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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    Why have any official policies then? Not all MPs of any party will necessarily unanimously agree on a policy, that doesn't meant you refrain from declaring it an official policy (if it did I can't imagine you'd have many policies left...).
    There's certainly policies most of a party will agree on; these normally end up as manifesto commitments. There is certain policies that are less straight forward; these normally don't end up as manifesto commitments even if 60-75% of a party would vote for them. This is how it is in real life and seemingly is how it goes on here.
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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    Why have any official policies then? Not all MPs of any party will necessarily unanimously agree on a policy, that doesn't meant you refrain from declaring it an official policy (if it did I can't imagine you'd have many policies left...).
    Beat me to it.
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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    Why have any official policies then? Not all MPs of any party will necessarily unanimously agree on a policy, that doesn't meant you refrain from declaring it an official policy (if it did I can't imagine you'd have many policies left...).
    To be honest on TSR it often does happen just because each party has far fewer active members than it would in real life. The Liberals, however, do have a number of respected and active members on either side of the debate. It would be wrong and undemocratic of us to force them into a position where they had to sacrifice their beliefs to follow those of the leadership team. Rather, we can agree on the fact that one way or the other, it should be for the people to decide whether or not the Royal Family continue as heads of state, not Parliament
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Beat me to it.
    Hear hear



    (Original post by Green_Pink)
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    Would the Liberal Party discipline a member who voted deliberately against it's manifesto pledges or voted against a referendum inside the time frame your party is seeking to propose?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Beat me to it.
    I'm sure there are policies not in the Labour manifesto you wouldn't find unanimous agreement on.
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    To be honest on TSR it often does happen just because each party has far fewer active members than it would in real life. The Liberals, however, do have a number of respected and active members on either side of the debate. It would be wrong and undemocratic of us to force them into a position where they had to sacrifice their beliefs to follow those of the leadership team. Rather, we can agree on the fact that one way or the other, it should be for the people to decide whether or not the Royal Family continue as heads of state, not Parliament

    But there should be no doubt that a Republican should vote for a Republican party.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Hear hear





    Would the Liberal Party discipline a member who voted deliberately against it's manifesto pledges or voted against a referendum inside the time frame your party is seeking to propose?
    In theory it's possible, although they would be completely immune from any action if they instead chose to abstain. However, there were no objections from any of our members to current policies and I believe their all things we can unite behind without the need to force members into supporting them
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    I'm sure there are policies not in the Labour manifesto you wouldn't find unanimous agreement on.
    Yep. And we wouldn't ask people to support us based on policies we couldn't decide. We ask people to vote on us based on our policies, pledged in our manifesto.
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    The point of manifestos is to make it easy for voters to identify choose the party matching their interests. I think each party leader should have had to do a quiz and the results available to everyone.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    But there should be no doubt that a Republican should vote for a Republican party.
    What if said republican opposes Labour's illegal and inhumane foreign crusades? What if they believe that regardless of their own opinions, referendums should be respected for a consistent length of time? What if they think that Labour has too often been too weak to fight for what is right, and instead takes the easy way out through its PR-machine politics? There are plenty of reasons a republican may prefer the Liberals.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    The point of manifestos is to make it easy for voters to identify choose the party matching their interests. I think each party leader should have had to do a quiz and the results available to everyone.
    Why should it be all about the leaders? Is it not more important to look at the party as a whole?
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    I wonder what the vote swing will be now that the majority of parties have a monarchy reference in them now?
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    What if said republican opposes Labour's illegal and inhumane foreign crusades? What if they believe that regardless of their own opinions, referendums should be respected for a consistent length of time? What if they think that Labour has too often been too weak to fight for what is right, and instead takes the easy way out through its PR-machine politics? There are plenty of reasons a republican may prefer the Liberals.
    Ouch. Below the belt much, I don't bang on about tuition fees do I? One, this is TSR Labour - RL Labour isn't even a Republican party. Two, Tony Blair was recently evicted from the TSR Labour Party in a weird parting motion by James222.

    A Republican who just said they're voting for a party because its a republican party is likely to prefer that party over one that isn't a republican party. Its not difficult.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    The point of manifestos is to make it easy for voters to identify choose the party matching their interests. I think each party leader should have had to do a quiz and the results available to everyone.
    From a member of the party that's switched leader half way through an election, your missing a pretty crucial practical flaw in that plan.

    Besides the absurdity of putting that much emphasis in the hands of the leader under a PR system.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    I wonder what the vote swing will be now that the majority of parties have a monarchy reference in them now?
    It could go either way. I think the Tories have done themselves more harm than good tbh.
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    In theory it's possible, although they would be completely immune from any action if they instead chose to abstain. However, there were no objections from any of our members to current policies and I believe their all things we can unite behind without the need to force members into supporting them
    Cheers for that. Makes interesting reading considering how individual Liberals voted in the Monarchy Bill division.


    With regards to a time frame how long would a government or parliament be bound to honour the result of a referendum? And while were on referendums, what would be Liberal plans to introduce the proposed referendum by petition policy?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    RL Labour isn't even a Republican party.
    BTW there was a republican meeting at the conference this week, 12 whole people showed up...
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    What if said republican opposes Labour's illegal and inhumane foreign crusades?
    Could you please elaborate on this?
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    Why should it be all about the leaders? Is it not more important to look at the party as a whole?
    Absolutely, but realistically you couldn't make an accessible quiz where all voters read each one.
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    (Original post by Cryptographic)
    BTW there was a republican meeting at the conference this week, 12 whole people showed up...
    lol
 
 
 
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