Hookers/prostitutes/escorts are people too.
I'm tired of TSR talking about women who choose to sell their body like they're worse than the dirt on their shoes. These women are working they're better than all the scroungers that live in the UK you know why? Because they are putting their pride aside and doing the job they signed up for.
So I'm appealing to all you folks that are badmouthing hookers for being go-getters please stop.
So I'm appealing to all you folks that are badmouthing hookers for being go-getters please stop.
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I don't bad-mouth prostitutes, I feel sorry for them. Most women turn to prostitution out of desperation not as as a career choice.
Nothing against prostitutes but I'd sooner date a scrounger...nothing against scroungers. Stop bad mouthing them!
I know an escort and she's just a normal uni student. She's a very friendly pleasant lass actually. Why people should look down on another person who is doing nothing legally wrong or even not arguably morally wrong, is quite beyond me.
dirty ppl but ok
people in that profession have no morals. they have lost all respect for their body . what decent man would a woman who slept with 30 other guys for the money of it, not because she loved him for his mind and personality and worth. there is a lot more to life than sex.
love and sex is a totally different thing. that's the commitment of a couple who love each other for more than just their bodies.
when i talk about poor girls who are prostitutes, i do not bad mouth them. that helps no one. i feel sorry for them because they have no life. what kind of life is it to get money thrown at you for your body? a man has no respect for a girl of that kind. he uses her for her body for his pleasure and then dumps her when he is satisfied and done with her.
love and sex is a totally different thing. that's the commitment of a couple who love each other for more than just their bodies.
when i talk about poor girls who are prostitutes, i do not bad mouth them. that helps no one. i feel sorry for them because they have no life. what kind of life is it to get money thrown at you for your body? a man has no respect for a girl of that kind. he uses her for her body for his pleasure and then dumps her when he is satisfied and done with her.
Original post by Anonynous
dirty ppl but ok
yeah, how can anyone expect anybody in a "profession" like that to have any morals ?
Original post by PinkMobilePhone
I know an escort and she's just a normal uni student. She's a very friendly pleasant lass actually. Why people should look down on another person who is doing nothing legally wrong or even not arguably morally wrong, is quite beyond me.
what do you mean "even not arguably morally wrong"? of course it is. i mean come on . a girl who sells her body has no morals whatsoever.
Original post by PinkMobilePhone
I know an escort and she's just a normal uni student. She's a very friendly pleasant lass actually. Why people should look down on another person who is doing nothing legally wrong or even not arguably morally wrong, is quite beyond me.
If your mum/sister/partner did it would you mind?
Original post by Vixen47
You'd be surprised. A lot of sex workers enter that field out of choice. Some genuinely enjoy it, others already have full time/good paying jobs and just want a little extra money on the side. Others might be students wanting money on the side. The stereotype is that it's mostly those that are desperate who sell their bodies, but the reality for the majority is far from the stereotype.
There's a difference between the Pretty Woman street walker types and the Secret Diary of a Call Girl high-end types. Those are the two ends of the spectrum. There's more girls and guys who are in the middle of the spectrum than at either end. It's surprising how many aren't the Pretty Woman street walker desperate for money type.
A lot of people here have probably seen me mention that my best friend is a call girl. She seems like the girl next door/innocent angel type. No one would suspect of doing anything like sex work. The only reason she did it was because she needed something to fill a sort of hole in her life. Her parents are wealthy, she lives at home next to them, she isn't desperate for the money, she's in uni so she's getting an education for a better future. Life's great. The only thing that pushed her to work was her need for something more - a kind of "rush" that's difficult to find in the average person's ****ty boring life. The money doesn't matter at all to her. We share the bank account it all goes into so I probably spend more of it than she does! Through her I met a lot of other sex workers who are in a similar position in that they're financially stable and they're not desperate for the money for things like drugs and whatnot. They do it because they genuinely enjoy it and it's something fun/interesting to do on the side of whatever they do in the day. Some do it full time because they like the flexibility of sex work and the money that comes with it. It's not all negative.
