rights leaders having few orgs in media and politics overall, they prevent further disenfranchisement of blacks (NAACP, Black Caucus and just constitutional amendments in the US that overall protect rights :yep:).


Bahahahaha, you do realise that no one in their right mind respects Tyler perry? He doesn't make good movies. I find it hilarious you think he's a good example. The actors I named are generally quite good. 2 of them are around 40. That's not that old. And 2 in their mid 40s. And did you bother to read that I hadn't looked properly? You expect me to remember every actor?

Overrated? Do you want to talk overrated? Samuel l Jackson. He's overrated. Jesus Christ. He's typecast. Has some good movies but as of late he's played very similar characters which don't show him to have the same talent of much better actors. I'm pretty bored of him tbh. He's nowhere near as good as most people think he is. Idris Elba has a wider range than him. He's a much more convincing actor. What have you even seen him in? The wire? Luther? Pacific rim? Mandela?

What do you mean by control? That's a very vague term.
Reply 91
Original post by alexs2602
Bahahahaha, you do realise that no one in their right mind respects Tyler perry? He doesn't make good movies. I find it hilarious you think he's a good example. The actors I named are generally quite good. 2 of them are around 40. That's not that old. And 2 in their mid 40s. And did you bother to read that I hadn't looked properly? You expect me to remember every actor?

Overrated? Do you want to talk overrated? Samuel l Jackson. He's overrated. Jesus Christ. He's typecast. Has some good movies but as of late he's played very similar characters which don't show him to have the same talent of much better actors. I'm pretty bored of him tbh. He's nowhere near as good as most people think he is. Idris Elba has a wider range than him. He's a much more convincing actor. What have you even seen him in? The wire? Luther? Pacific rim? Mandela?

What do you mean by control? That's a very vague term.


Firstly, I didn't say old as in their age, I mentioned right after (I admittedly did edit a couple seconds after posting and you probably didn't see it) that I meant old as in their career, 20 yrs in the industry is OLD if you know ANYTHING about it, because coming in over 26 is rather old to them, they feel it won't appeal. So they keep giving the same black actors roles instead of bringing new talent, that would be tokenism or affirmative action. And you keep mentioning the same people over and over, I said OVERRATED to support the FACT that TOKENISM (learn it) blocks NEW talent from coming in unless they play a slave for 15 minutes. And I mentioned Tyler Perry because he is actually richer than great white actors though he is as bad as you claim so get over it :smile: He blazed his own trail was my point. :wink: Anything else you wrote is irrelevant so I can't really dig up anything to say to respond to it :s-smilie: But if you're not black I take it you're disgruntled and are fazed by the very few and redundant black actors you can name.
Original post by ApeMob
Firstly, I didn't say old as in their age, I mentioned right after (I admittedly did edit a couple seconds after posting and you probably didn't see it) that I meant old as in their career, 20 yrs in the industry is OLD if you know ANYTHING about it, because coming in over 26 is rather old to them, they feel it won't appeal. So they keep giving the same black actors roles instead of bringing new talent, that would be tokenism or affirmative action. And you keep mentioning the same people over and over, I said OVERRATED to support the FACT that TOKENISM (learn it) blocks NEW talent from coming in unless they play a slave for 15 minutes. And I mentioned Tyler Perry because he is actually richer than great white actors though he is as bad as you claim so get over it :smile: He blazed his own trail was my point. :wink: Anything else you wrote is irrelevant so I can't really dig up anything to say to respond to it :s-smilie: But if you're not black I take it you're disgruntled and are fazed by the very few and redundant black actors you can name.


You don't know much about actors. Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
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Original post by alexs2602
You don't know much about actors. Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.


You just got owned and are resorting to insults. Love it :ahee: I was done with you anyhow :mmm:
Original post by septimius
Ok. so was this article written by somebody who hates whites because they pick on him and saying "ha! **** you, you have OUR culture!"

