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    You can buy a beast of a laptop for the same price as a Macbook
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    Ok, for £1,330, you could buy

    - My first car (£925) plus a semi-decent (£405) laptop (assuming you don't want to use it for gaming - which as you're buying a Mac, you don't).
    - A very decent (£630) custom-built desktop PC and a decent laptop (£700).
    - Live (excluding rent) on £50/week for half a year.

    There are so many better options, so long as you just do some research.
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    (Original post by Choppie)
    Ok, for £1,330, you could buy

    - My first car (£925) plus a semi-decent (£405) laptop (assuming you don't want to use it for gaming - which as you're buying a Mac, you don't).
    - A very decent (£630) custom-built desktop PC and a decent laptop (£700).
    - Live (excluding rent) on £50/week for half a year.

    There are so many better options, so long as you just do some research.
    But could you get a laptop that is comparable to a Macbook?

    I want a laptop that is well built, lightweight, great battery life, decent specs and has a reliable OS.

    Everyone posts 'ooo you'd be so stupid to buy one you can get the same specs half price' and yes you can the get same RAM, processor, harddrive etc for much much less, but you cannot get a more user friendly machine for less.

    I want a laptop I can buy that will do everything I want in the most enjoyable manner.

    It's why I've got an iPhone, it's why I'll be getting myself a Macbook in a couple of pay days.
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    Go to PC Specialist.

    13.3" Optimus V

    Select the cheapest i7 quad core
    Select 16GB Ram
    Select 120GB SSD and 1TB conventional hard drive combi drive thing from WD

    So you get a better screen, a better processor, more ram and more storage space
    You save 500 quid.
    Did i say it was lighter too.
    The build quality is spot on. the amount of times I've dropped a laptop from the same makers is beyond daft and all I have are a few dents in the case.


    As for Mac being an easier user interface to use than Windows? You're joking right.
    Oh and as for Windows machines being less reliable then mac.....where I work there are 2/3 mechanical machines that run on a windows operating system. These machines cost in excess of a million pounds and are the best the industry has to offer. So reliability? I think windows takes that crown there. Mac`s just don't crash in the same way as windows machines due to the way they are programmed. They still crash and a lot more then Iv'e had windows machines crash on me. Simply put people dont consider it so much a crash. But ive had hours of work die on me with a mac.

    So to round up. The machine I listed will do everything and more then the mac will do. The only thing it wont do is rinse your wallet so much. But if that's what you want to do then crack on.
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    (Original post by Choppie)
    Ok, for £1,330, you could buy

    - My first car (£925) plus a semi-decent (£405) laptop (assuming you don't want to use it for gaming - which as you're buying a Mac, you don't).
    - A very decent (£630) custom-built desktop PC and a decent laptop (£700).
    - Live (excluding rent) on £50/week for half a year.

    There are so many better options, so long as you just do some research.
    None of those options give you a MacBook though. Going back to that portability argument, a desktop can only be used part of the time if it's tied to one room, so for most people they'd be better putting more money into a really good laptop.

    Also, if saving money is so important, then why are you driving? The cost of running a car far outstrips an expensive computer.
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    (Original post by jameswhughes)
    None of those options give you a MacBook though. Going back to that portability argument, a desktop can only be used part of the time if it's tied to one room, so for most people they'd be better putting more money into a really good laptop.

    Also, if saving money is so important, then why are you driving? The cost of running a car far outstrips an expensive computer.
    If I didn't have a car I don't know about you but i think it would prioritize that over a higher specification laptop!
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    (Original post by Opts)
    If you are hell bent on going with an apple, which I believe is the wrong decision - but each to their own. *Apples and Oranges* - terrible pun.

    For minor photo editing and CAD work you don't really need the higher spec that the Pro gives. Much better off getting an Air with a larger display, looks more aesthetic and will still come out cheaper.

    Your choice though No point paying hundreds more for specs and hardware that you won't be using.
    Actually, that's incorrect dear sir, same size display(13") but the pro has the better screen in general, Not hell bent, I'd go another way, it'd just have OS X on it within an hour. I agree with the asthetics, also has the larger battery life.... Again with price, after the 8GB upgrade and 256Gb SSD options there wouldn't be major amounts of differnce...