There's a difference between the Pretty Woman street walker types and the Secret Diary of a Call Girl high-end types. Those are the two ends of the spectrum. There's more girls and guys who are in the middle of the spectrum than at either end. It's surprising how many aren't the Pretty Woman street walker desperate for money type.
A lot of people here have probably seen me mention that my best friend is a call girl. She seems like the girl next door/innocent angel type. No one would suspect of doing anything like sex work. The only reason she did it was because she needed something to fill a sort of hole in her life. Her parents are wealthy, she lives at home next to them, she isn't desperate for the money, she's in uni so she's getting an education for a better future. Life's great. The only thing that pushed her to work was her need for something more - a kind of "rush" that's difficult to find in the average person's ****ty boring life. The money doesn't matter at all to her. We share the bank account it all goes into so I probably spend more of it than she does! Through her I met a lot of other sex workers who are in a similar position in that they're financially stable and they're not desperate for the money for things like drugs and whatnot. They do it because they genuinely enjoy it and it's something fun/interesting to do on the side of whatever they do in the day. Some do it full time because they like the flexibility of sex work and the money that comes with it. It's not all negative.
You share a bank account with your friend?!
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Because today women are promiscuous and morally loose, more are up to the idea of entering porn or being escorts to make money. You get a lot of students now selling their bodies I think it's horrible. Imagine telling your future partner that you were selling your body for years to pay for your education. I only feel for the women who are forced to prostitute and those who perhaps are drug addicts and sell their bodies on the streets for their next fix.
Honestly I think some of you who think that being an escort etc. is so wrong, should actually consider people who have one night stands. How, may I ask, is that any better? At least the prostitute is earning a living.
It's HER body to sell, and she's not causing anybody any harm whatsoever. In fact, she's bringing people pleasure. What's so morally wrong about that?
My partner yes, because our marriage vows state that we have forsaken all others. Obviously I wouldn't want him sleeping with somebody else, but that's only logical.
My mum, I wouldn't care, as long as she was careful. Not that I talk about sex with my mum but whatever, I don't care what she does with her body, it's her body not mine.
My sister - I don't have one. If I did, it would be the same as my mum.
Original post by B/A
what do you mean "even not arguably morally wrong"? of course it is. i mean come on . a girl who sells her body has no morals whatsoever.
It's HER body to sell, and she's not causing anybody any harm whatsoever. In fact, she's bringing people pleasure. What's so morally wrong about that?
Original post by aka r
If your mum/sister/partner did it would you mind?
My partner yes, because our marriage vows state that we have forsaken all others. Obviously I wouldn't want him sleeping with somebody else, but that's only logical.
My mum, I wouldn't care, as long as she was careful. Not that I talk about sex with my mum but whatever, I don't care what she does with her body, it's her body not mine.
My sister - I don't have one. If I did, it would be the same as my mum.
Original post by PinkMobilePhone
Honestly I think some of you who think that being an escort etc. is so wrong, should actually consider people who have one night stands. How, may I ask, is that any better? At least the prostitute is earning a living.
It's HER body to sell, and she's not causing anybody any harm whatsoever. In fact, she's bringing people pleasure. What's so morally wrong about that?
My partner yes, because our marriage vows state that we have forsaken all others. Obviously I wouldn't want him sleeping with somebody else, but that's only logical.
My mum, I wouldn't care, as long as she was careful. Not that I talk about sex with my mum but whatever, I don't care what she does with her body, it's her body not mine.
My sister - I don't have one. If I did, it would be the same as my mum.
It's HER body to sell, and she's not causing anybody any harm whatsoever. In fact, she's bringing people pleasure. What's so morally wrong about that?
My partner yes, because our marriage vows state that we have forsaken all others. Obviously I wouldn't want him sleeping with somebody else, but that's only logical.
My mum, I wouldn't care, as long as she was careful. Not that I talk about sex with my mum but whatever, I don't care what she does with her body, it's her body not mine.
