'palestinian' imam in sermon takes out Ak47 and swears allegiance to Islamic State

Caliphate.

And people say there's a difference between the ideologies of Hamas and ISIS

The 'palestinians' have always referred to themselves as a 'spearhead' against the west.



This is what goes on in 'palestinian' mosques

There is clearly a difference in ideologies. Hamas are Palestinian nationalists who want to create an Islamic state in the land of Israel/Palestine.]

Actually, you'll see in the video that I posted and you seemed to have ignored, that the Imam talks about a caliphate.

Also this chap seems to think that they're a spearhead of Islam and Muslims. I wonder what he means by that

He also talks about who the 'palestinians' are and admits that they're Arabs from other countries and not natives

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=efa_1333570776

1) Hamas (military wing) operates ONLY on Palestinian land. Their political wing however is dispersed throughout the ME. ISIS, as a military wing operates and hopes to operate throughout the ME. Unlike hamas, which has no interest in doing so.
2) Hamas believes in Palestinian nationalism. ISIS doesn't even believe there should be a Palestinian state. They just want one state throughout the ME.
3) Hamas is a decent ally to bashar and hezballah. ISIS, atm is probably the biggest group fighting hezballah and bashar. Iran is no ally of ISIS. Yet Iran, to this day still supplies hamas and other Palestinian militia with weapons.
4) Hamas believes in Palestinian unity, christians, muslims, druze & samaritan palestinians living peacefully. Hence why they haven't bombed churches or shiite mosques in Gaza. ISIS not only bombs historical churches, but also bombs 10th century mosques belonging to the shiite muslims.
5) If you've ever bothered to visit Palestine or watch mainstream Palestinian media you'd now of the ISIS parodies we have aired.
6) Hamas killed 22 members of an AlQaeda-linked group in Gaza. Remember, now, even Al-Qaeda disagrees with the actions of ISIS with a recent speech by their current leader.
7) During that clash Hamas killed the leader of that AlQaeda linked group in Gaza. He's called Abu Abdullah Al Suri


This conflict isn't as simple as you make it out to seem.

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i do not believe any of this rusbbish for one moment. islam makes no secret of its plan for world dominiation

i do not believe any of this rusbbish for one moment. islam makes no secret of its plan for world dominiation

Says the person who's never bothered to visit Palestine. You don't know how life is like here mate. Hamas, for anyone educated about ME politics, isn't the same as ISIS. The very fact hamas is allied to hezballah, which is currently fighting ISIS in Iraq and Syria gives you a small hint that those 2 groups aren't the same. If they were, shiite, christian, samaritan and druze palestinians would be killed. Palestinians would be decapitated just because of their religious and political views. Foreign journalists would be decapitated, yet we had sooo many in the past 3 months, they left perfectly fine. I wonder why? Churches and mosques would be destroyed. But that's not the case, why? Because thankfully, the ISIS mentality here isn't welcomed.

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Disagree with me as much as you want. But let me remind you, you haven't been here to make such BS claims.

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do not dare tell anyone they cannot have an opinion because they have not been to palestine, that is not an argument


having lived in palestine in no way bolsters your own opinion

Where exactly did I say you're not allowed to have an opinion?

If need be I'll explain in more detail.
The very fact you live outside of Palestine renders your "opinion" less reliable. You are not merely stating an opinion. You're dehumanising and grouping palestinians into one group to justify any aggression against them.

You state these "facts" of yours from biased media and at the same time have the nerve to claim such BS and group us all as ISIS supporters without ever visiting a single city in Palestine.

But of course, you're entitled to your factually incorrect "opinion".

i could say your opinion is unreliable because you are brainwashed by hamas propoganda and hence are incapable of being objective

see how it can work both ways