Afro-Americans speak English and follow the Constitution. Unless the English language and constitutional law came from the Gambia or Cameroon like their ancestors did, then whose culture are they following?


Well...i'm on your side of the arguement, but...they didn't exactly have a choice. They were forced into America through slavery, so they had to adapt and that included lgetting English and following the Constitution
Original post by brownbearxo
According to you.


Well, yes - is that your argument?

According to whom, do black people have a right to use the n-word? Please don't say "black people".

No single group of people has a wider-reaching right to free speech than others. Either no-one can say it, or everyone can say it. To believe anything else is racist. Here's one example of a federal jury ruling that using it in the workplace is illegal, regardless of race:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2409824/Federal-jury-rules-illegal-use-N-word-work-youre-black.html*

Seems like you need to check your "black privilege". :teehee:

*If you're going to make a disparaging comment on the source, save it for another of the "Daily Fail, ho-ho-ho" circle-jerk threads.
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Original post by Mick.w
no.

black women are the most supported by the white benefit system.
no matter how irresponsible a black women is. no matter how low her income is, no matter if she is unemployed or cannot care for the children she already has, she is still able to have more children and have the government pay for it.

first thing though is a black man has to pay for it. and if he cannot? he goes to jail.

the black women is never punished for not being able to afford having children. but a black man who has children he cannot afford is thrown in prison.

black women use the police to discipline their black partners by repeatedly calling the police on them and trying to use violence.

black women are never held responsible for their actions in the way black men are.

the American economy is able to compete with sweatshop labor in Mexico due to the amount of black men in their prisons. women make up nothing of the prison population. thats just women full stop yet alone black women.

whens the last time you heard of a black innocent women being shot?

yes black women are oppressed. but no where near as much as black men.

the white system uses black women as an operational device to snare more black men into the ranks of forced labor in prison.


Are you a black man?
Also, this is just in the UK and US where ALL WOMAN benefit from what you just mentioned. If you think bout where the majority of black women live such as Africa, Caribbean.... the black men are more privileged.

As a man you are privaleged for being a male. Women have it harder, therefore black women are at the bottom of the pile in society overall... as the media, news etc remind us daily
Original post by alexs2602
Who let you off of tumblr? Do you pay much attention to film? There are big names in Hollywood that are black actors. Morgan freeman, Samuel l Jackson, Denzel washington, Jamie foxx, Halle berry, Laurence fishburne, chiwetel ejiofor, idris elba. I feel pretty sure that in terms of demographics in the US(I know the last two are British) that black people are pretty well represented in big roles. And how about Spike Lee as a director? These are just names off the top of my head.

Will smith, Eddie Murphy.


What films do you see advertised heavily here in the UK that are directed by Lee?

Only Foxx and Ejiofor were leads in well known films in the past two years and those had be played by them because they're films about American slavery - The Call and Long Walk to Freedom weren't big.

Samuel L Jackson hasn't played a big lead since Snakes on a Plane, but I wouldn't say his role in Avengers movies and the like is tokensim; neither would I say it's a lead however.

Pacific Rim, Lucy, Olympus has Fallen, White House Down, Contagion and Prometheus feature the names you mentioned but none of them are leads.

I guess superhero movies are meant to have white leads because they're character-based but you had a big stink over Heimdall being played by Elba because he's black - same with him possibly playing Bond - and Heimdall's not even a lead.

The last good film where Eddie Murphy were a lead was Dr Doolittle for eff's sake.

Fact is you can trust Will Smith to be the only black lead in big films - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Smith_filmography#Box_office_grosses
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But even he can't get into a film about Ancient Egypt - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus:_Gods_and_Kings#Race_in_casting

And why would I leave Tumblr lad? I'd have to search for porn then
Sensing all the arguments about to happen

If black people don't want their culture "stolen" don't steal white culture. Like a "fair" democratic system or civilization or the benefits system.

If the white people are not allowed to be part of the black culture then why should black people allowed be part of white culture?

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