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  • View Poll Results: Cast your vote in the TSR General Election:
    TSR Conservative & Unionist Party
    104
    16.64%
    TSR Green Party
    157
    25.12%
    TSR Liberal Party
    57
    9.12%
    TSR UKIP
    88
    14.08%
    TSR Socialist Party
    58
    9.28%
    Matthew_Lowson, Independent
    14
    2.24%
    TSR Labour Party
    109
    17.44%
    TSR Libertarian Party
    20
    3.20%
    Spoilt Ballot
    18
    2.88%

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    (Original post by talentedlobster)
    That's me! May I help you?
    i like libertarianism, why don't people like this concept?
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    (Original post by zedeneye1)
    libertarian party is not very popular in uk is it ?
    There isn't really a Libertarian party at all most likely due to the dominance of Tories and Liberals. There is one in actually quite a lot of countries though the. Ingest probably being the USA (you can understand why).
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    (Original post by zedeneye1)
    i like libertarianism, why don't people like this concept?
    People do. As my last post there are loads round the world, but due to the dominance of Tories and Liberals in the UK they take quite a few of the Libertarian idealists so a party can't really get the ball rolling, without being stomped over.
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    (Original post by talentedlobster)
    People do. As my last post there are loads round the world, but due to the dominance of Tories and Liberals in the UK they take quite a few of the Libertarian idealists so a party can't really get the ball rolling, without being stomped over.
    it's hard to believe there's not one country out there with a libertarian government....

    I mean what's the lowest tax rates in europe?
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    TSR Labour is a party with vision and the conviction to see that vision through. We have been powerful advocates of a fairer society and have established a legacy for achievement here on TSR and in RL. We are a left-of-centre party that puts people first whilst taking economic and political realities into consideration. We seek to honour the confidence our electors have in us and win over those that doubt us. Under a Labour government, people get a better deal - secure in their own futures and secure in the knowledge that they are working towards a better future.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Apologies for not replying to this sooner



    Well obviously I know I can find it there


    What I meant was without just reciting the "if elected we'll try to this blah blah blah" Can you sum up why someone should vote UKIP rather than the other parties. Why is voting for you a better choice than voting for the other parties.

    Think of it like this, in a closing speech in a Leaders Debate, what would you say?

    And that goes for all the leaders








    Without referring me to your manifestos and saying you'll do x y z if you're elected, why should someone vote for your party over the others?
    I'll answer this too incase MacDaddi doesn't see this before the poll closes. A vote for the Liberals is a vote for many things. It is a vote for having your democracy respected, with the voters having the final say rather than a small group of MPs. It is a vote for a party who will always look at the evidence, and not support something just because it's from the left or the right. But most of all, a vote for the Liberals is a vote to make sure that no matter what, you have the freedom to decide your own life, your own actions and your own future, with a Government who will protect these freedoms rather than take them away so that each and every citizen of Britain can reach their potential. That's a Liberal Britain - the right to take the opportunity to do what you know is best for you.
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    I could give a grand speech about why you should vote Tory like those above but the truth is that you don't want to vote Labour, they are extremists who stole from Canadian state pensions and left us without a head of state. You don't want to vote Liberal, they'll never lead a coalition. You don't want to vote green, they are the socialist party in hippie clothing. You don't want to vote libertarian, they'd privatise your NHS. You can't vote Socialist because their a bunch of commies who want to abolish money. And you certainly can't vote Ukip, their positively dysfunctional.

    The Tories meanwhile have effected green measures, reforms to EU policies, we've devolved power, we've sorted out the rail system and we've fought for your economic liberty to boot.

    Vote for a party of winners.. Vote TSR Conservative.. we really are everything you could want in a pragmatic, aspirational party.

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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I could give a grand speech about why you should vote Tory like those above but the truth is that you don't want to vote Labour, they are extremists who stole from Canadian state pensions and left us without a head of state. You don't want to vote Liberal, they'll never lead a coalition. You don't want to vote green, they are the socialist party in hippie clothing. You don't want to vote libertarian, they'd privatise your NHS. You can't vote Socialist because their a bunch of commies who want to abolish money. And you certainly can't vote Ukip, their positively dysfunctional.

    The Tories meanwhile have effected green measures, reforms to EU policies, we've devolved power, we've sorted out the rail system and we've fought for your economic liberty to boot.

    Vote for a party of winners.. Vote TSR Conservative.. we really are everything you could want in a pragmatic, aspirational party.

    Why so negative, Rakas? Surely the Tories have enough to be proud of rather than just relying on people not liking the other options or them simply not having enough seats?
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    (Original post by zedeneye1)
    where is the libertarian party manifesto ?
    too busy being free to make one.
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    Why so negative, Rakas? Surely the Tories have enough to be proud of rather than just relying on people not liking the other options or them simply not having enough seats?
    Agreed. I want parties to tell voters why, exactly, we should vote for them. Not why we shouldn't vote for other parties.

