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Reply 40
I only had 2A*'s/6A's/2Bs at GCSE, but I got AAAA in AS and predictions of A*AAA (which I managed to achieve). My UKCAT was 600 (first time applying / 2013 entry) and 660 (second time applying / 2014 entry).


Sure, my UKCAT and GCSEs weren't great but I managed to get one interview each UCAS cycle. All you have to do is look for universities that don't look at GCSEs as much (or don't differentiate between A* / A's). It is definitely possible to get into medicine with only a few A*s at GCSE. Just apply strategically, and try and compensate with a higher UKCAT.

If you have quite a few A's at GCSE and a not-so-good UKCAT then try
- Liverpool - 15 points (A*/A = 2; B=1)
- Lancaster
- UEA - achieving you A Levels (after a gap year), they do not look at AS / GCSE (they supplied this info by phone), except for minimum English/Maths GCSE.
- Sheffield

I applied to some of these either for 2013/2014 entry so check to see if they've changed their entry requirements for 2015 entry.

Also calling individual universities can help you to decide which ones to apply to. I think Hull York guarantee an interview if you get above a certain UKCAT, so that's something to look into a well. Some unis look more at your personal statement and less at you academics; reading previous applicant threads/ringing admission/internet information on uni's website is very useful for figuring out what universities priorities are.
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Original post by Marcusroye98
Congratulations for you.
If you go onto the Medicine page on the student room you will find it hard to find an application who has anything less then 3A*'s however i do understand there are some exceptions. But being realistic for your future is important and if you are trying to get into medicine with a few A's at GCSE then you have put yourself at a disadvantage. I cannot say that he wont make it but most people are in a much better situation than him.


The population of tsr isnt a true one, quite alot of the people here applying to medicine are the high achievers who have the determination to study med as seen by their questioning people in forums/current med students/docs and also of you look at the ukcat stalking page, its full of bloody high scores for a lot of unis which isnt a true representitive because only ppl who do good/reasonably well will post their scores, i know loads freinds who sat the ukcat over the past few years who didnt get much higher than the average 600 and on tsr you will see people getting 800s. Furthermore he is not a disadvantage, it depends on what unis you are talking about? Have you even looked up the selection processes and requirments of different medical schools? You will some that use their personal statement mostly some, even using it to account for around 50% for scoring purposes (keele, aberdeen) with the rest being gcse's and a levels, you find universites such as exeter that wont even care how bad you did in you gcse's and ukcat (to an extent) as long as you have 3a's for a level and have min 5c's for gcse, you have to do your own research and apply tactically my friend


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I got 2A*s, 7As, 3Bs and a distinction. Are my grades good enough? I was pretty close to the next grade a couple of times should I get them remarked?
Original post by shiggle
I only had 2A*'s/6A's/2Bs at GCSE, but I got AAAA in AS and predictions of A*AAA (which I managed to achieve). My UKCAT was 600 (first time applying / 2013 entry) and 660 (second time applying / 2014 entry).


Sure, my UKCAT and GCSEs weren't great but I managed to get one interview each UCAS cycle. All you have to do is look for universities that don't look at GCSEs as much (or don't differentiate between A* / A's). It is definitely possible to get into medicine with only a few A*s at GCSE. Just apply strategically, and try and compensate with a higher UKCAT.

If you have quite a few A's at GCSE and a not-so-good UKCAT then try
- Liverpool - 15 points (A*/A = 2; B=1)
- Lancaster
- UEA - achieving you A Levels (after a gap year), they do not look at AS / GCSE (they supplied this info by phone), except for minimum English/Maths GCSE.
- Sheffield

I applied to some of these either for 2013/2014 entry so check to see if they've changed their entry requirements for 2015 entry.

Also calling individual universities can help you to decide which ones to apply to. I think Hull York guarantee an interview if you get above a certain UKCAT, so that's something to look into a well. Some unis look more at your personal statement and less at you academics; reading previous applicant threads/ringing admission/internet information on uni's website is very useful for figuring out what universities priorities are.


EXACTLY. you have A*'s and A's the point we are debating is when someone has only a few A's e.g three. Your application looks strong!
Original post by Hanz_a93
The population of tsr isnt a true one, quite alot of the people here applying to medicine are the high achievers who have the determination to study med as seen by their questioning people in forums/current med students/docs and also of you look at the ukcat stalking page, its full of bloody high scores for a lot of unis which isnt a true representitive because only ppl who do good/reasonably well will post their scores, i know loads freinds who sat the ukcat over the past few years who didnt get much higher than the average 600 and on tsr you will see people getting 800s. Furthermore he is not a disadvantage, it depends on what unis you are talking about? Have you even looked up the selection processes and requirments of different medical schools? You will some that use their personal statement mostly some, even using it to account for around 50% for scoring purposes (keele, aberdeen) with the rest being gcse's and a levels, you find universites such as exeter that wont even care how bad you did in you gcse's and ukcat (to an extent) as long as you have 3a's for a level and have min 5c's for gcse, you have to do your own research and apply tactically my friend


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Who am I to judge when I cant get into medicine. Alll I will say is Goodluck to him!
What university did you apply to?
Reply 46
Original post by Marcusroye98
EXACTLY. you have A*'s and A's the point we are debating is when someone has only a few A's e.g three. Your application looks strong!


