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Trouble Waking Up

Now many of you may simply dismiss this as being a minor issue, or that i'm just being lazy.

but i seriously can't ever wake up before mid-day.

i CAN wake up if i have some vital appointment, such as having to work at say 8am.

but when it comes to a normal day without work, no matter what time i set my alarm, and how intent i am on waking up early...i just can't do it.

the problem is, this affects most of my day, and at uni, it means i miss lectures.

has anyone else had similar? and can anyone recommend anything to help.

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Reply 1
i am exactly the same!
Reply 2
sparkler
i am exactly the same!


its just when my alarm does go off, i immediately turn it off (whilst half asleep) and then go to sleep until 12.

whilst now, im perfectly awake and not ready for bed.

my sleep pattern is so messed up!

people say "its because its summer, you have nothing worthwhile to do" but i disagree, even when i have worthwhile things (such as uni lectures in term time) i simply can't wake up.
Reply 3
Set two alarms, with about five minutes in between. Snooze doesn't generally work since you'll just switch off the alarm properly, I expect.

A mobile phone works well, since it's usually very fiddly to disable the alarm on those things.
Reply 4
My alarm is unreachable from my bed, so I really have to wake up enough clamber out of bed to switch it off which is usually just enough to keep me up. :wink: Otherwise I do exactly what you do.
Reply 5
two good suggestions, thanks

i just wish i was a "morning person" like being awake now is so dull, theres nothing on TV, nobody on msn etc...id rather be awake at 9am like the rest of the country!
Reply 6
i'd swear that i was the OP of this thread!

i set my alarm for, say, 9.30 but then i have it on snooze for the next 3 hours and it doesn't wake me up - i just keep re-snoozing it every 4 minutes in my sleep...

and i am not tired at all right now, i could easily stay up til 4 or 5am..

it sucks!
sparkler
i'd swear that i was the OP of this thread!

i set my alarm for, say, 9.30 but then i have it on snooze for the next 3 hours and it doesn't wake me up - i just keep re-snoozing it every 4 minutes in my sleep...

and i am not tired at all right now, i could easily stay up til 4 or 5am..

it sucks!



uni halls did this to me! i could never sleep before 2am due to all the noise and the nights out. Its hard to sleep before midnights when everyone upstairs and nextdoor is banging about..so i just thought if you cant beat them join them.

i am the OP by the way, dunno why i was posting as anon really!

before (when at school and 6th form) id have to be up early, so got into a routine. Uni's just wrecked my sleep patterns.

i am the OP by the way, dunno why i was posting as anon, had no reason to
Yep, but I sleep at odd times anyway so mine is probebly a consequence of my lifestyle. I did read a book recently called counting sheep: the science and pleasures of sleep and dreams by paul martin. Its not a self help book but I just thought that you may find it interesting as it explains a lot about the sleep problems associated with modern day life. It also has a thing where you can work out how much sleep you should be getting a day which you may find useful. Other than that, I suppose you could see a specialist if it gets too bad but I know that may be a bit weird for you, well it would be for me as I dont like shrinks but hey you never know. Yea thats about it, good luck
Reply 9
I was in a similar situation for much of this summer holiday whereby I would go to sleep around 5-7amish every day and then wake up about 10 - 12 hours later. In the end the only way to get out of that was to stay awake for two days, then go to sleep around 8pm, which got me back into a normal schedule, although I do have to ensure I go to sleep before about 1am otherwise I'll easily screw it up again. :rolleyes:
Dystopia
I was in a similar situation for much of this summer holiday whereby I would go to sleep around 5-7amish every day and then wake up about 10 - 12 hours later. In the end the only way to get out of that was to stay awake for two days, then go to sleep around 8pm, which got me back into a normal schedule, although I do have to ensure I go to sleep before about 1am otherwise I'll easily screw it up again. :rolleyes:



i tried that, and it worked for a while...

but then i went out, and was up all night..which wrecked everything:mad:
Reply 11
Well one reason you can't wake up is because you're not motivated enough to. If there's no reason to wake up, why bother? I'm exactly the same as you and I'm sure many people are, it doesn't matter how many alarms you set, you'll just keep turning them off and say 'i'll wake up early tomorrow'...