    (Original post by VannR)
    I'm imagining that you like Mac OS X already, but here's my thought on actually buying a Mac:

    If you want the best specs, buy an Intel Ultrabook and set up a Hackintosh - you'll end up with better than a Mac specs for less money; if you want it to come in a (slightly) prettier box than an Ultrabook, buy a Mac.
    That obvious huh, Mac's are beautiful, and the specs are good enough for my needs... Thanks for the input


    (Original post by AbdulKoyes)
    You can buy a beast of a laptop for the same price as a Macbook
    True, I could get 880M's for that price, But bearing in mind it'd be getting lugged around UNI 6 days a week, plus other places including the train. Something heavy,bulky and puts out immense heat isn't exactly ideal


    (Original post by Choppie)
    Ok, for £1,330, you could buy

    - My first car (£925) plus a semi-decent (£405) laptop (assuming you don't want to use it for gaming - which as you're buying a Mac, you don't).
    - A very decent (£630) custom-built desktop PC and a decent laptop (£700).
    - Live (excluding rent) on £50/week for half a year.

    There are so many better options, so long as you just do some research.
    Good Input (Rep Given)
    - Already have a Car, Already have a custom built PC (4790K/16GB Ram/780 ACX Cooler in an ITX Case, AND YES! RUNNING OSX) True, Thanks for the input...



    (Original post by Sam Walters)
    Go to PC Specialist.

    13.3" Optimus V

    Select the cheapest i7 quad core
    Select 16GB Ram
    Select 120GB SSD and 1TB conventional hard drive combi drive thing from WD

    So you get a better screen, a better processor, more ram and more storage space
    You save 500 quid.
    Did i say it was lighter too.
    The build quality is spot on. the amount of times I've dropped a laptop from the same makers is beyond daft and all I have are a few dents in the case.


    As for Mac being an easier user interface to use than Windows? You're joking right.
    Oh and as for Windows machines being less reliable then mac.....where I work there are 2/3 mechanical machines that run on a windows operating system. These machines cost in excess of a million pounds and are the best the industry has to offer. So reliability? I think windows takes that crown there. Mac`s just don't crash in the same way as windows machines due to the way they are programmed. They still crash and a lot more then Iv'e had windows machines crash on me. Simply put people dont consider it so much a crash. But ive had hours of work die on me with a mac.

    So to round up. The machine I listed will do everything and more then the mac will do. The only thing it wont do is rinse your wallet so much. But if that's what you want to do then crack on.
    Hmmm, Interesting Idea, WIll certainly check that out now, thanks mate.... Hmm, never said EASIER, Said simpler, I like everything being right there in front of me on OSX. more of a personal hatred for windows, can honestly say if OSX was banished I'd go to linux before windows.....

    Will Definitley have a gander onto there website, thanks mate.


    So to sum up, Thankyou for all your input, I will make sure to have a look at that website (Thanks Dude) However if it doesn't spark my interest I will be at the local Apple store first thing tommorow.... I know alot of you don't agree so here are my reasons.

    - Asthetics, The aluminium uni-body is a work of art, no one can dispute that...
    - Build quaility, They do seem to last a while...
    - Thinness, Yes I know there are Ultrabooks out there that are slimmer, But they come close to the same price with similar specs, And I'd only have to shell out for OSX for it anyway.
    - OSX in built, don't have to pay £££ for software before I even start using it.
    - Battery life, I honestly haven't seen many Ultrabooks with the same battery life as the Macbook, Same specs and cheaper, I just haven't.
    - I can afford it.

    For those of you that agree with me, Decided I could do with an extra charger, gunna get a magic mouse aswell as a few various cables I need.... Gunna get the Pro Retina 13" I think, By the time I've done what I wanted to teh AIR it'd be getting close to the price anyway.... Probably looking at £1600 with Education discount....

    THANKYOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT!!! Even the snotty, gobby, incorrect buggers among you
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    I just really don't understand why non-media people buy Macboks. They're no good for gaming, and all that extra processing power is really not helping achieve... anything. You're paying an extra £500 for a nice case and an overrated OS.

    My Dell XPS is still running great 4 years on (well, the battery has degraded because I have it on charge all the time), but it still runs stuff like League of Legends at 60fps, and the aluminium build is great - only cost me £500!
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    (Original post by Sam Walters)
    If I didn't have a car I don't know about you but i think it would prioritize that over a higher specification laptop!
    Why? Laptops are far more essential than cars these days, especially for students and young people. With the cost of running a car going into thousands of pounds a year, these figures absolutely dwarf the cost of a Mac.
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    (Original post by jameswhughes)
    Why? Laptops are far more essential than cars these days, especially for students and young people. With the cost of running a car going into thousands of pounds a year, these figures absolutely dwarf the cost of a Mac.
    Precisley, Your insurance each year (Under 20s) is the same price as a mac, let alone the rest of it
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    Lenovo Y50

