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West Point vs RMA Sandhurst

usa1981

15

How do they compare?
I know that the Sandhurst course one year (11 months). It was three terms.

Reply 1

ChrisF

10

They dont, there two very different military academies. A select few Americans go to West Point and train as an officer and get a degree. Whilst with Sandhurst every potential Army officer goes through the commisioning course and they do it post-education (grad or non-grad).

Reply 2

Earlham

1

Seriously. Not a US citizen = you can't go to West Point. I wouldn't be surprised if you had to be a UK or Commonwealth citizen to go to Sandhurst.

West Point is a four year undergraduate insitution, where you also happen to train for the Army. It's completely different. Why's everyone so interested all of a sudden?

Reply 3

Gouryella

Earlham

Seriously. Not a US citizen = you can't go to West Point. I wouldn't be surprised if you had to be a UK or Commonwealth citizen to go to Sandhurst.

West Point is a four year undergraduate insitution, where you also happen to train for the Army. It's completely different. Why's everyone so interested all of a sudden?

The OP is infamous for asking bone questions about the military. Smile and nod :biggrin:

Reply 4

Champagne Breakfast

16

Sandhurst is clearly a superior institution. If you want a rigorous military training at the best academy in the world and from the most professional army in the world, go to Sandhurst. If you want some wishy washy crap which will leave you breaking down on the battlefield and suffering mental trauma later on in life, attend West Point. The choice is yours.

Reply 5

Who?

1

The Ace is Back, your comments are always "useful".

Reply 6

Champagne Breakfast

16

Thanks, Harrow boy. Your comments are always 'welcome'.

Reply 7

Earlham

1

*flees from the testosterone in the air*

Reply 8

Champagne Breakfast

16

Haha don't worry it's only a bit of friendly 'inter-school' banter. Inferiority complex and all that :wink:

Reply 9

dsch

13

I think the evidence is in the armies themselves; the British Army is the best in the world and the American Army is comparable to a bunch of drunken sports fans with weapons and titles. No wonder they never win wars overseas these days and when they did, they amde films about them completely overlooking the underground French movement and the role of the British army. Maybe it's because they think they really are Europe's saviours beause of what Americans did when they were brave and have forgotten how to fight. I don't know. I know Sandhurst is the training an Officer needs and Westpoint is probably superfluous and pseudo-elitist crap.

Reply 10

Knogle

16

Earlham

Seriously. Not a US citizen = you can't go to West Point. I wouldn't be surprised if you had to be a UK or Commonwealth citizen to go to Sandhurst?

Untrue.

Reply 11

Knogle

16

For the record, AFAIK Sandhurst isn't an academy per se. You don't graduate with a degree, unlike West Point.

Reply 12

usa1981

OP

15

How does the military training compare at both places?

Reply 13

Knogle

16

Meh, you'd need someone who has attended both institutions to make a valid comparison... and chances are you're not going to find one. :p:

Reply 14

Howard

5

usa1981

How does the military training compare at both places?

I think you could draw some conclusions by looking at the quality of British officers and then compare them to the muppets that pass themselves off as officers in the US Army.

Reply 15

Alexander

12

Knogle

For the record, AFAIK Sandhurst isn't an academy per se. You don't graduate with a degree, unlike West Point.

Since when has an institution had to issue degrees in order to be allowed to call itself an academy?

As has been said, the two institutions are completely different in the way they operate. It'd probably be best if people stopped the rabid American-bashing, I find it a tad embarrassing considering that there are Americans about on these forums (by all means criticise if you have just and well-informed criticisms, but don't rave).

Reply 16

Schleigg

18

I'd be more inclined to compare West Point to Welbeck or Shrivenham to be honest. I agree the WP is more a University/ College accompanied with Military training whereas Sandhurst is dedicated to the latter. The fact that Armies from the whole commonwealth want to send their Cadets to be trained at RMAS even with the fierce competition from home growns would seem to suggest that RMAS is an extremely elite institution, compared with WP which to me sounds like going to British University X and attending the local OTC :P

Just my thoughts

:tsr2:

Reply 17

Stavross

I had the joy of looking after some Westpointers on a Gunner's course in Larkhill, this was a module for their course, they were in their 3rd year, quite frankly they were like drones, you can get most people with some whaaaaaaaaaaaas but these two took the biscuit, I asked the girl to go and get me the breech monkey so we could clean the breech, she actually thought we were going to put a live monkey up the breech!

Reply 18

white_rabbit

While I don't have much respect for those in my military, I can promise you that WP is the real deal. I have a friend going there right now and she spent her last 4 years preparing, trying to get in perfect shape, and finding a referal from a congressman. Which is required to apply. Also, while I would never think of going into the military, WP offers a top notch education, especially in the sciences. Aerospace and physics programs are among the best in the nation.

Reply 19

tele-skier

1

Having commissioned form Sandhurst and seen and worked with many West Pointers on exercise and on Operations, in my opinion, both places produce very high quality officers. The Yanks were more gung ho whilst at West Point, but calmed down post academy!

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