    Set out your market stall and show us your wares. Otherwise you're just saying, "We don't really have anything for you here, but you should see the other lot, they're even worse!" Not a sales pitch that inspires confidence... Stand tall and be proud!
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I could give a grand speech about why you should vote Tory like those above but the truth is that you don't want to vote Labour, they are extremists who stole from Canadian state pensions and left us without a head of state. You don't want to vote Liberal, they'll never lead a coalition. You don't want to vote green, they are the socialist party in hippie clothing. You don't want to vote libertarian, they'd privatise your NHS. You can't vote Socialist because their a bunch of commies who want to abolish money. And you certainly can't vote Ukip, their positively dysfunctional.

    The Tories meanwhile have effected green measures, reforms to EU policies, we've devolved power, we've sorted out the rail system and we've fought for your economic liberty to boot.

    Vote for a party of winners.. Vote TSR Conservative.. we really are everything you could want in a pragmatic, aspirational party.

    We are anything but dysfunctional. You have no idea how we work.

    Also make some good points about the conservatives rather than pathetic untrue comments about other parties.
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    (Original post by zedeneye1)
    where is the libertarian party manifesto ?
    At the bottom of the first post we got 'randomly' drawn last this term
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    Why so negative, Rakas? Surely the Tories have enough to be proud of rather than just relying on people not liking the other options or them simply not having enough seats?
    (Original post by Kittiara)
    Agreed. I want parties to tell voters why, exactly, we should vote for them. Not why we shouldn't vote for other parties.

    Set out your market stall and show us your wares. Otherwise you're just saying, "We don't really have anything for you here, but you should see the other lot, they're even worse!" Not a sales pitch that inspires confidence... Stand tall and be proud!
    Not negative at all, our record, our manifesto and comments in this thread speak for themselves. I was simply comparing us to other parties.

    (Original post by nebelbon)
    We are anything but dysfunctional. You have no idea how we work.

    Also make some good points about the conservatives rather than pathetic untrue comments about other parties.
    You had comments deleted for arguing with an ex member as recently as last night. That's dysfunctional.

    I did..

    The Tories meanwhile have effected green measures, reforms to EU policies, we've devolved power, we've sorted out the rail system and we've fought for your economic liberty to boot.

    Vote for a party of winners.. Vote TSR Conservative.. we really are everything you could want in a pragmatic, aspirational party.
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    (Original post by talentedlobster)
    At the bottom of the first post we got 'randomly' drawn last this term
    Was there supposed to be an image in it?
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Not negative at all, our record, our manifesto and comments in this thread speak for themselves. I was simply comparing us to other parties.
    But if you wanted to do that (and I dislike it when RL parties do so for the reasons I mentioned), why not go like, "Party A proposes X. The Conservative Party, however, would improve on this/has a better option, which is Y. We believe that this is the right way to go about it because of (reason)."

    Right now you're just pointing your finger and saying, "They're dysfunctional communist hippies who will destroy everything you hold dear!"
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    (Original post by Kittiara)
    But if you wanted to do that (and I dislike it when RL parties do so for the reasons I mentioned), why not go like, "Party A proposes X. The Conservative Party, however, would improve on this/has a better option, which is Y. We believe that this is the right way to go about it because of (reason)."

    Right now you're just pointing your finger and saying, "They're dysfunctional communist hippies who will destroy everything you hold dear!"
    It was a grand final statement not meant for analysis.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    It was a grand final statement not meant for analysis.
    I'm a PPE student. It's drilled into me to analyse everything .

    Also, politics of fear... it may be effective, but it's not a good thing!
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    (Original post by Kittiara)
    I'm a PPE student. It's drilled into me to analyse everything .

    Also, politics of fear... it may be effective, but it's not a good thing!
    Being serious i do despise the politics of fear, the best solution is always to read manifestos and come to a measured conclusion.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Not negative at all, our record, our manifesto and comments in this thread speak for themselves. I was simply comparing us to other parties.



    You had comments deleted for arguing with an ex member as recently as last night. That's dysfunctional.

    I did..
    How is that dysfunctional?

    I'm not going to stand by idly whilst people are making false comments and giving us a bad name. It's not my fault Moderation is overzealous with removing things and giving out blue cards.
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    Seeing this old poster made me think about the long-running animosity between Liberals and Labourites.

    The Social Democrats who left us all those years ago sought to find a more moderate approach to the right-wing threat. They disagreed with Labour that Social Liberals and Democratic Socialists needed to unite against the common Conservative foe and carved out their own path. Now, Liberals and Tories get in bed together but Labour Red has never danced with Tory Blue. This sad state of affairs isn't as it should be.


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