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Pushing to stop smoking

Scenario:
- Person X hates smoking. Can't stand it.
- Person Y loves smoking. Has done for the last 4 years.
Person X starts pushing for the relationship to get more serious.

4 months down the road, person X starts making a huge deal about smoking, and saying person Y is selfish for smoking when they know person X hates it.
Person Y says they were smoking before, and if person X really hated it so much, they shouldn't have even come over to a smoker anyway.

Who's right?

Reply 1

They're both right, but person Y is more right, by quite a long way.

Reply 2

If person X cant stand smoking knew that person Y was already a smoker then person X really shouldn't have started pushing the relationship before bringing up person Y's smoking.

Reply 3

Thanks guys. A clear win for me then. :biggrin:

Reply 4

Y is right, and let me guess, thats you lol. It pretty obvious from your wording.

Reply 5

Is it that obvious? Damn. I wanted it to be all enigmatic. :p:

Reply 6

Person X starts pushing

person X starts making a huge deal...


lol, but even if it had been unbaised, your still not the one in the wrong.

Reply 7

i think x might just care more about your health and since things are getting serious feel like they have more of a chance of changing your opinion then when you were just starting out..

Reply 8

I don't think there's particular wrong on either side. Person X naturally wants person Y to give up a habit which they dislike, and which is harmful to person Y. I see nothing wrong in person X wanting person Y to change a habit like that, since they are going out with person Y. I also see nothing wrong in the person Y refusing to give up, since they are at liberty to make a choice regardless of person Xs wishes.

However, since person Y is unwilling to stop smoking, person X is going to have to decide whether that is so much of an issue that it will affect the relationship. Essentially, there is a conflict of interest and if neither person X nor person Y are willing to compromise, there is a real problem there, which may lead to person X and person Y feeling that a relationship is no longer possible.

Reply 9

Yep that's essentially what happened! I just wanted to know whether I was a horrible, selfish person for not giving up, basically :p:

Reply 10

To play devil's advocate here for a moment... in the heat of meeting someone and falling for them one is often all too ready to overlook "flaws" and to go along with the excitement and whatnot. Ideally of course people would maintain a consistent attitude, but if you can't be slightly irrational when you're all loved up then when can you be? Perhaps that's why the guy didn't say anything about your smoking. But then as you become more attached and potentially see something longer-term developing you think ahead and look at what the long-term consequences of the other person's actions might be. Thus things like early death, infertility, constant coughing, rotten teeth and disgusting breath loom slightly nearer on the horizon. This is actually pretty normal I think; it's the same reason why a mate you barely know won't care as much if you inject heroin as your parents or a closer friend might.

Reply 11

:dito:

Person X might not have seen a serious future with Person Y, hence the smoking issue wasn't really going to be one.
But now it is serious, it's going to both Person X more.

Reply 12

if person X really loves person y and thnks that they will end up together forever, then maybe in the long run, person x giving up would be a good thing.

on a side note; i went to spain this past week, and went to the theme park, port aventura. for some reason they let people smoke in this park, and the amount of people smoking in queues was horrible. i mean, we are standing about for 30 minutes to get on a ride, in the hot sun.. the last thing we want is to be covered by someone elses ciggy smoke.

gggrr.