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    I don't think the "north" Scottish AFP programmes are very competitive at all. I know a lot of people who are applying for AFP in Scotland - but not ranking the Aberdeen/ Inverness jobs.

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    Does anyone know how competitive AFP in Aberdeen is? Struggling to find any data on it.
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    Does anyone have any data on EPM cut offs per region from previous years?
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Does anyone have any data on EPM cut offs per region from previous years?
    I might be wrong but I think except for London most AUoA's don't have cut-offs for the EPM. I know that many look at all applications in full and a lower EPM can be made up for with good white space answers/ extra educational achievements.
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    (Original post by KF99)
    I might be wrong but I think except for London most AUoA's don't have cut-offs for the EPM. I know that many look at all applications in full and a lower EPM can be made up for with good white space answers/ extra educational achievements.
    Marking white space answers would be so subjective though. I'm sure a lot of places will use EPM as a means of shortlisting for interview. Just hope mine is good enough...thankfully not applying to Thames.
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    (Original post by KF99)
    I don't think the "north" Scottish AFP programmes are very competitive at all. I know a lot of people who are applying for AFP in Scotland - but not ranking the Aberdeen/ Inverness jobs.
    Is there any particular reason why people aren't interested in the North Scotland AFP jobs? Or is it purely based on location? Which ones are you applying to?
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    (Original post by King Newt)
    Is there any particular reason why people aren't interested in the North Scotland AFP jobs? Or is it purely based on location? Which ones are you applying to?
    Hi, I think a fair amount of it is location, many people just don't want to move there (many in my year don't want to leave the central belt). I also think that some may not like academic jobs where there isn't a 4 month dedicated research block. There is also less research happening particularly in Inverness but there is also less in Aberdeen compared to Glasgow, Edinburgh and even Dundee. So the opportunities are likely quite limited, even for AFP students!

    I am ranking all the Edinburgh jobs first, then the Glasgow ones. I have a few rotations in mind particularly in the FY2 rotation in these AF posts that would be really beneficial for me and there are research groups I would particularly like to work with in both.

    I think I am going to 0 the Dundee and North jobs, I am from the NE of Scotland originally and love the place but for my career the opportunities I want are in the central belt at the moment. I also feel that the jobs there are very much surgery/ T&O/ EM based and the rotations really aren't ones I would want.

    What are you applying to?
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    If we get offers (e.g. for Thames), do they specify the programme you are being offered or is it simply an offer, from which if you are accepting you will find out the programme? This has significant implications if deciding between two offers at different deaneries, so I would really appreciate some information if anyone knows how it works.
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    So FPAS submitted!

    ....just have to bite my nails until interviews are released!
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    After 5 drafts, I am finally done with the my white space answers.

    Submitted my application for Thames AFP and East Anglia - Cambridge AFP! :hoppy:
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    Done.


    After a ridiculous amount of pizza and redrafting I've finally submitted!


    Oxford or Manchester *fingers crossed* :bunny: :nyan:
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    Had a meeting with my personal tutor today where we spoke about my future plans... Hadn't properly considered the AFP until now as I thought of it as "what other people do". Didn't realise how flexible and diverse it is. He mentioned it's worth me looking at example white-space questions so I can see what I'd need to start honing over the next year or so if I want to take this seriously. Does anybody have any examples of white-space questions they got asked for the AFP?

    Best of luck for all those of you submitting!
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    (Original post by purplefrog)
    Had a meeting with my personal tutor today where we spoke about my future plans... Hadn't properly considered the AFP until now as I thought of it as "what other people do". Didn't realise how flexible and diverse it is. He mentioned it's worth me looking at example white-space questions so I can see what I'd need to start honing over the next year or so if I want to take this seriously. Does anybody have any examples of white-space questions they got asked for the AFP?

    Best of luck for all those of you submitting!
    I can tell you the ones from Scotland for this year:

    1. Please describe your involvement in research to date. Describe up to 2 research projects you have been involved with. What part did you play in planning, undertaking and presenting this research?

    2.Describe your involvement in teaching in at least 2 different settings. Explain how you learned to be a teacher and how this has influenced your teaching to different types of students. Outline an example that you consider to be best practice.

    3.Please describe your experiences as a team leader. Describe up to 2 of your leadership roles. What did you gain from these experiences?

    4.Please explain why you think that Scotland is the right place for your future academic training, giving at least 2 reasons why you think it will benefit your future carer.

    Unfortunately I didn't take a note of any other AUoA ones!
    But I hope that gives you an example of what sort of areas are asked.

    What sort of AFP do you think might suit you?

    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE who has applied for this year!
    Anyone know what sort of time interviews are announced? (getting ahead of myself, I know )
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    (Original post by purplefrog)
    Had a meeting with my personal tutor today where we spoke about my future plans... Hadn't properly considered the AFP until now as I thought of it as "what other people do". Didn't realise how flexible and diverse it is. He mentioned it's worth me looking at example white-space questions so I can see what I'd need to start honing over the next year or so if I want to take this seriously. Does anybody have any examples of white-space questions they got asked for the AFP?

    Best of luck for all those of you submitting!
    For Y&H it was q's like give an example where you received feedback, how it was given, and how it changed your future practice. then it asked to give an example on MDT teamwork when discharging a patient and to reflect on the experience. last question was to describe the different types of academic research while giving examples of what you've done.

