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Arctic Monkeys, rant!

Reply 20

i didnt like them before it was cool to not like them. come to think of it, i didnt like them before it was cool to like them too.

¬_¬.

sheffield has great music. that music isnt arctic monkeys. or milburn. or little man tate.

Reply 21

Invocation

12

I like them :smile:

Reply 22

zertrudetrout

benisright

Crap album in your opinion, but that doesnt make it a crap album in everyones opinion..

conversely, good in your opinion doesnt make it a good album in everyones opinion. if youre going to go round saying that this is a good album, don't make this ridiculous point.

benisright

Did you listen to the EP that they released?! Its so unradio friendly its obvious it wasnt about money. Im happy that they are releasing new stuff, if you or anyone else dont like it, dont buy it. But the more new stuff the better...

haha, yes, obviously not about money. this from the band that hired a promotion team before they were even signed to give them that "internet is the future of music" gimmick which attracted the popular press to them in the first place. you go round asking for opinions and then come out with the classic "if you dont like it dont listen" crap

benisright

They are not crap.

They are! I thought they'd killed the rest of the pub rock bores in 2002...

Reply 23

Dav'

What little respect i had for them disappeared after there performance at Leeds Fest. this year. Absolutely terrible.

Reply 24

bobbob

11

I do think the album got a lot more positive press than it deserves. Sure, it was okay catchy pop but the album was very samey and hardly life-changing genius that you'd expect from the hype and sales. They're a one trick pony, and that trick isn't going to keep people impressed for very long. The amount of airplay their songs get is insane and I can honestly see why people who were indifferent dislike them, because they're absolutely everywhere.

That said, I don't hate them and I feel bad giving anyone with success on Domino negative press, hired PR team or not.

Reply 25

LostRiot

14

At the end of the day, they're obviously not crap, there is very little music which is completely crap, chico perhaps, but most of the crap music in the world hasn't really been heard by many people most music appeals to someone. Disliking a genre of music doesn't make every album in it crap.

So, given that they're not 'crap and over-rated', that leaves just over-rated, which they most certainly are! Certain sections of the music press for example NME said they were better than the beatles! Now, in 20 years time if arctic monkeys have sold millions of albums, had numerous number ones all over the world and been influencial to millions of people then sure thats fine, but really, better than the beatles.

They do seem to have their feet on the ground though, and obviously realise that all this extra hype is doing no one any good, the release of the EP was obviously to insure they didn't get 3 number ones in a row, and leaving before the lights come on was hardly promoted at all.

IMO, if they can pull off a decent second album, which manages to apply alex's quirky lyrics to the new situations they're finding themselves in (ie. not. drinking cider on the green) they will do well, I'm not really that sure they will be able to though, some of the songs on the EP were pretty crap! :smile:

Reply 26

mipmapped

13

NME said they were better than the beatles!

I think sane people tend to avoid NME and its opinions at all cost.

Reply 27

zertrudetrout

LostRiot

At the end of the day, they're obviously not crap, there is very little music which is completely crap, chico perhaps,

chico is one of thr greatest pioneers of this century, arctic monkeys are crap!

Reply 28

KieranP

benisright

Crap album in your opinion, but that doesnt make it a crap album in everyones opinion.

People have different opinions!? Well stop the press Jimmy boy, we've found ourselves a new headline!

n u c l e a r b d h

Hehehe, yet another 'I hate people who complain about...' complaint. Genius.

I do love it when people get really worked up about you insulting a band, and then complain about you "not respecting their opinion", bonus points if they actually insult people who don't like the band, or say "you might not like the music, but you've got to respect their talent". This isn't quite that, but it's close.

LostRiot

At the end of the day, they're obviously not crap, there is very little music which is completely crap, chico perhaps, but most of the crap music in the world hasn't really been heard by many people most music appeals to someone. Disliking a genre of music doesn't make every album in it crap.

Well, y'see, a crap album is one that you don't enjoy listening to. So disliking an entire genre pretty much does make every album in it crap to you. Of course, one could argue that certain sound elements are more objective than others, and one can appreciate a band are good at what they set out to do, without actually liking said music.

That is, the way the arctic monkeys are crap is different to the way a local band who can't play their instruments, with a singer who's out of key, etc, is crap. Fond as I am of making such judgements, I'm not sure such a division is really workable, at least not as a black/white thing. It's still subjective, but there are some musical standards we can all agree on.

LostRiot

So, given that they're not 'crap and over-rated', that leaves just over-rated, which they most certainly are! Certain sections of the music press for example NME said they were better than the beatles! Now, in 20 years time if arctic monkeys have sold millions of albums, had numerous number ones all over the world and been influencial to millions of people then sure thats fine, but really, better than the beatles.

I really question whether NME are taken seriously enough for this to be a good point, it's like Aint it cool news calling the latest Vin Diesel flick good- it doesn't make the film overrated, because nobody trusts them anyway. I mean, the Arctic Monkeys are overrated, but the people guilty of this are not NME so much, as they overrate everything, but the rest of the mainstream press.

