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    TSR Conservative & Unionist Party
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    157
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    TSR UKIP
    88
    14.08%
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    9.28%
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    (Original post by KevK92)
    Be grateful you don't know what a Tory is.
    I don't take notice of uk politics, infact I don't even care about them in general, I'm assuming they're bad
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    (Original post by GreenHippie)
    I noticed there's a Libertarian party, but it is right-wing. Is there not a left-wing Libertarian party or is this correct of the Greens? :confused:
    They are mainly right-wing, but they do have left-wingers (PicardianSocialist is their deputy)


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    Haven't glanced here in a while and I'm afraid 21 pages is a little too much to read but I just want to ask a couple questions to clarify things. Have you gotten rid of the monarchy or will they be a referendum on it?
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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    Haven't glanced here in a while and I'm afraid 21 pages is a little too much to read but I just want to ask a couple questions to clarify things. Have you gotten rid of the monarchy or will they be a referendum on it?
    The monarchy was aboloshed last term.
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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    Haven't glanced here in a while and I'm afraid 21 pages is a little too much to read but I just want to ask a couple questions to clarify things. Have you gotten rid of the monarchy or will they be a referendum on it?
    It's all gone, but there are a couple of finishing-up things to do before we can elect the inaugural TSR President.
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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    Haven't glanced here in a while and I'm afraid 21 pages is a little too much to read but I just want to ask a couple questions to clarify things. Have you gotten rid of the monarchy or will they be a referendum on it?
    The left got rid of the Monarchy, most of the right disagreed with the decision and wants it restored or at least for a referendum to take place.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Glory to the Tories..

    Greens - Best manifesto prize

    Libertarians - How about you come over to our place you nice people... liked your manifesto the best in policy bar ours

    Liberals - Does that even get to 200 words?

    Ukip - Good for the most part

    Labour - Ending universal welfare, your seeing the light.

    Socialists - Your manifesto sickens me. It gave me a vision of North Korea.

    Matthew - Not bad, should have made it jazzy.
    The Socialists here are Libertarian. NK doesn't even meet the basic standards for a socialist society. It's essentially a fascist state. No, it's literally a fascist state, running big business. Socialism ought to foster lateral power, free from capitalist-style minority rule and open to democratic, collaborative and localised control so people can dictate their own affairs. I’m sure this socialist party isn’t quite on board but the (Collaborative) Commons offers an alternative to market and state, utilising both their strengths whilst decoupled from most of their weaknesses.
    Cameron of the Tories endorsed Jeremy Rifkin’s Third Industrial Revolution master plan, which underlines the transition to a society more oriented around the Commons.
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    So the left abolished the monarchy without a referendum and they are still things to finish up before electing a president? Shouldn't that have been sorted out in the bill which abolished the monarchy?
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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    So the left abolished the monarchy without a referendum and they are still things to finish up before electing a president? Shouldn't that have been sorted out in the bill which abolished the monarchy?
    Amendments need to be made separately to the MHoC Guidance Document and Constitution - these cannot be made via a bill.
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    Can I ask the parties whether or not they have enough people to fill their seats should they get the percentage of votes they hope for? Say could you provide 12 MPs if you got 25% of the vote or thereabouts?

    Loans should remain with banks and football clubs in my view.
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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    So the left abolished the monarchy without a referendum and they are still things to finish up before electing a president? Shouldn't that have been sorted out in the bill which abolished the monarchy?
    You'd have thought so really. As a republican it was a real shame to see it all done in what was frankly a fairly haphazard fashion.
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    (Original post by O133)
    Amendments need to be made separately to the MHoC Guidance Document and Constitution - these cannot be made via a bill.
    I looked at the Guidance Document and Constitution but I can't see anything there which would stop a government planning in advance what the next steps would be after abolishing the monarchy.

    Why wasn't a referendum on the monarchy held? Don't you think it's undemocratic to not allow the people to vote on their monarchy?
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Can I ask the parties whether or not they have enough people to fill their seats should they get the percentage of votes they hope for? Say could you provide 12 MPs if you got 25% of the vote or thereabouts?

    Loans should remain with banks and football clubs in my view.
    Ukip had 6 seats last teem (12% of house)

    We could now fill 12 seats (24% of the house) should we win that many


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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    I looked at the Guidance Document and Constitution but I can't see anything there which would stop a government planning in advance what the next steps would be after abolishing the monarchy.

    Why wasn't a referendum on the monarchy held? Don't you think it's undemocratic to not allow the people to vote on their monarchy?
    Here at UKIP we completely opposed the abolition of the monarchy, and campaigned for it to stay!

    A referendum was held here in 2012, and by a large majority decided to keep it.

    Should you vote for ukip, we will endeavour to do our best to reverse the changes made last term!


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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    I looked at the Guidance Document and Constitution but I can't see anything there which would stop a government planning in advance what the next steps would be after abolishing the monarchy.

    Why wasn't a referendum on the monarchy held? Don't you think it's undemocratic to not allow the people to vote on their monarchy?
    There are draft amendments in the Abolition Act, but we are required to follow a different procedure to actually get them in the GD/Constitution.

    No more undemocratic than to not allow the people to vote on their pensions, taxes, healthcare, military, foreign affairs etc. This is a representative democracy, Parliament makes the decisions, they don't all go to referendum.
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    I hope people realise that Fascism and Socialism are basically the same, the political spectrum is a circle and Fascism and Socialism are on top of each other

    The Socialist party may as well be called the Fascist party Bloody Fascists :fuhrer:
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    (Original post by InfernoPlato)
    I looked at the Guidance Document and Constitution but I can't see anything there which would stop a government planning in advance what the next steps would be after abolishing the monarchy.

    Why wasn't a referendum on the monarchy held? Don't you think it's undemocratic to not allow the people to vote on their monarchy?
    It was highly undemocratic, republicans didn't believe they could win a referendum (having lost the first), so they resorted to this. Very disappointing.

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    (Original post by O133)
    There are draft amendments in the Abolition Act, but we are required to follow a different procedure to actually get them in the GD/Constitution.

    No more undemocratic than to not allow the people to vote on their pensions, taxes, healthcare, military, foreign affairs etc. This is a representative democracy, Parliament makes the decisions, they don't all go to referendum.
    Big mistake.

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