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What are your views of studying dentistry in Romania if you didn't get the grades to study here. Also with that new VT rule that prioritises uk students do you think that would be a major issue?
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What are your views of studying dentistry in Romania if you didn't get the grades to study here. Also with that new VT rule that prioritises uk students do you think that would be a major issue?
Romania isn't great, obviously. Most eastern european trained dentists end up working in the few corporate chains.

With the new VT rule, yes, it will be a huge issue.
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Romania isn't great, obviously. Most eastern european trained dentists end up working in the few corporate chains.

With the new VT rule, yes, it will be a huge issue.
Do you know if the 6 years abroad includes the vt year.
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Do you know if the 6 years abroad includes the vt year.
Not for UK. VT is different to the 'VT' you get abroad.
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Not for UK. VT is different to the 'VT' you get abroad.
Oh right are you a dentist?
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You can't beat the UK universities, I reckon it would be duff.
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You can't beat the UK universities, I reckon it would be duff.
Hi, Im applying this year and what type of schools do you recommend? A lot of the dentists/young dentists i've spoken to recommended going to the schools which give you the most clinical experience, although, a lot of them also said it really doesn't matter where you go as long as you have a good attitude.
I've also heard bad things about Manchester...
I was thinking KCL, Plymouth, sheffield and barts I think.

What are your thoughts and does it make a difference for job prospects?
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Makes no odds. All the dental schools in the UK are pretty good. Just get into any one of them will suffice!
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Makes no odds. All the dental schools in the UK are pretty good. Just get into any one of them will suffice!
Don't have the grades for uk unis and they don't accept resit students
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Don't have the grades for uk unis and they don't accept resit students
Think he was replying to me...
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Think he was replying to me...
Oh right lol
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I study in an Eastern European country which is in the EU, just like Romania. I think that the new VT rule doesn't change anything because dentists are finding jobs everywhere - you just need to have a goal and keep on track. You shouldn't let a change in the VT system hinder your aim of becoming a dentist. Realise that the Dental Foundation change (old term is VT) is so that those graduating in the UK can actually move forward - all UK dental graduates MUST complete VT training before they can work in the NHS whereas someone who graduates non-UK doesn't.
http://www.gdc-uk.org/Dentalprofessi...tist-Page.aspx
http://www.gdc-uk.org/Dentalprofessi...-to-apply.aspx
http://www.gdc-uk.org/Dentalprofessi...t-persons.aspx
http://www.copdend.org/content.aspx?...ning%20success
http://www.lpmde.ac.uk/recruitment/f...interviews.pdf
http://www.lpmde.ac.uk/recruitment/d...ng-recruitment
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...ob-in-NHS.html
http://www.rcseng.ac.uk/fds/nacpde/eea-qualified
http://www.gdc-uk.org/Pages/default.aspx

From this website: http://www.rcseng.ac.uk/fds/nacpde/eea-qualified
Dentists from Bulgaria and Romania

If you need to know whether your dental diploma allows you to work in the UK, you should contact the General Dental Council (GDC) by visiting their website.

For automatic recognition, your training must be compliant with minimum training requirements as laid down in EU Directive 78/687/EEC.
If your dental diploma does not meet the minimum training requirements of 78/687/EEC, you may come under the acquired rights directive 78/686/EEC or Article 23 (1) of directive 2005/36/EC. For this you would need a certificate stating that you have practiced dentistry in an EU state for at least 3 years during the 5 years preceding the certificate.
Medical diplomas from Romania awarded following training which began before 1 October 2003 - you will need your diploma and in addition you will need a certificate attesting that the holder has lawfully practiced dentistry in Romania for at least 3 years during the 5 years preceding the issuing of the certificate. Alternatively the holder has successfully finished 3 years of study equivalent to training described in Article 1 of the directive 78/687/EEC.
If none of the above applies, you will need an individual assessment by the GDC.


http://www.rcseng.ac.uk/fds/nacpde/e...c-requirements
EEA graduates

EEA graduates are not required to undertake FT. However, they must be able to demonstrate that their training and experience is equivalent to that obtained in FT
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this is ridiculous. it's hard enough working when you qualify doing VT let alone going straight in at the deep end. the system that allows this is bonkers.
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this is ridiculous. it's hard enough working when you qualify doing VT let alone going straight in at the deep end. the system that allows this is bonkers.
Which is why only corporates hire EU trained dentists i guess.

Which is also why indemnity fees have gone up

But then again, its the same reason why theres been an increase in profits for private dentistry
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Look at the quarterly Gdc publication. The majority of the cases listed appear to involve non English sounding names. I am not saying this to be in any way xenophobic.
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Look at the quarterly Gdc publication. The majority of the cases listed appear to involve non English sounding names. I am not saying this to be in any way xenophobic.
Its ridiculous - you have people getting <BBB getting accepted into these schools in eastern europe...

Its no coincidence that most complaints are against them. UK schools are clearly on a different level.

EU laws are ridiculous
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Totally agree. System has failed. I do not feel that these degrees equate to the UK ones.
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Totally agree. System has failed. I do not feel that these degrees equate to the UK ones.
Fortunately for uk graduates, practice owners agree!
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Yeah. I'm a practice owner.
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Hi, Im applying this year and what type of schools do you recommend? A lot of the dentists/young dentists i've spoken to recommended going to the schools which give you the most clinical experience, although, a lot of them also said it really doesn't matter where you go as long as you have a good attitude.
I've also heard bad things about Manchester...
I was thinking KCL, Plymouth, sheffield and barts I think.

What are your thoughts and does it make a difference for job prospects?
What bad things have you heard abt studying dentistry in manchester? Just curious to hear abt it :P
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