The Student Room Group

Scroll to see replies

Reply 40
I don't think that he should be stopped from talking all thought I don't agree with him. However I also don't think that extremist Muslims or the ANL should be prevented from broadcasting and expressing their oppinons for the same reason. If you are going to allow the far right to express their views you also have to allow the far left that makes sense doesn't it.

I think that le pen is racist he doesn't think that the races are created equal which seems wronge to me. Still I don't think he should be banned from talking as then atleast his views are out in the open and if people want to challenge and disprove them they can.

Olympic games show clearly inequalities between the black and white races concerning, for example, athletes, and runners in particular. It's a fact. [...] I'm stating what I see. [...] Egalitarianism is simply absurd.
Le Pen

Egalitarianism = Affirming, promoting, or characterized by belief in equal political, economic, social, and civil rights for all people.
Reply 41
Bigcnee
Seeing as his views are of a right-wing, authoritarian nature; I think the description is more than justified.


I am not aware of any 'authoritarian' views of the Front National, I assumed the party was pro-democratic like the British National Party, perhaps I am wrong?
Reply 42
randdom
I don't think that he should be stopped from talking all thought I don't agree with him. However I also don't think that extremist Muslims or the ANL should be prevented from broadcasting and expressing their oppinons for the same reason. If you are going to allow the far right to express their views you also have to allow the far left that makes sense doesn't it.

I think that le pen is racist he doesn't think that the races are created equal which seems wronge to me. Still I don't think he should be banned from talking as then atleast his views are out in the open and if people want to challenge and disprove them they can.

Olympic games show clearly inequalities between the black and white races concerning, for example, athletes, and runners in particular. It's a fact. [...] I'm stating what I see. [...] Egalitarianism is simply absurd.
Le Pen

Egalitarianism = Affirming, promoting, or characterized by belief in equal political, economic, social, and civil rights for all people.


Judging by the context Le Pen uses 'egalitariamism' it is clear he is stating that the theory of everyone being born completely equal is absurd. Le Pen is merely arguing that race is more than skin deep, and that racial variation is an explanation for why certain fields are dominated by certain ethnic groups - such as the way short distance running is dominated by blacks. I very much doubt he is claiming that because people aren't born with identical innate abilities they should not be given the same political, economic, social and civil rights. Annoyingly though, I cannot find the complete version of the quote.
Reply 43
Just out of interest (I'm not trying to make a point here, I am actually genuinely interested), out of all the people who believe Le Pen has a right to be here and anyone who marches against him is anti-democratic, how many of you are the people who would be threatened by a far-right movement in Britain (ethnic minority, muslim, homosexual, socialist, etc...)?
shiny
Me. I just ignore them.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller
What exactly is wrong here is that as long as a white person hates their own race, everything is ok, its when you have someone that is white and has pride in their race, thats what some people dont like. If le pen were a black or a muslim, no one would care what he said or did.
Reply 46
kingslaw
Just out of interest (I'm not trying to make a point here, I am actually genuinely interested), out of all the people who believe Le Pen has a right to be here and anyone who marches against him is anti-democratic, how many of you are the people who would be threatened by a far-right movement in Britain (ethnic minority, muslim, homosexual, socialist, etc...)?


I need to wear glasses, by ANL standards I think that puts me at risk by a far-right movement... :rolleyes:
Shiny why did you delete your post?
Reply 48
benm
Judging by the context Le Pen uses 'egalitariamism' it is clear he is stating that the theory of everyone being born completely equal is absurd. Le Pen is merely arguing that race is more than skin deep, and that racial variation is an explanation for why certain fields are dominated by certain ethnic groups - such as the way short distance running is dominated by blacks. I very much doubt he is claiming that because people aren't born with identical innate abilities they should not be given the same political, economic, social and civil rights. Annoyingly though, I cannot find the complete version of the quote.


Isn't that what Egalitarianism is all about? People having equal political, economic, social and civil rights.

