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The Liverpool FC Thread XII

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Original post by Zürich
Swear it was Luke on here adamant that Lambert was better than Giroud in July?

We shall see. Oli looked pretty good and fresh as a daisy vs Newcastle last week, trust he fancies his chances vs the famous Liverpool back 4 :tongue:

Lol at anybody saying that when Giroud offers 20 goals a season when fit. Lambert you'll be lucky to get 10 without penalties.
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Ugh Balotelli..
Original post by Zerforax
Ugh Balotelli..


Just why would you sign him...:lol: you knew what you were getting
Original post by jam277
Lol at anybody saying that when Giroud offers 20 goals a season when fit. Lambert you'll be lucky to get 10 without penalties.
Wasn't it Sev... who had the 30 goals for Giroud in his sig this season?

I think Lambert and Balotelli as signings go to show how inept Rodgers actually is, they are entirely different strikers to Sturridge, you've pretty much got to change the way the team plays when you change the striker. Someone like Remy or even Welbeck would have been a better option.
Original post by Fizzel
Wasn't it Sev... who had the 30 goals for Giroud in his sig this season?

I think Lambert and Balotelli as signings go to show how inept Rodgers actually is, they are entirely different strikers to Sturridge, you've pretty much got to change the way the team plays when you change the striker. Someone like Remy or even Welbeck would have been a better option.


Completely fit all season, 30 goals all comps was achievable imo. It's only really now people are starting to see his value tbh. He's a great attacking alternative. He creates a nice Salt n Pepper combo with Alexis or Welbz
Original post by sevchenko
Completely fit all season, 30 goals all comps was achievable imo. It's only really now people are starting to see his value tbh. He's a great attacking alternative. He creates a nice Salt n Pepper combo with Alexis or Welbz
I assumed you meant league, all comps is pretty random because you have no idea how many games you are going to play.
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Original post by Fizzel
Wasn't it Sev... who had the 30 goals for Giroud in his sig this season?

I think Lambert and Balotelli as signings go to show how inept Rodgers actually is, they are entirely different strikers to Sturridge, you've pretty much got to change the way the team plays when you change the striker. Someone like Remy or even Welbeck would have been a better option.


Well tbf they went for Remy but didn't want to take the risk with his medical problem as they already have one injury prone striker, and they were never getting Welbeck.
Original post by Fideo
Well tbf they went for Remy but didn't want to take the risk with his medical problem as they already have one injury prone striker, and they were never getting Welbeck.


Yh but there should of been another target that would fit us, Balotelli was a major panic buy. Lambert was only £4m and always going to be a backup plan and 3rd/4th choice striker so fair enough on him but not finding a suitable alternative was criminal.
Original post by Fizzel
I assumed you meant league, all comps is pretty random because you have no idea how many games you are going to play.


30 goals is the league is way too far fetched. At the start of the season I did think Arsenal would start strong improving our attacking play which leads to more goals plus be within 6 points of the leaders and still be in the league cup.
Original post by Fideo
Well tbf they went for Remy but didn't want to take the risk with his medical problem as they already have one injury prone striker, and they were never getting Welbeck.
Perhaps with Welbeck. I don't really buy the Remy story tbh. He's managed to pass medicals at other clubs, Chelsea who are very financially astute due to FFP, and £10.5m that's nothing in terms of the money Rodgers has spunked over the last few years. If he was Falcao money then maybe.
Original post by Fizzel
Perhaps with Welbeck. I don't really buy the Remy story tbh. He's managed to pass medicals at other clubs, Chelsea who are very financially astute due to FFP, and £10.5m that's nothing in terms of the money Rodgers has spunked over the last few years. If he was Falcao money then maybe.


Well why would they have a medical and then decide to pull out? They obviously found something during the medical and decide they didn't want to take the risk. There's a reason why Arsenal didn't go for him either.
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Original post by samir12
Well why would they have a medical and then decide to pull out? They obviously found something during the medical and decide they didn't want to take the risk. There's a reason why Arsenal didn't go for him either.


Chelsea also didn't buy him to be first choice, they brought him in as back up. So they may have been more prepared to take the risk as they knew he was never going to be a regular starter for them.
Original post by Fizzel
Perhaps with Welbeck. I don't really buy the Remy story tbh. He's managed to pass medicals at other clubs, Chelsea who are very financially astute due to FFP, and £10.5m that's nothing in terms of the money Rodgers has spunked over the last few years. If he was Falcao money then maybe.


What happen wrt the Remy deal is that Brendan got wind that Balo could be available so he pulled the plug. Brendan though he could "fix" Balo just like he "fixed" Suarez. A couple of month down the line Liverpool are enduring their worst start for 50 years and he hasn't scored any goals or assisted in 730 consecutive minutes in the league.
Original post by sevchenko
What happen wrt the Remy deal is that Brendan got wind that Balo could be available so he pulled the plug. Brendan though he could "fix" Balo just like he "fixed" Suarez. A couple of month down the line Liverpool are enduring their worst start for 50 years and he hasn't scored any goals or assisted in 730 consecutive minutes in the league.


Source? Or is that a made up story to just criticise Rodgers?
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Original post by samir12
Well why would they have a medical and then decide to pull out? They obviously found something during the medical and decide they didn't want to take the risk. There's a reason why Arsenal didn't go for him either.


Doubt there's a medical problem tbh, Harry came out a few days later saying there's never been a problem.

"He had a stringent medical here, one at Newcastle, one with the French team before the World Cup. He's never had a problem with his fitness - you couldn't meet a fitter lad."

