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    157
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    TSR UKIP
    88
    14.08%
    TSR Socialist Party
    58
    9.28%
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    2.24%
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    17.44%
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    Not advocating the dissolution of the Liberal Party, nor suggesting any such action.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Being serious i do despise the politics of fear, the best solution is always to read manifestos and come to a measured conclusion.
    Aye, I did take your grand statement with a pinch of salt . And I do agree.

    In the run-up to the EU elections the Lib Dems sent me a letter stating that if I didn't vote for them (the party in favour of the EU), the other parties would take us out of the EU and then I, an EU migrant, would no longer be able to live and work in the UK. That's just low. I sent them a polite but pointed email (which won't have made a difference, but it made me feel better), and I certainly didn't vote for them.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Being serious i do despise the politics of fear, the best solution is always to read manifestos and come to a measured conclusion.
    There's a very​ easy way to prove that.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Seeing this old poster made me think about the long-running animosity between Liberals and Labourites.

    The Social Democrats who left us all those years ago sought to find a more moderate approach to the right-wing threat. They disagreed with Labour that Social Liberals and Democratic Socialists needed to unite against the common Conservative foe and carved out their own path. Now, Liberals and Tories get in bed together but Labour Red has never danced with Tory Blue. This sad state of affairs isn't as it should be.


    I think the animosity is mostly overstated. Having said that, it might also have something nowadays to do with Labour's shockingly authoritarian rule in Government under Blair and Brown, with illegal wars, ID cards, the invasion of our privacy and the erosion of civil liberties through very misguided "anti-terror" measures. Labour may position itself as the anti-Tory party, but we will always be simply pro-liberty for each and every individual - a promise to which neither Labour nor the Conservatives have been able to live up.
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    I think the animosity is mostly overstated. Having said that, it might also have something nowadays to do with Labour's shockingly authoritarian rule in Government under Blair and Brown, with illegal wars, ID cards, the invasion of our privacy and the erosion of civil liberties through very misguided "anti-terror" measures. Labour may position itself as the anti-Tory party, but we will always be simply pro-liberty for each and every individual - a promise to which neither Labour nor the Conservatives have been able to live up.
    Speaking mainly about the SDP for a moment - more of their members came from the Tory party than the (original) Liberal one and they were certainly right of old school Labour - hence the split.

    Although I disagree with ID cards I wouldn't call the New Labour years 'shockingly authoritarian'. There was a terrorist threat (and there still is) and someone had to dirty their hands to do deal with it.

    Tony Wright wrote about his personal dislike for the Lib Dems, seeing them as a party who promised big because they lacked the threat of governance whilst Labour tried to do very similar things, with a split vote.

    Nonetheless, the Labour Party I shall lead will be a liberal one, clear headed and brave.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Was there supposed to be an image in it?
    The manifesto, yes there are 2 logo at the top, picture at the bottom. It's there for me.
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    Elect the Tories and get Taylor Swift nudes
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Speaking mainly about the SDP for a moment - more of their members came from the Tory party than the (original) Liberal one and they were certainly right of old school Labour - hence the split.

    Although I disagree with ID cards I wouldn't call the New Labour years 'shockingly authoritarian'. There was a terrorist threat (and there still is) and someone had to dirty their hands to do deal with it.

    Tony Wright wrote about his personal dislike for the Lib Dems, seeing them as a party who promised big because they lacked the threat of governance whilst Labour tried to do very similar things, with a split vote.

    Nonetheless, the Labour Party I shall lead will be a liberal one, clear headed and brave.
    I'm not a huge fan of the Lib Dems right now either. I think all three main RL parties have really lost their way a bit and become far too stuck to the same type of politics - the frankly broken electoral system has a lot to answer for I think. But glad to hear your Labour Party has the bravery to make such a promise, here's hoping it all comes to fruition
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Don't know whether this was deleted (for some reason the some of what I thought were binned posts are showing in the thread on my phone) but how would you respond to fixing the mass PM into the rules? I.e a 7 day period with a 10 day max poll to account for a mass PM

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    That sounds about right. The standard 7 days election time, with an extra 3 days built in to account for any delays in sending the mass PM.

    I think there must have been an error, I had about 50 quotes from you ?
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Elect the Tories and get Taylor Swift nudes
    Well if you had put that in your manifesto I may not have voted for the libers so quickly
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    I'm not a huge fan of the Lib Dems right now either. I think all three main RL parties have really lost their way a bit and become far too stuck to the same type of politics - the frankly broken electoral system has a lot to answer for I think. But glad to hear your Labour Party has the bravery to make such a promise, here's hoping it all comes to fruition
    FPTP is a blight but at the very least it keeps the nutters out.
    RL Labour disappoints me but they're not a completely lost cause. I'm glad that here on TSR I can mould the Party I hope to see in the future.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Elect the Tories and get Taylor Swift nudes
    (Original post by talentedlobster)
    Well if you had put that in your manifesto I may not have voted for the libers so quickly
    :ahee:
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Elect the Tories and get Taylor Swift nudes
    Taylor Swift- So 2013! Almost as bad as Tony Blair claiming to have seen Jackie Milburn play.
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    (Original post by talentedlobster)
    Well if you had put that in your manifesto I may not have voted for the libers so quickly
    (Original post by RayApparently)
    :ahee:
    Yes well, we didn't have them then but now we do... I'll say this... Damn :sexface:
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    (Original post by Green_Pink)
    I'm not a huge fan of the Lib Dems right now either. I think all three main RL parties have really lost their way a bit and become far too stuck to the same type of politics - the frankly broken electoral system has a lot to answer for I think. But glad to hear your Labour Party has the bravery to make such a promise, here's hoping it all comes to fruition
    Could it be that FPTP comes to rescue the RL Lib Dems when the general election comes as if it is another hung parliament does it give the LD more room to make the electoral reform a coalition red-line?
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Yes well, we didn't have them then but now we do... I'll say this... Damn :sexface:
    You can certainly count on the Conservative Party to lead an efficient election campaign :giggle:
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    (Original post by nebelbon)
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    Did you get my PM?
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Could it be that FPTP comes to rescue the RL Lib Dems when the general election comes as if it is another hung parliament does it give the LD more room to make the electoral reform a coalition red-line?
    Well that kinda makes sense - but in a very paradoxical way.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Did you get my PM?
    I'll check.

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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Taylor Swift- So 2013! Almost as bad as Tony Blair claiming to have seen Jackie Milburn play.
    She's so now actually, Shake It Off is an amazing song, her new album 1989 is set to be a chart topper, she's back
    (Original post by RayApparently)
    You can certainly count on the Conservative Party to lead an efficient election campaign :giggle:
    Well when we get something, we share, #STW
 
 
 
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