    • Processor:
      Intel Core i7-4710HQ Processor( 2.50GHz 1600MHz 6MB)
    • Operating system:
      Windows 8.1 64
    • System Graphics:
      NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 4GB
    • Total memory:
      16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    • Display type:
      15.6" Ultra HD IPS Glare LED Backlit 3840x2160
    • Hard drive device:
      512GB SSD
    • Optical device:
      DVD Recordable (external)
    • Battery:
      4 Cell Li-Polymer
    • Network card:
      Lenovo BGN Wireless
    • Bluetooth:
      Bluetooth Version 4.0


    Price: 1399 quid.

    tl;dr - better CPU, better RAM, better hard drive and probably better display as well, considering the GPU and the resolution. Oh, wait, better price too. Oh, and it can run pretty much every piece of software as well. If you want to waste your money, you can always do it by purchasing an Apple product

    Edit: I just researched the max resolution of a Macbook Pro and it is 2880x1800. Judge for yourself which one has better resolution.
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    Macs arnt even good for media anymore either.....eeek
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    (Original post by geoking)
    Are you doing video editing, photo editing or iOS development? No? Then just get a normal laptop for £500, and spend £1000 on hookers and blow. :cool:
    If you're really going to be doing any serious work surely the advice is: get a desktop.
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    Given how much you ***** and moan about how bad everything that isn't apple is, or more specifically everything M$, this thread seems to be a rather pointless one as, clearly having read it, nothing is going to sway you and you'd made your mind up before you even made this thread, as such is seems to me that it might just be an attempt to start a M$ vs Apple thread (despite being against the Tech and comp rules).
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Given how much you ***** and moan about how bad everything that isn't apple is, or more specifically everything M$, this thread seems to be a rather pointless one as, clearly having read it, nothing is going to sway you and you'd made your mind up before you even made this thread, as such is seems to me that it might just be an attempt to start a M$ vs Apple thread (despite being against the Tech and comp rules).
    Actually, I'm Looking into Sam Walters post about the Pc Specalist Line.... Considering I'd have had my Mac by now and loving clearly I hadn't already made up my mind.... I only "***** and moan" about how bad Microsoft is, I have no problem with intel ultrabook! Microsoft Vs Apple would just end up in a giant gangbang and would be pointless, I am aware of the rules, Hence Why I haven't created one...
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    So After looking Into Sam Walters Idea, They really are very good there! Think I might get my next desktop from there, Like the prices and the finance option I still feel for my needs the Mac is the best option at current, However, taking into account all of you saying "Blah Blah Blah Can't actually remember " I went with The Macbook Air 13" instead

    Thanks for your help....
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    (Original post by jameswhughes)
    Why? Laptops are far more essential than cars these days, especially for students and young people. With the cost of running a car going into thousands of pounds a year, these figures absolutely dwarf the cost of a Mac.
    Yes but a £400 laptop could do everything 99% of Mac book pro owners need it for.

    I know I would be un the creek without a car. It would add two hours to my working day every day without one.
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    (Original post by Sam Walters)
    Yes but a £400 laptop could do everything 99% of Mac book pro owners need it for.

    I know I would be un the creek without a car. It would add two hours to my working day every day without one.
    Yes I agree, Some people need the car more than a portable, well built, long battery life mac. But considering I live 5 minutes from UNI, 10 from the train station and about 3 seconds from work a car isn't important to me, I have use of a car if I ever need one, (Me and 2 mates bought one and split the insurance/Finance costs), but I rarely use it.
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    (Original post by Godzilla123)
    Lenovo Y50

    • Processor:
      Intel Core i7-4710HQ Processor( 2.50GHz 1600MHz 6MB)
    • Operating system:
      Windows 8.1 64
    • System Graphics:
      NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 4GB
    • Total memory:
      16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    • Display type:
      15.6" Ultra HD IPS Glare LED Backlit 3840x2160
    • Hard drive device:
      512GB SSD
    • Optical device:
      DVD Recordable (external)
    • Battery:
      4 Cell Li-Polymer
    • Network card:
      Lenovo BGN Wireless
    • Bluetooth:
      Bluetooth Version 4.0


    Price: 1399 quid.

    tl;dr - better CPU, better RAM, better hard drive and probably better display as well, considering the GPU and the resolution. Oh, wait, better price too. Oh, and it can run pretty much every piece of software as well. If you want to waste your money, you can always do it by purchasing an Apple product

    Edit: I just researched the max resolution of a Macbook Pro and it is 2880x1800. Judge for yourself which one has better resolution.
    Can you link me to this please?
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    Oh Ryan, if only you could shag OS X, huh? Would solve all your problems.
 
 
 
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