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M283 - Disgust at Further Russian Sanctions, The Rt. Hon. tehFrance MP

This house firmly believes that the new sanctions that the EU has drawn up are an utter disgrace and should not have been considered in anyway shape or form. There is no place for sanctions in this world, this world where all should love and care for one another, no matter the circumstances. Economic sanctions hurt us as much as Russia, already it's affected Poland and Slovakia, both of whom are seeking payouts from the EU.

This house is also rather pleased with the EU's plans of postponement which will hopefully lead to the sanctions against our Slavic friends being dropped as they're wholly unfair, Ukraine should share equal blame in this situation for it were them that started this whole affair. Our hearts go out to the Russian people, all of whom have been unjustly treated by the EU, the US and lastly this very country!

And finally this house supports the Russian people in their quest for peace and prosperity, may they forever be out gracious comrades in arms, fighting for equality, prosperity and peace. End the sanctions now!
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If Putin would agree to take his time with the Crimean independence referendum and do it properly then I have no problem with Russia.

Unfortunately what they're doing now is a bit Nazi-esque.
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Nay, interestingly enough I've been studying the cold war recently, and Putin is playing off the same text book as back then.
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Nay.
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Nay, interestingly enough I've been studying the cold war recently, and Putin is playing off the same text book as back then.
Of course he's playing off the same textbook as back then, he's ex-KGB, he was taught these ways, he follows these ways and he leads by these ways although interestingly rather than harking back to the USSR in his rhetoric, he's harking back to Imperial Russia which I personally find quite intriguing.
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Nay. Frankly, Putin can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.
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this world where all should love and care for one another, no matter the circumstances.
If you wanted to join the Socialist party you should have just said, tehFrance old chap; you can apply here
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If you wanted to join the Socialist party you should have just said, tehFrance old chap; you can apply here
That's what I was thinking lol
I thought that sentence was an attempt to sweet talk the liberal left hehe
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If you wanted to join the Socialist party you should have just said, tehFrance old chap; you can apply here
Well I did consider it at one point :moon:
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That's what I was thinking lol
I thought that sentence was an attempt to sweet talk the liberal left hehe
No not at all :ninja:
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'Nay'.

Russian influence must not be allowed to expand.
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Most definitely not, we can't just stand by and let Putin do whatever the hell he wants. The economic impact is unfortunate, but that's on Putin's head, not ours.
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I'm truly disappointed in this houses response to our Russian friends. Just because they took back a gift to Ukraine doesn't make them bad people, people are still alive in the Crimea from when it was Russian so really what does it matter?

Ukraine isn't the best country to have tensions with Russia over!
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The EU and West need to find a lasting solution for peace, rather than repeatedly using ineffective sanctions.

Sanctions will have a greater impact on the poorest in Russian society, who have done nothing to start the conflict.

That said, Putin must stop acting like an idiot if we're to achieve anything positive.
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The EU and West need to find a lasting solution for peace, rather than repeatedly using ineffective sanctions.

Sanctions will have a greater impact on the poorest in Russian society, who have done nothing to start the conflict.

That said, Putin must stop acting like an idiot if we're to achieve anything positive.
Compromise allows Russian expansion, right now I don't see peace being possible.
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I think we need to tread very carefully. There is a similarity to the Sudetenland Crisis; however, the Ukrainian government seem to be far from devoid of blame. Aggressive politicking such as NATO is just serving to fan the flames: economic sanctions and embargoes on both sides with UN support to protect civilians should force an end to conflict, with sanctions being gradually lifted layer by layer, and reinstated as necessary, while just, secure long-term relationships are developed. The damage to Eastern European nations would not be a big deal if energy and food security via permaculture, limited pesticide use, greater meat regulations, renewables and thorium were taken seriously. A lesson for us all.
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