Really, the only thing that annoys me about the Arctic Monkey's is that all the overhyping reviewers seem to have a love on for their lyrics, which confuses me greatly. I mean, half of them pretty much promote them wholly on that basis, which, for a rock band, is absurd. They aren't even any good.

Reply 29

myrtille

15

Is this topic not just here to provoke more of us to say how crap they are? :p:

Anyway, in my opinion (having only heard 2 songs) they are really, really irritating! Well, alternate between irritating and boring, actually. But as I'm sure someone will point out, I am not in a position to judge them overall, from 2 songs. However, I am quite capable of saying that I find "I bet that you look good on the dance floor" and "When the sun goes down" both exceedingly irritating and boring.

Reply 30

=nuke=

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KieranP

I do love it when people get really worked up about you insulting a band, and then complain about you "not respecting their opinion", bonus points if they actually insult people who don't like the band, or say "you might not like the music, but you've got to respect their talent". This isn't quite that, but it's close.

Yet more bonus points when the person getting worked up starts telling people that they can't possibly have listened to anything by the band in question. Thankfully I don't think that's happened in this particular thread (bar the 'you should listen to the early EP and then you'll share my opinion' junk).

Reply 31

zertrudetrout

Keziah

Is this topic not just here to provoke more of us to say how crap they are? :p:

Anyway, in my opinion (having only heard 2 songs) they are really, really irritating! Well, alternate between irritating and boring, actually. But as I'm sure someone will point out, I am not in a position to judge them overall, from 2 songs. However, I am quite capable of saying that I find "I bet that you look good on the dance floor" and "When the sun goes down" both exceedingly irritating and boring.

yep. i love the idea if you dont like such and such a band you must have some ulterior motive for not liking them. yeah, they bullied me at school, thats why i dont like them :rolleyes:

Reply 32

Pulse

10

Is this topic not just here to provoke more of us to say how crap they are?

Yep, and thank god for that. The more voices joining this chorus the better frankly.

Reply 33

loopymeg

13

benisright

Stop saying they are rubbish/overrated whatever.

These are young people who have made a great album. They have shown that they want to keep making good music by releasing an extra EP earlier this year and a new album next year. Most people who have a gripe with Arctic Monkeys on TSR have a self gripe that they are good but not that good. Thats why they are bloody popular.

Yes it is annoying for people to say that they are the biggest thing for 20 years or so, but they do have the potential to be as they have the right attitude about making music. Give them a break.

/rant

benisright, paradoxically, you are wrong.

The album is NOT great, it is mediocre - yes, mediocre.

The music is audible, but not wonderful. As I said in another thread, I can listen to them if I really have to, but I certainly would not choose them myself.

Just because they are "popular" doesn't mean that they are good. Would you say that drugs are good/right just because they are popular? I wouldn't, that's for damn sure.

In my opinion, the Arctic Monkeys are most definately over-rated. There are bands around with better music (from a musical point-of-view, not just by taste).

We all have a right to our opinion, so you should not be telling us to "stop saying they are rubbish/over-rated whatever". Instead, you should change that to, "I disagree, I like their music and do not think that they are over-rated".

Reply 34

vickyrkenya

2

I like their music, i couldnt give a jaff about...

(1) - Whether they are from Sheffield or not. People from the North 'making it' REALLY doesn't surprise me.

(2) - How old they are. Young people are capable of doing things, and its not as if they are pre-pubescent.

(3) - How arrogant they are...I saw them at Reading this year and saw no evidence of OTT arrogance (unlike other bands e.g. Muse)

Reply 35

serious narb

11

vickyrkenya

(3) - How arrogant they are...I saw them at Reading this year and saw no evidence of OTT arrogance (unlike other bands e.g. Muse)

Muse were not arrogant at all

and if they were they deserved to be because they were so good, a million times actually just way better than 'tartic monkeys'

Reply 36

dynamite_man

Arctic Monkeys have the potential to be the biggest thing in 20 years?

Ha.

Ha.

Ha.

Reply 37

TrashBat

They by no means deserve the flack they get. They make ok music and are down to earth guys, they aren't the ones hyping themselves. Blame gash music media like NME and knobbers like Jo Whiley & Zane Lowe. I imagine whatever label they're signed to could shoulder some of the blame too.

Reply 38

LostRiot

14

TrashBat

They by no means deserve the flack they get. They make ok music and are down to earth guys, they aren't the ones hyping themselves. Blame gash music media like NME and knobbers like Jo Whiley & Zane Lowe. I imagine whatever label they're signed to could shoulder some of the blame too.

hmm, nah, I think domino are trying to play down the hype, it's not in their interests for Arctic Monkeys to be a flash in the pan, which excessive hype almost always leads to, releasing EP's rather than singles, not doing TV appearences etc, I imagine those ideas came from the label.

dynamite_man, with comments like that you could end up looking like a fool, unlikely, but they are very, very popular, and at the end of the day that's all you really need to be successful...

Reply 39

TrashBat

Must admit I didn't know who they're signed to, assumed it was some big faceless bastards, but seeing as it's Domino, they probably have clean hands in all of this.

Arctic Monkeys, rant!

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