I was responding to people who were stating whether x amount of A*'s was appropriate, or people were saying that less than 5A*'s and you're pretty much rejected. Sorry, should've been more clear :smile:

In regards to lower GCSEs:

In my opinion with <6-8 A's at GCSE, your chances are low, purely due to the amount of universities that you can apply to. For example, with 5A's you may only have 10 universities that will definitely consider you, then if you happen to do poorly on your UKCAT then that number lowers, so you're limited - it's definitely not impossible.

In regards to the OP, your GCSEs are strong, there is no doubt about that. Unfortunately, due to the amount of applicants to medicine, it is unlikely, even with 4As at AS that you will receive an interview. It is possible though, you will be very limited with your university choices - I strongly recommend that you ring up individual universities and ask. Also, prepare for your UKCAT, as you'll need something to really balance out your lower GCSEs. Try do it a month before the October deadline, so you have time to ring up universities and decide. You will really have to apply strategically. Assuming 4 A's AS and a high UKCAT it is definitely possible for you to get an interview.

Otherwise there are many courses that offer access to medicine. This means that you do a one year course then at the end of that depending on performance and non-academic things you may get an interview and subsequent offer for medicine at their linked university.

What you really have to decide is whether you want to
- apply to medicine once or try two times (with a gap year);
- have a backup of an access course, or have a backup of a scientific-degree with career prospects that you would enjoy with the option for grad med;
- have a backup of an non-scientific degree which you would enjoy, but without the possibility of grad med;
- apply to 5 non-medicine degree choices and either try for access/graduate later on.
- apply abroad

I would not recommend doing a gap year if you do not get in first time due to your GCSEs, as no amount of extra work experience / volunteering will change academic achievements.

Personally, if you are really committed to medicine, then I would apply to UCAS for medicine (as you have to do so anyway), then have a backup of an access course - which you should have no problem getting into.

When you want to transfer from an access course to the med school then they generally do not look at previous academic achievement - just the one year in university. So that should give you a good shot. You can also complete she access course (3-4 years) and try for grad med.
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Moved to Medicine forum to neatness :smile:
Original post by Hanz_a93
All my life people were giving me crap such as "oh you need to be good in maths to do good in chem" and "you might aswell due something like biomed and not medicine coz of your gcse's" (i had 4a 3b 1c- i really had less overall because i did a few short courses) but i went about and proved them wrong. Those that got then 5A* and got rejected, they may have had a poor ps, ukcat, bmat, a levels or down to luck. Whilst it is true good gcses can be helpful, but not always because some universities such as plymouth/exeter dont care about crap you did in your gcse's and maybe even ukcat to an extent as long as you have AAA at level whilst some focus alot on ps (keeles etc) and another such as bham asking for 8a*s- message to take away from this is apply tactically. Lol you make me sound old bro, "times have changed" i only got into medicine last year, times probably havnt changed much if any.


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What university did you apply? etc.
Original post by vortex_199
These are quite similar to my GCSE grades, though I did mine under quite unusual circumstances, so I don't know if they took that into account. Plus, I got into medical school five years ago and I know many places have brought up their grade requirements, including my medical school.

I think that this could be good enough, depending on the medical school. You need to look for a medical school that does not put emphasis on GCSE's. Don't apply to Birmingham, for instance. You also need to smash your AS-levels to show them that you are capable.


Which Medical School did you apply to?
Reply 50
Original post by shiggle
I was responding to people who were stating whether x amount of A*'s was appropriate, or people were saying that less than 5A*'s and you're pretty much rejected. Sorry, should've been more clear :smile:

In regards to lower GCSEs:

In my opinion with <6-8 A's at GCSE, your chances are low, purely due to the amount of universities that you can apply to. For example, with 5A's you may only have 10 universities that will definitely consider you, then if you happen to do poorly on your UKCAT then that number lowers, so you're limited - it's definitely not impossible.

In regards to the OP, your GCSEs are strong, there is no doubt about that. Unfortunately, due to the amount of applicants to medicine, it is unlikely, even with 4As at AS that you will receive an interview. It is possible though, you will be very limited with your university choices - I strongly recommend that you ring up individual universities and ask. Also, prepare for your UKCAT, as you'll need something to really balance out your lower GCSEs. Try do it a month before the October deadline, so you have time to ring up universities and decide. You will really have to apply strategically. Assuming 4 A's AS and a high UKCAT it is definitely possible for you to get an interview.

