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Xena, I think the point the chap was making was about the university, not the city.
I'm from Leeds, study at Warwick and come to back to Leeds Uni to do research in the vacation period. I'm reluctant to generalise, and i know this is completely subjective, but whenever i'm up Woodhouse Lane, i do feel Leeds Uni has a higher percentage of what others would term 'rahs' or Sloane Rangers, etc.
I think it probably has more to do with the city's geographical location than anything else, and the fact that London and the south east have the highest number of university applicants in the country, so there's bound to be some imbalance.

It must be off-putting if your background is rather different, and yes, it's irritating when they start slagging off Leeds (even though they hail from some nondescript place in the south east), but Britain is a fairly unequal society, and if they can afford to go to the top public schools, they are more likely to dominate the top universities.
The Great Hall at University of Leeds
University of Leeds
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Xena, I think the point the chap was making was about the university, not the city.
I'm from Leeds, study at Warwick and come to back to Leeds Uni to do research in the vacation period. I'm reluctant to generalise, and i know this is completely subjective, but whenever i'm up Woodhouse Lane, i do feel Leeds Uni has a higher percentage of what others would term 'rahs' or Sloane Rangers, etc.
I think it probably has more to do with the city's geographical location than anything else, and the fact that London and the south east have the highest number of university applicants in the country, so there's bound to be some imbalance.

It must be off-putting if your background is rather different, and yes, it's irritating when they start slagging off Leeds (even though they hail from some nondescript place in the south east), but Britain is a fairly unequal society, and if they can afford to go to the top public schools, they are more likely to dominate the top universities.


Where I'm at there's a few rahs but that tends to be girls rather than boys. A lot of southern lads don't tend to go for the Sloane Ranger dialect and accent but if they do then they're the pinnacle of poshness, from like NW London or somewhere plush in South London at a stretch. But the snobbery hasn't bothered me at all yet. It's a factor of going to university and especially a Northern one as lots of people tend to come up from down south. Is it nailed on that the south is posher than the north? No. Look at Cheshire, and some places in Staffordshire, Derbyshire, Lancashire etc. I'm a Northern city dweller originally but that doesn't mean everyone's posher than me. Doing an English degree means I know a lot about dialect and accent, and employ bidialectism and convergence when appropriate.
Reply 22
lol i like the 'some places in staffordshire', made me giggle as a midlander.
Convergence is terrible, i can't stop my accent from adapting to the person i'm having a conversation with; particularly with my german housemate, i feel terrible like i'm taking the mick sometimes haha
zebidee
lol i like the 'some places in staffordshire', made me giggle as a midlander.
Convergence is terrible, i can't stop my accent from adapting to the person i'm having a conversation with; particularly with my german housemate, i feel terrible like i'm taking the mick sometimes haha


Haha! But convergence is a thing that must be done initially. After a few beers I tend to stop doing it and revert back to Mancunian accent and Mancunian dialect. Which is bad.
Reply 24
nah i think it's part of me, i can't help it. convergence and divergence can happen unconsciously! I think it must be some conversation convention to create familiarity, like copying body language
Toffs??? Where??? Please show them to me because at the moment I am in accomodation with some of the roughest people I have met in my life. Ever. It's getting scary, I thought I was coming to uni to meet more educated and grown up people, but instead I've ended up with a bunch of loud mouthed, swearing, chain smoking, cackling northerners. It's fun sometimes, but sometimes I wonder what the hell have I done coming up here.
If you want Toffs, get yourself to Dev.

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