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    (Original post by NaTaLiiA513)
    I am simply trying to tell you that women who are dressed in a sense that reveals so much of their body are a temptation for predators and psychos.
    It is true that men (and women!) should be taught not to rape but women should be cautious as well so they don't attract unwanted attention.


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    Sorry but I disagree with the essence of what's being said here. Surely the predators and psychos are the problem, not the way women dress?
    Of course practically i understand that everyone should act in order to be as safe as possible, however women (and men) still get raped if they're dressed appropriately and in my opinion if i were to get raped whilst walking down the street naked i should not get be 'blamed' because rape is crime regardless of anything else. Just the same as murder is murder even if the victim was a criminal
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    (Original post by TallerThanSmall)
    That's kind of beside the point. The point is, we create a cultural narrative in which all the burden is placed upon the women to not be raped - they shouldn't dress like that, they shouldn't drink that much, they shouldn't have been walking alone - and much, much less dialogue is put into trying to get men not to rape people. And women are then implicitly blamed for 'not taking enough care' or 'tempting the man' or whatever. The problem here is not with the victims - they're victims of one of the worst crimes we have on the books! The problem is with with rapists.
    Yeah problem is with the rapist, but why risk it? I don't see a rapist detector invented yet.
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    (Original post by Jgco2chem)
    Yeah problem is with the rapist, but why risk it? I don't see a rapist detector invented yet.
    That's like saying, 'Well, this guy was brutally murdered, but you know what? He wasn't wearing any Kevlar. He shouldn't have taken the risk.' No, there is indeed no rapist detector in existence, but that does not mean women are somehow failing in their duty in such a way we should dedicate a whole thread to pointing it out, just because they're wearing shorts and a crop top. This isn't an aside of how women can make themselves safer; a lot of the time, this is the crux of the discussion, and that's a little bit messed-up.
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    there is virtually no correlation between women who are raped having been wearing revealing clothing, so you can throw that crappy argument out of the window to start with.
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    (Original post by NaTaLiiA513)
    women who are dressed in a sense that reveals so much of their body are a temptation for predators and psychos.
    you mean, we should protect predators and psychos from this intolerable provocation, and take strong measures so as not to expose them to immoral temptation by these alluring vixen ?

    how kindly and considerate of you. I doubt however that predators and psychos will be very grateful.
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    Am I the only one here who realises that wherever you go, your clothes send off a message about you as a person?...

    ...No?

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    (Original post by Jgco2chem)
    Yeah problem is with the rapist, but why risk it? I don't see a rapist detector invented yet.
    What if a rapist picked a victim by hair colour or eye colour, does that mean those people with those colour eyes or hair are being irresponsible? Are tempting fate?

    No it doesn't.

    At the end of the day, a rapist does what he or she does because there is something wrong with him/her mentally. The normal barrier or awareness that non-rapists grow up with and the way they rationalise laws and rules are different to the way in which rapists obviously view things.

    If someone is a rapist, you could be wearing a sack over your body and there could be 'something' about you that would attract the predator. You can't protect against it, if you could then there wouldn't be crimes of rape each day.

    So saying that dressing less provocatively will decrease rape is not true, you can't protect against something as invisible as someones will, or pre-empt it by wearing a sack (probably a better word that protect). To ask women to do that is unfair, stressful and basically decreasing their quality of life, and its not fair!

    But why the focus on women being more pro-active, more vigilant?(Don't go out running alone. Don't walk alone by yourself. Don't wear provacative clothing. Always watch your drink)....because it's the cheaper alternative to constantly tracking released rapists or re-offenders, it's the cheaper option to keeping those most likely to re-offend in prison. At the end of the day, like most crimes, the punishment is merely a slap on the hand, there is no incentive to follow laws. Especially when cops tell you, 'well really, are you sure you said no? Maybe you led him on." Even those meant to protect us....don't. And if you are the type of person who has loose morals, or low moral integrity what is there to stop you?

    If rape was something that statistically affected men to a greater extent than women, i bet those in power would suddenly perk up and take an interest. Mind you, I say that, and child abuse is still a disgustingly high stat in this country.

    You want someone to point a finger at? Don't point it at women and tell them to restrict their lives, change their social habits, don't wear what they like, always be nervous about talking to men and suspicious of drinks....because our government doesn't have a budget to sort out this type of behaviour or take it more seriously.

    Social concepts have some of this behaviour partly to blame. I mean if you can watch a porn video of a bunch of blokes basically ......and the women is made to be shown as loving it?? Then what are blokes to think....realistically yeah they should know that its wrong in real life, but how many people analyse daily stuff that closely?