My sister - I don't have one. If I did, it would be the same as my mum.
It's sinful pleasure. That's what wrong with that. I'm no saint and Im not pretending to be one, but i draw the line at saying prostitution is a normal profession. Because it isn't.
But, everyone's got their own opinion so I'm not going to fight and make you change. We'll just part our separate ways !
Original post by iammeyouareyou
I don't bad-mouth prostitutes, I feel sorry for them. Most women turn to prostitution out of desperation not as as a career choice.
Yes, you can feel sorry for them because of some dangers involved.
But these dangers are actually relatively abritary anyway. Anyone who goes to a nightclub and goes home with a man is putting themselves in the same danger.
In the fact, the man in the nightclub might be worse morally if he gives a false suggestion that this might not just be a one night stand (when he actually intends it to be a one night stand).
Hopefully the man in the nighclub is usually not worse aesthetically. A prostitute might not refuse to sleep with a man on the grounds that she finds him ugly. But that would reveal a deeper issue- she needs the money so much, she has little confidence in having or deserving deep and meaningful relationships with people her own age/looks or she even is being somewhat charitable to men who are showing her interest and who might otherwise struggle to get a girl with her looks (if she has good looks).
But you must allow that they might have good reason to feel sorry for anyone else.
Morals have their place but some people cling on to them for dear life as a defence mechanism against their own fading youth, their lack of sexuality and even their own secretly faded morals.
This does not necessarily escape the prositute in the slightest. Just as someone doing any career can be acutely aware that most people don't have the instinct to do what they do.
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Anyone who is not married who has sex with men need not necessarily technically be in ANY difference to the prostitute and escort.
People think that they can pick and choose what constitutes acceptable sexual behaviour and that marriage is merely a final icing on a sexually promiscous cake.
They see the prositute as having their own sexually promiscuous cake which they look down on as being massively inferior merely because it doesn't have the icing of marriage - or the 'right' kind of presentation for the unmarried.
That says more about people's egos than it does about the difference between themselves and a prostitute or escort.
Anyone who talks harshly about a prostitute or escort merely for doing what many others do somewhat for free (in the hope that the long run will being more material reward) is, if they use hateful langauge, simply a hateful person themselves.
Just like anyone, your main 'occupation' is not necessarily the full sum of who you are. Prostitution might not absolutely demand many pleasantries but, as I don't find most people truly pleasant anyway, that seems something of a mute point to me.
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by PinkMobilePhone
I know an escort and she's just a normal uni student. She's a very friendly pleasant lass actually. Why people should look down on another person who is doing nothing legally wrong or even not arguably morally wrong, is quite beyond me.
I thought is was illegal in the UK.
Original post by Vixen47
You'd be surprised. A lot of sex workers enter that field out of choice. Some genuinely enjoy it, others already have full time/good paying jobs and just want a little extra money on the side. Others might be students wanting money on the side. The stereotype is that it's mostly those that are desperate who sell their bodies, but the reality for the majority is far from the stereotype.
There's a difference between the Pretty Woman street walker types and the Secret Diary of a Call Girl high-end types. Those are the two ends of the spectrum. There's more girls and guys who are in the middle of the spectrum than at either end. It's surprising how many aren't the Pretty Woman street walker desperate for money type.
A lot of people here have probably seen me mention that my best friend is a call girl. She seems like the girl next door/innocent angel type. No one would suspect of doing anything like sex work. The only reason she did it was because she needed something to fill a sort of hole in her life. Her parents are wealthy, she lives at home next to them, she isn't desperate for the money, she's in uni so she's getting an education for a better future. Life's great. The only thing that pushed her to work was her need for something more - a kind of "rush" that's difficult to find in the average person's ****ty boring life. The money doesn't matter at all to her. We share the bank account it all goes into so I probably spend more of it than she does! Through her I met a lot of other sex workers who are in a similar position in that they're financially stable and they're not desperate for the money for things like drugs and whatnot. They do it because they genuinely enjoy it and it's something fun/interesting to do on the side of whatever they do in the day. Some do it full time because they like the flexibility of sex work and the money that comes with it. It's not all negative.