    For Severn the questions were more straightforward. Asked to outline reasons for doing afp, previous research experience, experience as a teacher, exp as a leader/manager, and a q asking for an example of a non-academic achievement that will be significant to your AFP.
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    Thank you both! Super helpful. BSc year set me on the right path for a lot of these (both due to research project and extra-curriculars taken on)

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    What sort of AFP do you think might suit you?
    I quite like the sound of one of the teaching/education ones. Only taken a gander at a few places and sadly my uni's deanery doesn't do one of that nature - but Scotland and KCL look cool... Like the idea that there will be protected time to research and teach. How about you?
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    (Original post by KF99)
    Hi, I think a fair amount of it is location, many people just don't want to move there (many in my year don't want to leave the central belt). I also think that some may not like academic jobs where there isn't a 4 month dedicated research block. There is also less research happening particularly in Inverness but there is also less in Aberdeen compared to Glasgow, Edinburgh and even Dundee. So the opportunities are likely quite limited, even for AFP students!

    I am ranking all the Edinburgh jobs first, then the Glasgow ones. I have a few rotations in mind particularly in the FY2 rotation in these AF posts that would be really beneficial for me and there are research groups I would particularly like to work with in both.

    I think I am going to 0 the Dundee and North jobs, I am from the NE of Scotland originally and love the place but for my career the opportunities I want are in the central belt at the moment. I also feel that the jobs there are very much surgery/ T&O/ EM based and the rotations really aren't ones I would want.

    What are you applying to?
    Hi! Thanks for the info. I had a closer look into the programmes and decided I preferred the ones with a 4 month block allocated for research. Not really sure how the one day a week thing would go! I really liked some of the Aberdeen AFP tracks, but decided on East Anglia and Oxford in the end. I imagine I have little chance of an interview, based on previous threads, but at least I tried! Will probably do Edinburgh Surg sciences masters if I don't get AFP. Tbh, not getting AFP isn't the end of the world. As long as you're somewhere with the specialty/research you're interested in, I'm sure there is scope for getting involved!
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    (Original post by purplefrog)
    I quite like the sound of one of the teaching/education ones. Only taken a gander at a few places and sadly my uni's deanery doesn't do one of that nature - but Scotland and KCL look cool... Like the idea that there will be protected time to research and teach. How about you?
    In the end I only applied for the Scottish AFP, it is where I want to be and has some perfect rotations for me, and I figured if I didn't get Scotland AFP Oxford was very unlikely! I can also have some flexibility later on with the FY2 jobs not being liked and always change to more teaching if I fancy, and there are some research groups that I would really like to work with

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    Hi! Thanks for the info. I had a closer look into the programmes and decided I preferred the ones with a 4 month block allocated for research. Not really sure how the one day a week thing would go! I really liked some of the Aberdeen AFP tracks, but decided on East Anglia and Oxford in the end. I imagine I have little chance of an interview, based on previous threads, but at least I tried! Will probably do Edinburgh Surg sciences masters if I don't get AFP. Tbh, not getting AFP isn't the end of the world. As long as you're somewhere with the specialty/research you're interested in, I'm sure there is scope for getting involved!
    Good luck for Oxford and East Anglia , I considered Oxford but (as above) decided it wasn't really worth the stress to be a back up plan for Scotland!

    Do you know anyone who has done the distance MSc courses at Edinburgh during FY? I'm tempted by the teaching or internal medicine ones, but I don't know anyone who has done them and would be worried of taking on too much during what I am sure is going to be a rather stressful time anyway!
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    (Original post by KF99)
    In the end I only applied for the Scottish AFP, it is where I want to be and has some perfect rotations for me, and I figured if I didn't get Scotland AFP Oxford was very unlikely! I can also have some flexibility later on with the FY2 jobs not being liked and always change to more teaching if I fancy, and there are some research groups that I would really like to work with



    Good luck for Oxford and East Anglia , I considered Oxford but (as above) decided it wasn't really worth the stress to be a back up plan for Scotland!

    Do you know anyone who has done the distance MSc courses at Edinburgh during FY? I'm tempted by the teaching or internal medicine ones, but I don't know anyone who has done them and would be worried of taking on too much during what I am sure is going to be a rather stressful time anyway!
    Thanks! I do know a couple of people who are doing the Edinburgh surgical sciences masters. They are both really struggling for time to do it. One of them in particular is a very hard working person, so it's a bit worrying that even she isn't coping with it! It's quite an expensive yr if you don't manage to complete it.. I wonder if there are any stats on how many people actually complete it?!
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    (Original post by King Newt)
    Thanks! I do know a couple of people who are doing the Edinburgh surgical sciences masters. They are both really struggling for time to do it. One of them in particular is a very hard working person, so it's a bit worrying that even she isn't coping with it! It's quite an expensive yr if you don't manage to complete it.. I wonder if there are any stats on how many people actually complete it?!
    That is pretty worrying! It would be a lot of money to waste. I shall see if I can find stats on pass rates anywhere.
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    (Original post by KF99)
    That is pretty worrying! It would be a lot of money to waste. I shall see if I can find stats on pass rates anywhere.
    I guess you just have to make the most of days off and annual leave. Though it does require about 8 study hrs a week or something. Sounds like a really good course, and very useful for MRCS exams too. I'll let you know if I find out any more info!
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    (Original post by King Newt)
    I guess you just have to make the most of days off and annual leave. Though it does require about 8 study hrs a week or something. Sounds like a really good course, and very useful for MRCS exams too. I'll let you know if I find out any more info!
    Thanks King Newt, I shall update you if I find out anything useful too
 
 
 
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