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    (Original post by Louise_1988)
    Well in WW2 (which I think is what you are suggesting) we did stand around for ages and watch. If i'm not mistaken Hitler came to power in 1933, in 1936(?) moved his troops back into the Rhineland area. In 1939 he then tore up the munich Agreement and moved his forces into Wester Czechoslovakia. Many historians agree that when Hitler first moved his troops into the Rhineland area if Britian was to stop him, it would have been easily done, but they stood by and watched for 3 years in which time Hitler has time to build up a strong army. Switzerland also stood by and watched but did not get invloved in the fighting and as a result prospered. It was not the best example, but it is certainly relevent to show that being neutral is often(though not always) the safest bet.
    The Swiss had to fight for their freedom and their independence right from the start. That's why they have always had -and still have- national service. The Swiss army is organised so that they can call up 1000's of reservists in very little time, should their country be threatened. They are neutral because as a small country, they don't want to have to fight for other people's interests and sacrifice their assets for it. The only time they want to use their army is when their country is attacked and it's structured accordingly.

    Hitler had planned to invide Switzerland, but the Swiss had prepared their defence very well and the sheer number of troops they could call up was enough to dissuade Hitler from attacking as he could not have opened yet another front at the time. The Swiss only escaped attack because they were ready for war. However, Switzerland would not have "prospered" at all if Britain and the Allies had not attacked Germany. Hitler would have invaded Switzerland if he had been able to.

    The reason why Britain did not stop Hitler at the time (apart from various political reasons) was that the British army had still not recovered from WWI and was totally overstretched because the Empire had reached its greatest extension. That, along with low defence budgets, kept Britain from going into the Rhineland. That's why we need professional forces which can be deployed very quickly in order to control crises effectively. And that costs money.

    Si vis pacem, para bellum. (If you want peace, prepare for war).
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    (Original post by Speciez99)
    Considering he had already conquerored all of france and was attacking Britain and the fact the swiss dont have an army would suggest he wasnt going to try and invade.
    Hitler didn't declare war on Britian, Britain declared war on Him in 1939 after he did not pull he troops out. It has been suggested that Hitler did not ever intend to invade Britain, he was always more interested in Russia.
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    (Original post by Louise_1988)
    Hitler didn't declare war on Britian, Britain declared war on Him in 1939 after he did not pull he troops out. It has been suggested that Hitler did not ever intend to invade Britain, he was always more interested in Russia.
    That's true to a certain extent. Britain declared war on Germany in 1939 after Hitler invaded Poland. There is strong evidence to suggest that Hitler had no wish to go to war with Britain.
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    (Original post by Louise_1988)
    Hitler didn't declare war on Britian, Britain declared war on Him in 1939 after he did not pull he troops out. It has been suggested that Hitler did not ever intend to invade Britain, he was always more interested in Russia.
    In fact, it was Hitler's to have Britain as an ally. He imagined Britain as being the European sea power and the Reich as the land power. He only attacked Britain after its refusal to accept his peace offer, because he wanted to have a "quiet" Western front so he could concentrate fully on Russia.
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    (Original post by Louise_1988)
    Hitler didn't declare war on Britian, Britain declared war on Him in 1939 after he did not pull he troops out. It has been suggested that Hitler did not ever intend to invade Britain, he was always more interested in Russia.
    i didnt say anything that goes what you just said so i dont quite know what your point is?
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    spending on UK defence is so small no service battleships were available to take part in the forthcoming Normandy remembrance spectacle. Germany cut military spending by 20billion last year and these are the largest military powers on our continent.
    Perhaps they are altering the budget to enable the expansion. Then about 20 years or so later or when the new members become better then we could spend more on defence then? I'd say start getting into defence if and when Russia has signed up. Would like to see America's reaction lol

    Just a thought.........
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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    Perhaps they are altering the budget to enable the expansion. Then about 20 years or so later or when the new members become better then we could spend more on defence then? I'd say start getting into defence if and when Russia has signed up. Would like to see America's reaction lol

    Just a thought.........
    correct me if im wrong but did you say wait 20 years?
 
 
 
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