Remy has never been good enough ability wise to play for Arsenal. Don't you think Wenger was aware of him during his Remy's youth career at Lyon, France Youth NT and then since afterwards when everybody was calling Remy the next Thierry Henry? If Wenger wanted him he'd at Arsenal he could have taken him at any time
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Original post by sevchenko
Doubt there's a medical problem tbh, Harry came out a few days later saying there's never been a problem.

"He had a stringent medical here, one at Newcastle, one with the French team before the World Cup. He's never had a problem with his fitness - you couldn't meet a fitter lad.

Remy has never been good enough ability wise to play for Arsenal. Don't you think Wenger was aware of him during his Remy's youth career at Lyon, France Youth NT and then since afterwards when everybody was calling Remy the next Thierry Henry? If Wenger wanted him he'd at Arsenal he could have taken him at any time


It wasn't about fitness or injury concerns though, it was more to do with his heart which was why Liverpool didn't want to take a risk on it. He had problems with the medical when he transferred from Nice to Marseille due to his heart. Not every club has the same medical requirements, some are more strict than others.
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Original post by samir12
Well why would they have a medical and then decide to pull out? They obviously found something during the medical and decide they didn't want to take the risk. There's a reason why Arsenal didn't go for him either.

Its well know he's got a heart defect. The question being how has he managed to pass multiple medicals if its such a big issue, plenty of people have benign defects. I wasn't aware he had a medical at Arsenal, I knew they pulled out of the deal but I don't it got to that stage.
Original post by samir12
Source? Or is that a made up story to just criticise Rodgers?


Original post by samir12
It wasn't about fitness or injury concerns though, it was more to do with his heart which was why Liverpool didn't want to take a risk on it. He had problems with the medical when he transferred from Nice to Marseille due to his heart. Not every club has the same medical requirements, some are more strict than others.

There no source but it has been mentioned here and there. I think it the most logical situation too

Balo at £16M was probably is seen as a low risk signing by the transfer committee like many LFC supporters said after you signed him. He was a young potentially world class marquee bargain that would have helped fill the void that Suarez left. And like I said Rogers probably thought he could genuinely get Balo playing regular consistent football based on the work he did with Suarez.

Original post by samir12
It wasn't about fitness or injury concerns though, it was more to do with his heart which was why Liverpool didn't want to take a risk on it. He had problems with the medical when he transferred from Nice to Marseille due to his heart. Not every club has the same medical requirements, some are more strict than others.


Liverpool never gave any explanation as to why the medical failed although Remy did have this to say

"I came for the medical tests and everything was fine and after that they wanted to be sure everything was fine with my heart. They asked for a specialist for the heart and apparently the guy said they did not 100 per cent agree if I could keep going or had to stop football.

"I didn't understand because they knew before I came. I just told my agent if it is not happening it is because it is not for me.

"There are a lot of players with the same case as me. I don't know why the people think it is a big thing that can stop me playing football. I was more confused by Liverpool saying that I had medical problem because it is not fair. I have seen the best specialist in London and he has told me I can still play so it was not good from them.

"Even if they don't want to sign me, okay, but they don't have to put that in the newspapers because, then, all the other clubs after are afraid."

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11089200/Chelsea-striker-Loic-Remy-accuses-Premier-League-rivals-Liverpool-of-being-dishonest-over-failed-medical.html
Original post by sevchenko
There no source but it has been mentioned here and there. I think it the most logical situation too

Balo at £16M was probably is seen as a low risk signing by the transfer committee like many LFC supporters said after you signed him. He was a young potentially world class marquee bargain that would have helped fill the void that Suarez left. And like I said Rogers probably thought he could genuinely get Balo playing regular consistent football based on the work he did with Suarez.



Liverpool never gave any explanation as to why the medical failed although Remy did have this to say

"I came for the medical tests and everything was fine and after that they wanted to be sure everything was fine with my heart. They asked for a specialist for the heart and apparently the guy said they did not 100 per cent agree if I could keep going or had to stop football.

"I didn't understand because they knew before I came. I just told my agent if it is not happening it is because it is not for me.

"There are a lot of players with the same case as me. I don't know why the people think it is a big thing that can stop me playing football. I was more confused by Liverpool saying that I had medical problem because it is not fair. I have seen the best specialist in London and he has told me I can still play so it was not good from them.

"Even if they don't want to sign me, okay, but they don't have to put that in the newspapers because, then, all the other clubs after are afraid."

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11089200/Chelsea-striker-Loic-Remy-accuses-Premier-League-rivals-Liverpool-of-being-dishonest-over-failed-medical.html


Why did Rodgers come out and say he was not going to sign Balotelli beforehand than? If he really wanted him, why did he throw him under the bus with all the "he was a risk signing" comments and why didn't he pursue him earlier in the window?

Was it him or the transfer commitee that wanted the move? What Remy said just basically confrmed that they pulled out because of what Liverpools heart specialist said.
Original post by samir12
Why did Rodgers come out and say he was not going to sign Balotelli beforehand than? If he really wanted him, why did he throw him under the bus with all the "he was a risk signing" comments and why didn't he pursue him earlier in the window?

Was it him or the transfer commitee that wanted the move? What Remy said just basically confrmed that they pulled out because of what Liverpools heart specialist said.


Balo probably wasn't available earlier in the window because Milan wanted to recoup the money they spent on him. Raiola (Balo's agent) was drumming up interest all summer. In the end Inzaghi and Berlusconi decided to cut their losses and just get rid.

It seems to me they just used Remy's heart condition as a reason to cancel the deal. If Rogers really wanted him he would have overlooked the condition tbh his condition hasn't really affected Remy at all. A deal for Balo appeared so Rogers went for the better option

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