Otherwise there are many courses that offer access to medicine. This means that you do a one year course then at the end of that depending on performance and non-academic things you may get an interview and subsequent offer for medicine at their linked university.

What you really have to decide is whether you want to
- apply to medicine once or try two times (with a gap year);
- have a backup of an access course, or have a backup of a scientific-degree with career prospects that you would enjoy with the option for grad med;
- have a backup of an non-scientific degree which you would enjoy, but without the possibility of grad med;
- apply to 5 non-medicine degree choices and either try for access/graduate later on.
- apply abroad

I would not recommend doing a gap year if you do not get in first time due to your GCSEs, as no amount of extra work experience / volunteering will change academic achievements.

Personally, if you are really committed to medicine, then I would apply to UCAS for medicine (as you have to do so anyway), then have a backup of an access course - which you should have no problem getting into.

When you want to transfer from an access course to the med school then they generally do not look at previous academic achievement - just the one year in university. So that should give you a good shot. You can also complete she access course (3-4 years) and try for grad med.


Hi ive got 5A's, 3B's . My eng lit is getting remarked as im 2 ums off and im also considering resitting bio and phy as i got b's which is very disappointing. What are my chances with 7/8A's
Reply 51
With 7/8A's you'll have a good chance. You'll be limited to fewer universities than if you have A*'s. Just apply to your strengths. Look for universities that look at PS and non-academics, UKCAT score, predictions and AS (ums), rather than GSCEs. If you happen to get below average in UKCAT then you still have options open - e.g. Liverpool don't see a difference between A* and A's at GCSE and require >15points (with an A*/A = 2pts; B=1pt) and they do not look at UKCAT either.

Many universities look very heavily at UKCAT, with GCSEs making up a small percentage of you final academic score. With some universities a high UKCAT with average (for medicine) GCSEs > lower UKCAT with higher GCSEs, and some vice versa. Just make sure to do a lot of research beforehand, and discuss the best options with you tutor. Your college may have data showing offers/interviews received for each university for medicine, and the student's GCSEs, UKCAT and other academics. That should let you see patterns for each university.
Original post by Marcusroye98
Thats rare. If someone has only got four A's at AS then i doubt they will get A*A*A*.


The max grade you can get at AS is an A, good one.

This just shows how narrow minded your viewpoint is and how little you actually know about medicine entry...
Original post by mattmejevie
The max grade you can get at AS is an A, good one.

This just shows how narrow minded your viewpoint is and how little you actually know about medicine entry...


Well done for correcting my mistake. So here is your point: a made a mistake so i know nothing about medicine entry. Wow! There is a genius over here! Great point mate!
Reply 54
Would 7A's(Maths, Bio, Chem.) 2B's(Eng. Language) and a C suffice to be thinking about going into medicine?? (Doing Biology, Chemistry,History& Philosophy at A level)
Original post by lala321
Would 7A's(Maths, Bio, Chem.) 2B's(Eng. Language) and a C suffice to be thinking about going into medicine?? (Doing Biology, Chemistry,History& Philosophy at A level)


It might be :smile:
7 A's is good but one problem might be a B in English langauge.
But if you do well in A levels and Ukcat then i dont think it would be a problem :smile:
Original post by Marcusroye98
Well done for correcting my mistake. So here is your point: a made a mistake so i know nothing about medicine entry. Wow! There is a genius over here! Great point mate!


That coupled with your previous conclusion helped me arrive at my assumption 'mate'!
Reply 57
Hiya,

I'm thinking of applying to medicine but really stuck on what uni to apply for. I'm keen on Bristol and Birmingham but don't know if I have the grades. Was wondering if any one could help and give me there opinion.

At GCSE I achieved, 5A* in Bio, chem, RE, and 2 IT. 7A and a B.
At AS level, I acheived AABC (AA in bio and maths, B in chemistry but am going to retake a module to boost this up, and a C in history which I dropped at AS) I'm also going to pick up an EPQ.

In my UKCAT:
Verbal Reasoning 600
Quant 670
Abstract 540
Decision Analysis 610
SJT band 1

Can anyone recommend unis to apply for? and also opinion on whether I'll be a good applicant.

Thankyou
Original post by Marcusroye98
Thats rare. If someone has only got four A's at AS then i doubt they will get A*A*A*.


You can't get A*'s at AS :tongue: so four A's at AS are the perfect setup for A*A*A*
Original post by mattmejevie
That coupled with your previous conclusion helped me arrive at my assumption 'mate'!


There is being 'open' minded then there is being foolish. Someone with 3 A's at GCSE and getting into medicine is foolish but at the end of the day i am not one to say that he is not able to do it. If he gets into medicine then great-well done! But if he doesnt then He will just have to find something else.

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