    The blame should be placed with the government that allows the type of behaviour to carry on, allow that type of media to be published, etc etc. The type of government that puts a plaster on a wound and blathers on reassuringly about how things will be better in the future. They should be made to take responsibility for those who prey on others. Sort out the route problems and the nation will be healthier. Plaster on temporary measures and one day all the wounds are gonna show at the same time.
    And unfortunately I'm of the opinion currently that, women and crimes against them are classed as a minority problem because lets face it, most people in power are men, so it's not like the problem directly effects them. (In no way am i clumping all men together and saying they don't care or that they condone rape!!!..but...I do think that its due to some men in power today that the seriousness of the crime is still something viewed as 'he said/she said', rather than 'thats a crime.'

    Rant over.
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    (Original post by Jgco2chem)
    I'm not complaining, I find that 50 years a go woman wouldn't dress like that but now they do, what's influenced them to think dressing more and more revealing is MOVING FORWARD.
    It's moving forwards because they get to make the choice.

    They can go out wearing high-heels and a mini skirt or a three piece suit, it's their choice, one which may not have been accepted 50 years ago.
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    (Original post by DasSnipez)
    It's moving forwards because they get to make the choice.

    They can go out wearing high-heels and a mini skirt or a three piece suit, it's their choice, one which may not have been accepted 50 years ago.
    Today there's hardly a choice the normal clothes shop purposely sells revealing clothes, clothes that are tight... the clothes on sale give women no choice but to accept it, thinking this is the way forward this is norm to dress to satisfy male desires, people in society find it weird to cover up..hence alien attitude towards hijabs/burkhas
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    Some just like to dress that way while some are just attention whores. I'm a guy and I don't think I'd ever dress as revealing as a lot of girls do. It just seems so odd. Oh and lol at the whole 'media/cultural pressure' excuse , I some people aren't that easily pressured into doing stuff just because the media tells them to.
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    Because they can wear what they want you neckbeard virgin

    Plus I like it when they show off dat ass
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    (Original post by arkhamz)
    Some just like to dress that way while some are just attention whores. I'm a guy and I don't think I'd ever dress as revealing as a lot of girls do. It just seems so odd. Oh and lol at the whole 'media/cultural pressure' excuse , I some people aren't that easily pressured into doing stuff just because the media tells them to.
    the thing is that the media and magazines dictate what goes in the high street shops. i find it difficult sometimes when i go shopping to find something that isn't revealing. like, i want a dress that hasn't got a huge hole in the back, what's up with that trend? river island is the worst.
    not that i go shopping often mind, because it just makes me feel fat.
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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    the thing is that the media and magazines dictate what goes in the high street shops. i find it difficult sometimes when i go shopping to find something that isn't revealing. like, i want a dress that hasn't got a huge hole in the back, what's up with that trend? river island is the worst.
    not that i go shopping often mind, because it just makes me feel fat.
    I have no clue, why would ANYONEwant a big hole in the back of their dress anyway? It's bizarre. There has to be some good online shops though. I'm so glad ASOS is a thing.

    That sucks, how come?
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    (Original post by arkhamz)
    Some just like to dress that way while some are just attention whores. I'm a guy and I don't think I'd ever dress as revealing as a lot of girls do. It just seems so odd. Oh and lol at the whole 'media/cultural pressure' excuse , I some people aren't that easily pressured into doing stuff just because the media tells them to.
    People, in general, are ludicrously easy to influence, even under specified 'lab' conditions. In the real world, where such messages are so extremely ubiquitous and ever-present it's really anything but surprising the amount of people who are pressured into things they don't necessarily want to do (consciously or not).
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    (Original post by arkhamz)
    I have no clue, why would ANYONEwant a big hole in the back of their dress anyway? It's bizarre. There has to be some good online shops though. I'm so glad ASOS is a thing.

    That sucks, how come?
    Because most high street fashion shops cater to tiny sizes, especially H&M.
    if i do have to go shopping i normally go to M&S.
    torn jeans is my other big one. i feel like taking them to the counter and saying "excuse me, there's a hole in these jeans, you should get it repaired".
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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    Because most high street fashion shops cater to tiny sizes, especially H&M.
    if i do have to go shopping i normally go to M&S.
    torn jeans is my other big one. i feel like taking them to the counter and saying "excuse me, there's a hole in these jeans, you should get it repaired".
    Haha, I totally agree with you on that one. Torn jeans make no sense whatsoever.
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    (Original post by Jgco2chem)
    ???
    What may be revealing to one may not be revealing to another.
    Let people dress in the style they wish
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    Classless. I like my girls burka'd up ak47 in hand.
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    Some girls dress like this because they feel like it is the only way to fit in with over sexualised society. There are constantly copped tops on celebrity idolised films and young girls who look up to these individuals will start to copy them.
    Some girls just follow the crowd of what all the other girls are wearing, which is a shame.
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    They can dress how they want.
 
 
 
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