There's a difference between the Pretty Woman street walker types and the Secret Diary of a Call Girl high-end types. Those are the two ends of the spectrum. There's more girls and guys who are in the middle of the spectrum than at either end. It's surprising how many aren't the Pretty Woman street walker desperate for money type.
A lot of people here have probably seen me mention that my best friend is a call girl. She seems like the girl next door/innocent angel type. No one would suspect of doing anything like sex work. The only reason she did it was because she needed something to fill a sort of hole in her life. Her parents are wealthy, she lives at home next to them, she isn't desperate for the money, she's in uni so she's getting an education for a better future. Life's great. The only thing that pushed her to work was her need for something more - a kind of "rush" that's difficult to find in the average person's ****ty boring life. The money doesn't matter at all to her. We share the bank account it all goes into so I probably spend more of it than she does! Through her I met a lot of other sex workers who are in a similar position in that they're financially stable and they're not desperate for the money for things like drugs and whatnot. They do it because they genuinely enjoy it and it's something fun/interesting to do on the side of whatever they do in the day. Some do it full time because they like the flexibility of sex work and the money that comes with it. It's not all negative.
Following my previous post, I make an exception for this kind of person and for your attitude to it. They are a world away from the prostitute who could be better off with a stable relationship with a man who truly loves her. The person that you've mentioned is a spoilt pseudo-bohemian. And you benefit from it? You're worse- you're not even doing any of the 'work'.
'Life's great' ? Not in my eyes. You'll never get (or deserve) the true respect of 'salt of the earth' people of any intellect. Not that either of you two would/should necessarily care I guess. But you will miss out!
You seem to imply that your friend is a cut above a typical prostitute in that she doesn't spend money on drugs. I hope she only goes to bed with people that she actually finds quite attractive and isn't the kind of person who has sex with what she'd regard as ugly people as some kind of weird 'hoot'.
You've got the arrogance to say that most people's lives are ****ty and yet your friend, with all her money, isn't satisfied enough with using her imagination or passion in another way. She sounds like the tired stereotype of a middle class girl with too much time on her hands to me, who likes living in the shadows and who'll never really engage with the people who might actually properly respect her aside from jolly hockey sticks let's do what we like for tomorrow we die. And she might.
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
I thought is was illegal in the UK.
nope.
Original post by B/A
It's sinful pleasure. That's what wrong with that. I'm no saint and Im not pretending to be one, but i draw the line at saying prostitution is a normal profession. Because it isn't.
But, everyone's got their own opinion so I'm not going to fight and make you change. We'll just part our separate ways !
But, everyone's got their own opinion so I'm not going to fight and make you change. We'll just part our separate ways !
That's absolutely fine. I have no problem with people having different opinions to my own.
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
I thought is was illegal in the UK.
Escorting is not illegal no. The idea of escorting is that you're being paid for your time and company, anything else that happens between consenting adults is additional and technically not being paid for.
Prostitution is illegal.
Original post by PinkMobilePhone
Escorting is not illegal no. The idea of escorting is that you're being paid for your time and company, anything else that happens between consenting adults is additional and technically not being paid for.
Prostitution is illegal.
Escorting is not illegal no. The idea of escorting is that you're being paid for your time and company, anything else that happens between consenting adults is additional and technically not being paid for.
Prostitution is illegal.
Ok. Whether it is illegal or not has no bearing on my view on it. But isn't escorting just a loop hole for what is essentially prostitution?
Original post by PinkMobilePhone
Prostitution is illegal.
That's not illegal either.
Prostitution is "illegal" usually for one of three reasons:
1. Not allowed to solicit.
2. Can only work alone (no brothels)
3. I would be certain that almost all prostitutes do not pay tax, or do not pay tax correctly on their earnings.
Actually being a prostitute is completely legit.
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