The only way to get round it is either motivate yourself somehow (pretty much impossible) or arrange something every morning at 9am for example eg: order something special delivery so the postman wakes you up and you have to sign for it everyday :wink: . Or of course just get your mum to scream at you till you get up.

It would also help to sort out your sleeping pattern, ie force yourself to bed at 12-1am and then more importantly FORCE yourself to wake up at 9am. It's tough
Dystopia
My alarm is unreachable from my bed, so I really have to wake up enough clamber out of bed to switch it off which is usually just enough to keep me up. :wink: Otherwise I do exactly what you do.


That's good.

I was once told something similar. For example put your mobile, or alarm clock at the other end of the room. And then when it goes off you will have to get out of bed to switch it off, obviously you can go back to bed after turning it off - but you are out of bed which is where you need to be. :biggrin:
Anonymous
Now many of you may simply dismiss this as being a minor issue, or that i'm just being lazy.

but i seriously can't ever wake up before mid-day.

i CAN wake up if i have some vital appointment, such as having to work at say 8am.

but when it comes to a normal day without work, no matter what time i set my alarm, and how intent i am on waking up early...i just can't do it.

the problem is, this affects most of my day, and at uni, it means i miss lectures.

has anyone else had similar? and can anyone recommend anything to help.

First, let's consider the way most people tackle this problem - what I consider the wrong way: to try using your conscious willpower to get yourself out of bed each morning. That might work every once in a while, but let's face it - you'll award yourself an extension, even if you simply have to get up! Some people who do this conclude that they simply need more discipline. And that's actually somewhat true, but not in the way you'd expect. If you want to get up at 7am, then you don't need more discipline at 7am, you don't need better self-talk, you don't need two or three alarm clocks scattered around the room and you don't need an advanced alarm that includes technology from NASA's labs. You actually need the discipline to accept that you're not going to make the right call at 7am. :wink:





The real solution is to delegate the problem, turn the whole thing over to your subconscious mind and cut your conscious mind out of the loop. So - and this is going to sound really stupid, but works like magic - as soon as your alarm goes off, practice getting up. That's right - practice! :deal: But don't do it in the morning; do it during the day when you're wide awake.

1 - Go to your bedroom and set the room conditions to match your desired wake-up time as best as you can:
- Darken the room (or practice in the evening just after sunset so it's already dark).
- If you brush your teeth before bed, then brush your teeth.
- If you take off your glasses or contacts when you sleep, then take those off too.
- If you sleep in pyjamas, put on your pyjamas; if you sleep in ballgowns, get your gladrags on, and; if you sleep commando, say hellooo to your birthday suit.

2 - Set your alarm for a few minutes ahead. Lie down in bed just like you would if you were sleeping, and close your eyes. :yawn: Get into your favourite sleep position. Imagine it's early in the morning and pretend you're actually asleep. Visualize a dream location, or just zone out as best you can.

3 - When your alarm goes off, turn it off as fast as you can. Then take a deep, deep breath and stretch your limbs out in all directions for a couple seconds... like you're stretching during a yawn. Then sit up, plant your feet on the floor, and stand up. Smile a big smile - then do whatever you do after getting up!

4 - Now the fun bit! Shake yourself off, restore the pre-waking conditions, return to bed, reset your alarm, and repeat until it becomes so automatic that you run through the whole ritual without thinking about it. ;dumbells; Think of it like doing sets and reps at the gym. Do one or two sets per day at different times, with 3-10 reps each set. The more you practice your wake-up ritual, the deeper you'll ingrain this habit into your subconscious: alarm goes off > get up immediately; alarm goes off > get up immediately; alarm goes off > get up immediately.





Beating yourself up about your bad wake-up habits will not work - in fact, you'll just condition these mental beatings as part of the very routine you're trying to change. Duh! So not only will you not get up when your alarm goes off, but you'll also automatically beat yourself up about it. How lame is that? It'll make you post anonymous threads in H&R about feeling like crap because you're not getting up!

Think about it - if you oversleep just 30 minutes a day, that's 180+ hours a year. And if you're at 60 minutes a day, that's 365 hours a year, the equivalent of nine 40-hour weeks! :eek: Now I don't know about you, but I can think of more creative things to do with that time than sleeping longer than I need to... :lovie:
^^ woah, might just try that, you can have rep when i can rep next
Rooftopcowboy
^^ woah, might just try that, you can have rep when i can rep next


Damn, here was me thinking it was my post you were talking about but then noticed another one in between. :frown: :p:
Reply 16
Try drinking a big glass of water on waking up. I heard somewhere that morning sleepiness is actually dehydration.