It doesn't have much to do with sports at all. I think he's just trying, hopelessly, to find a reason to be racist.

And that crap about trying to save the French way of life is just funny.

What would happen if fashions changed and every "indigenous" (or whatever they'd call em) French kid starting wearing African clothes and no one wanted to eat French food but preferred Indian or Mexican food? Would those people be told to leave just because they aren't devoted to the french way of life?
Reply 49
FoxNewsRocks
What exactly is wrong here is that as long as a white person hates their own race, everything is ok, its when you have someone that is white and has pride in their race, thats what some people dont like. If le pen were a black or a muslim, no one would care what he said or did.


Yeah they would, evey heard of Robert Mugabe or Osama bin Laden :confused:
hattori
Yeah they would, evey heard of Robert Mugabe or Osama bin Laden :confused:



Thats not a legitimate comparison. They are terrorists and make no claims otherwise.
Reply 51
FoxNewsRocks
Thats not a legitimate comparison. They are terrorists and make no claims otherwise.


So if they are terrorists and claim to be otherwise, that's alright is it? :confused:
i said they "MAKE NO CLAIMS OTHERWISE", that means they are content to be terrorists and kill people.
Reply 53
Is Robert Mugabe a terrorist though? I mean was hitler a terrorist or stalin because they both killed there own people. I think that Hitler, starlin and Mugabe were infact all politicians (also dictators but politicians first).
It's fascism. It stinks. It's going on not far from where I live and it's scary. It can't be justifyed by saying "the people" agree with what such parties stand for. Most of these people have no idea of the content of their manifestos, but are fed with promises that the current government failed to deliver. This may be a generalisation but the pattern fits.

It's dangerous to start playing down the threats they pose to society. You don't have to support them to be supporting them.
kingslaw
Just out of interest (I'm not trying to make a point here, I am actually genuinely interested), out of all the people who believe Le Pen has a right to be here and anyone who marches against him is anti-democratic, how many of you are the people who would be threatened by a far-right movement in Britain (ethnic minority, muslim, homosexual, socialist, etc...)?


wuld they throw french out of UK?
if yes then ill bb out of here
Reply 56
Sianabanana
It's fascism. It stinks. It's going on not far from where I live and it's scary. It can't be justifyed by saying "the people" agree with what such parties stand for. Most of these people have no idea of the content of their manifestos, but are fed with promises that the current government failed to deliver. This may be a generalisation but the pattern fits.

It's dangerous to start playing down the threats they pose to society. You don't have to support them to be supporting them.


I agree completely but many other people don't.
Reply 57
Big Sister
So, if everyone followed Mr Pen's example then every country should reclaim their natural habitants (historically). How far back would we go before we decide who belongs where?
What happens to people who are mixed race? Who decides who belongs where?


Mr.LePen decides I guess.
Reply 58
aliel
Howard you are making me laugh. Do you not know why there are Algerians in France? Do you not know that it was the French that encouraged them to come post-1945, that they promised them work and a good environment to bring children up in? Are you not aware that after the post war boom, when there was widespread unemployment, the Algerian population were then shunned and the state went to employing nationals instead of these immigrants (many of which re-built france)? And i am sure you MUST have heard of the atrocities that took place in Algeria by French Nationals..the torture...it was disgusting. The Algerian situation in France is a problem that was caused not that just arose out of the blue.


Yes, I know of all this. So what? Algerians were invited into France. And now LePen thinks the French don't need them anymore and are inviting them to leave. And lots and lots of French people agree with him.
Reply 59
kingslaw
Just out of interest (I'm not trying to make a point here, I am actually genuinely interested), out of all the people who believe Le Pen has a right to be here and anyone who marches against him is anti-democratic, how many of you are the people who would be threatened by a far-right movement in Britain (ethnic minority, muslim, homosexual, socialist, etc...)?


Irrelevant. I wouldn't be at risk by a far right organization.

But, I might be at risk from a far left organization. That doesn't mean I insist on closing down Red Lion Square.

Latest

Trending

Trending