Breast Cancer (Marianne Faithfull)

OP

She's remaining quite positive about her treatment. I think she's a fighter.

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I think she's a fighter.

That's what they say about everyone who gets cancer.

People these days don't survive because they're 'fighters' they do it because of modern medicine.

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vickyrkenya

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Rubbish, if the brain gives up then the body gives up. Mental and physical health are more related than most people realise.

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Rubbish, if the brain gives up then the body gives up. Mental and physical health are more related than most people realise.

With out modern medicine, they wouldn't get the chance to be 'fighters'.

If the brain gives up then the body gives up.

Not true. If that were the case suicidals wouldn't have todo anything.

Mental and physical health are more related than most people realise.

I'm quite aware of the links, thank you.

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mipmapped

That's what they say about everyone who gets cancer.

People these days don't survive because they're 'fighters' they do it because of modern medicine.

I'd say it about anything Marianne came up against as she is a fighter. She fought Heroin addiction etc and she survived sex with Mick Jagger lol.

the beautiful one.

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she survived sex with Mick Jagger lol.

I'll give you that.

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mipmapped

That's what they say about everyone who gets cancer.

People these days don't survive because they're 'fighters' they do it because of modern medicine.

I agree with you without medicine being a 'fighter' doesn't mean much. But conversely, the medicine and the positive mental attitude will make for a greater chance of recovery than modern medicine alone.

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National Award

the 5 year suvival rate is deprndent on the type MUCH MUCH lower with imflamaty than other types

look it up was as low as 5% 10 years ago

wish her luck though and hope its not that type

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But conversely, the medicine and the positive mental attitude will make for a greater chance of recovery than modern medicine alone.

No doubt. I'd imagine the will to live is pretty strong in most, mind you.

It's more the media presentation of cancer sufferers as 'victims'.

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mipmapped

I'll give you that.

although to be honest i think i would. following in the... footsteps of my role-model. heheh.

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Angelil

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vickyrkenya

Rubbish, if the brain gives up then the body gives up. Mental and physical health are more related than most people realise.

Please try and be a little more sensitive. Both of my grandfathers wanted to live, probably more than even any of their families realised, and they still died. Statements like yours imply that they didn't want to survive.

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Angelil

Please try and be a little more sensitive. Both of my grandfathers wanted to live, probably more than even any of their families realised, and they still died. Statements like yours imply that they didn't want to survive.

I don't think that's what she meant, i think she wasn't necessarily saying the desire to live will mean you will live, only that it helps.

I am sorry to hear about your grandfathers.

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Anonymous #1

There has been allot of advances in cancer research, if its detected very early better chances of getting rid of it.

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skylite

Ellsbells3032

hey, breast cancer is a diffuucult thing to live with...my mother was diagnoised with 2nd stage cancer with april so i understand what its like to live with it...quite frankly the earlier they catch it the better and more chnace the person is of surviving and the less invasive the cure...but remember abiut 95% of women survive breast cancer these days so i'm sure this person will be fine if they caught it early

Are u sure...? Im pretty certain the survival rate is 60-70% for breast cancer after five years.

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MagicNMedicine

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Lance Armstrong has a good summary on cancer in his book 'its not about a bike'

he basically says on the 'fighter' issue that the essential truth to remember about cancer is: people die. Some people do all the right things, have the right spirit etc and they die. Other people don't seem to have the same toughness but they survive.

Also 'survive' is the word he uses, he says you don't 'beat' cancer, you survive it. The doctors and the chemicals they use to assault the cancer (and your body) are what do or don't beat the cancer....all the patient can do is 'survive' the treatment.

He acknowledges himself that he was a pretty long shot (he had advanced cancer throughout his lungs and brain as well as his testicles) and had to have some very aggressive treatment, and probably his cycling training and mental toughness helped him to take more harsh treatment than other people could have done, but even then the fact he survived was a mixture of luck and the skill of the people he had treating him.

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There has been allot of advances in cancer research, if its detected very early better chances of getting rid of it.

Why post this anon? It's hardly inflammatory.

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