Of course, if you're really the Godfather, couldn't you just get one of your minions to shoot out the windows or something? Who needs an alarm clock?
Ron Stoppable
First, let's consider the way most people tackle this problem - what I consider the wrong way: to try using your conscious willpower to get yourself out of bed each morning. That might work every once in a while, but let's face it - you'll award yourself an extension, even if you simply have to get up! Some people who do this conclude that they simply need more discipline. And that's actually somewhat true, but not in the way you'd expect. If you want to get up at 7am, then you don't need more discipline at 7am, you don't need better self-talk, you don't need two or three alarm clocks scattered around the room and you don't need an advanced alarm that includes technology from NASA's labs. You actually need the discipline to accept that you're not going to make the right call at 7am. :wink:





The real solution is to delegate the problem, turn the whole thing over to your subconscious mind and cut your conscious mind out of the loop. So - and this is going to sound really stupid, but works like magic - as soon as your alarm goes off, practice getting up. That's right - practice! :deal: But don't do it in the morning; do it during the day when you're wide awake.

1 - Go to your bedroom and set the room conditions to match your desired wake-up time as best as you can:
- Darken the room (or practice in the evening just after sunset so it's already dark).
- If you brush your teeth before bed, then brush your teeth.
- If you take off your glasses or contacts when you sleep, then take those off too.
- If you sleep in pyjamas, put on your pyjamas; if you sleep in ballgowns, get your gladrags on, and; if you sleep commando, say hellooo to your birthday suit.

2 - Set your alarm for a few minutes ahead. Lie down in bed just like you would if you were sleeping, and close your eyes. :yawn: Get into your favourite sleep position. Imagine it's early in the morning and pretend you're actually asleep. Visualize a dream location, or just zone out as best you can.

3 - When your alarm goes off, turn it off as fast as you can. Then take a deep, deep breath and stretch your limbs out in all directions for a couple seconds... like you're stretching during a yawn. Then sit up, plant your feet on the floor, and stand up. Smile a big smile - then do whatever you do after getting up!

4 - Now the fun bit! Shake yourself off, restore the pre-waking conditions, return to bed, reset your alarm, and repeat until it becomes so automatic that you run through the whole ritual without thinking about it. ;dumbells; Think of it like doing sets and reps at the gym. Do one or two sets per day at different times, with 3-10 reps each set. The more you practice your wake-up ritual, the deeper you'll ingrain this habit into your subconscious: alarm goes off > get up immediately; alarm goes off > get up immediately; alarm goes off > get up immediately.





Beating yourself up about your bad wake-up habits will not work - in fact, you'll just condition these mental beatings as part of the very routine you're trying to change. Duh! So not only will you not get up when your alarm goes off, but you'll also automatically beat yourself up about it. How lame is that? It'll make you post anonymous threads in H&R about feeling like crap because you're not getting up!

Think about it - if you oversleep just 30 minutes a day, that's 180+ hours a year. And if you're at 60 minutes a day, that's 365 hours a year, the equivalent of nine 40-hour weeks! :eek: Now I don't know about you, but I can think of more creative things to do with that time than sleeping longer than I need to... :lovie:

Also the best advice I've heard. Why didn't you post this in my thread? :mad: :p:

OP: I'm exactly the same, except I normally can't get up till 4-5pm. (Don't ask why I'm up now. :confused:)
Reply 18
:biggrin: i set my phone alarm to wake me up (beenie man!) but afterwards i have my calender alarm set at every 2 minutes for like 10mins and then at every 5 mins for 15mins! you TRY sleeping through that racket hehe :redface: its quite bad actually... good luck to whoevers sharing a room with me at uni :redface:
Junkie
:biggrin: i set my phone alarm to wake me up (beenie man!) but afterwards i have my calender alarm set at every 2 minutes for like 10mins and then at every 5 mins for 15mins! you TRY sleeping through that racket hehe :redface: its quite bad actually... good luck to whoevers sharing a room with me at uni :redface:

Can't do that on my phone... tried. :frown: