Go to first unread
Back
to top
Primary school introduces unisex toilets to "prevent transphobia"
Watch
Announcements
thesabbath
Badges:
2
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#1
Angry parents have complained after a primary school introduced unisex toilets in a bid to 'prevent transphobia'.
Pupils were shocked to discover they had to share the 'gender neutral' toilets at the start of the school year, sparking concerns from parents.
Many say their children do not want to use facilities split with the opposite sex and it makes them feel 'uncomfortable'.
Harbour Primary School in Newhaven, East Sussex, has defended the move, which it says is about 'preventing transphobia'.
There are around 500 pupils at the school for three to 11-year-olds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ansphobia.html
Pupils were shocked to discover they had to share the 'gender neutral' toilets at the start of the school year, sparking concerns from parents.
Many say their children do not want to use facilities split with the opposite sex and it makes them feel 'uncomfortable'.
Harbour Primary School in Newhaven, East Sussex, has defended the move, which it says is about 'preventing transphobia'.
There are around 500 pupils at the school for three to 11-year-olds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ansphobia.html
0
reply
BitWindy
Badges:
12
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#2
qasidb
Badges:
20
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#3
SnoochToTheBooch
Badges:
17
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#4
Report
#4
Aside from how ****ing pathetic this is, don't they already have disabled toilets that are unisex?
0
reply
Juichiro
Badges:
18
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#5
Report
#5
(Original post by thesabbath)
Angry parents have complained after a primary school introduced unisex toilets in a bid to 'prevent transphobia'.
Pupils were shocked to discover they had to share the 'gender neutral' toilets at the start of the school year, sparking concerns from parents.
Many say their children do not want to use facilities split with the opposite sex and it makes them feel 'uncomfortable'.
Harbour Primary School in Newhaven, East Sussex, has defended the move, which it says is about 'preventing transphobia'.
There are around 500 pupils at the school for three to 11-year-olds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ansphobia.html
Angry parents have complained after a primary school introduced unisex toilets in a bid to 'prevent transphobia'.
Pupils were shocked to discover they had to share the 'gender neutral' toilets at the start of the school year, sparking concerns from parents.
Many say their children do not want to use facilities split with the opposite sex and it makes them feel 'uncomfortable'.
Harbour Primary School in Newhaven, East Sussex, has defended the move, which it says is about 'preventing transphobia'.
There are around 500 pupils at the school for three to 11-year-olds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ansphobia.html
3
reply
Clip
Badges:
19
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#6
BitWindy
Badges:
12
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#7
Report
#7
(Original post by Clip)
A lot of schools have open plan and GN toilets as anti-bullying measures.
A lot of schools have open plan and GN toilets as anti-bullying measures.
0
reply
BarackObama
Badges:
6
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#8
Report
#8
Huh, weird. Although I have heard the following logic before: we don't segregate toilets based on race any more, so why would we segregate toilets based on gender?
Don't even know tbh.
Don't even know tbh.
1
reply
Clip
Badges:
19
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#9
Report
#9
(Original post by BitWindy)
How are they anti-bullying measures?
How are they anti-bullying measures?
Not saying I completely agree with it - just that's the thinking.
1
reply
thesabbath
Badges:
2
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#10
(Original post by Juichiro)
The school should have made 3 types of toilets to prevent this predictable reaction: male toilets, female toilets and unisex toilets.
The school should have made 3 types of toilets to prevent this predictable reaction: male toilets, female toilets and unisex toilets.
0
reply
Joinedup
Badges:
20
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#11
Report
#11
(Original post by BitWindy)
How are they anti-bullying measures?
How are they anti-bullying measures?
linking it to transphobia seems a bit bonkers though and tbh it sounds like something whinging idiot parents have deliberately misconstrued in order to get the papers interested.
0
reply
nulli tertius
Badges:
21
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#12
Report
#12
(Original post by BitWindy)
How are they anti-bullying measures?
How are they anti-bullying measures?
Members of the opposite gender are less likely to tolerate the annexation of toilet facilities as private space by bullies for the purposes of intimidation or violence.
0
reply
gr8wizard10
Badges:
21
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#13
white boy
Badges:
10
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#14
Report
#14
(Original post by SnoochToTheBooch)
Aside from how ****ing pathetic this is, don't they already have disabled toilets that are unisex?
Aside from how ****ing pathetic this is, don't they already have disabled toilets that are unisex?
0
reply
nulli tertius
Badges:
21
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#15
Report
#15
(Original post by Anonynous)
this is feminism gone too far
this is feminism gone too far
8
reply
gr8wizard10
Badges:
21
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#16
Report
#16
(Original post by nulli tertius)
Please would you explain what this has to do with feminism at all?
Please would you explain what this has to do with feminism at all?
1
reply
thesabbath
Badges:
2
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#17
(Original post by Joinedup)
Increased traffic - decreased loitering
linking it to transphobia seems a bit bonkers though and tbh it sounds like something whinging idiot parents have deliberately misconstrued in order to get the papers interested.
Increased traffic - decreased loitering
linking it to transphobia seems a bit bonkers though and tbh it sounds like something whinging idiot parents have deliberately misconstrued in order to get the papers interested.
Headteacher Christine Terrey said the decision to include single sex toilets in their new building had been taken by East Sussex County Council. She has invited parents to a meeting on 'transphobia', which will include a discussion about the toilets.
Mrs Terrey said: "The toilets are all in cubicles and they all lock. We just want all our children to be able to use the toilets.
"We no longer have urinals because they were quite unpopular with the boys."
And a letter to parents said: "We want all the children in our school to feel safe and be happy.
"We also want our families to feel informed about how to effectively support transgender and gender questioning by their children, preventing any transphobia at the school."
0
reply
nulli tertius
Badges:
21
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#18
Report
#18
Angry parents have complained after a primary school introduced unisex toilets in a bid to 'prevent transphobia'.
Pupils were shocked to discover they had to share the 'gender neutral' toilets at the start of the school year, sparking concerns from parents.
Many say their children do not want to use facilities split with the opposite sex and it makes them feel 'uncomfortable'.
Harbour Primary School in Newhaven, East Sussex, has defended the move, which it says is about 'preventing transphobia'.
There are around 500 pupils at the school for three to 11-year-olds.
Related Articles
Single-sex classes 'make no difference' to girls, says head
28 Sep 2014
Number of single-sex private schools 'halved in 20 years'
24 Apr 2014
Girls 'do better in single-sex schools'
18 Mar 2009
One concerned mother said her seven-year-old does not feel 'comfortable' using the toilets.
She said: "I know of several parents who have raised complaints and they have now invited us to a meeting about transgender equality.
"This was just introduced from the start of term and no one told us before. There are seven-year-old girls using the same toilets as 11-year-old boys.
"My daughter has said she doesn't feel comfortable about it. Although we are all up for equality we feel this is not allowing our children to choose.
"A lot of our children don't want to use toilets of the opposite sex."
Headteacher Christine Terrey said the decision to include single sex toilets in their new building had been taken by East Sussex County Council.
She has invited parents to a meeting on 'transphobia', which will include a discussion about the toilets.
Mrs Terrey said: "The toilets are all in cubicles and they all lock. We just want all our children to be able to use the toilets.
"We no longer have urinals because they were quite unpopular with the boys."
And a letter to parents said: "We want all the children in our school to feel safe and be happy.
"We also want our families to feel informed about how to effectively support transgender and gender questioning by their children, preventing any transphobia at the school."
East Sussex County Council said it chose to install unisex toilets because they are better for 'hygiene, maintenance and pupil behaviour'.
A spokesman said: "As part of the rebuilding work a decision was taken to install toilets which could be used by boys or girls, with lockable cubicles.
"Unisex toilet blocks are considered preferable in terms of hygiene, maintenance and pupil behaviour.
"We feel this kind of toilet block, which complies with all national guidelines, is an appropriate solution for children of primary school age.
"We are not aware of any cases of children being reluctant to use the new toilets.
"On the contrary, the feedback we have received from the vast majority of parents, children and staff has been overwhelmingly positive.
"As an authority we feel it's important to provide a safe, welcoming environment in our schools for all pupils."
One father, who asked to remain anonymous, said: "I am disappointed that we were not consulted.
"I understand the rationale for doing it but I am disappointed with how the changes have happened."
Marcus Clark, 36, and Greta Clark, 33, said their two children do not mind sharing.
Mrs Clark, from Newhaven, East Sussex, said: "If it doesn't bother the kids, it doesn't bother us. For anyone below 11, it isn't an issue."
Mr Clark added: "I think it's more than reasonable for kids to share. It's change isn't it? Some people don't like it but we are OK with it."
Pupils were shocked to discover they had to share the 'gender neutral' toilets at the start of the school year, sparking concerns from parents.
Many say their children do not want to use facilities split with the opposite sex and it makes them feel 'uncomfortable'.
Harbour Primary School in Newhaven, East Sussex, has defended the move, which it says is about 'preventing transphobia'.
There are around 500 pupils at the school for three to 11-year-olds.
Related Articles
Single-sex classes 'make no difference' to girls, says head
28 Sep 2014
Number of single-sex private schools 'halved in 20 years'
24 Apr 2014
Girls 'do better in single-sex schools'
18 Mar 2009
One concerned mother said her seven-year-old does not feel 'comfortable' using the toilets.
She said: "I know of several parents who have raised complaints and they have now invited us to a meeting about transgender equality.
"This was just introduced from the start of term and no one told us before. There are seven-year-old girls using the same toilets as 11-year-old boys.
"My daughter has said she doesn't feel comfortable about it. Although we are all up for equality we feel this is not allowing our children to choose.
"A lot of our children don't want to use toilets of the opposite sex."
Headteacher Christine Terrey said the decision to include single sex toilets in their new building had been taken by East Sussex County Council.
She has invited parents to a meeting on 'transphobia', which will include a discussion about the toilets.
Mrs Terrey said: "The toilets are all in cubicles and they all lock. We just want all our children to be able to use the toilets.
"We no longer have urinals because they were quite unpopular with the boys."
And a letter to parents said: "We want all the children in our school to feel safe and be happy.
"We also want our families to feel informed about how to effectively support transgender and gender questioning by their children, preventing any transphobia at the school."
East Sussex County Council said it chose to install unisex toilets because they are better for 'hygiene, maintenance and pupil behaviour'.
A spokesman said: "As part of the rebuilding work a decision was taken to install toilets which could be used by boys or girls, with lockable cubicles.
"Unisex toilet blocks are considered preferable in terms of hygiene, maintenance and pupil behaviour.
"We feel this kind of toilet block, which complies with all national guidelines, is an appropriate solution for children of primary school age.
"We are not aware of any cases of children being reluctant to use the new toilets.
"On the contrary, the feedback we have received from the vast majority of parents, children and staff has been overwhelmingly positive.
"As an authority we feel it's important to provide a safe, welcoming environment in our schools for all pupils."
One father, who asked to remain anonymous, said: "I am disappointed that we were not consulted.
"I understand the rationale for doing it but I am disappointed with how the changes have happened."
Marcus Clark, 36, and Greta Clark, 33, said their two children do not mind sharing.
Mrs Clark, from Newhaven, East Sussex, said: "If it doesn't bother the kids, it doesn't bother us. For anyone below 11, it isn't an issue."
Mr Clark added: "I think it's more than reasonable for kids to share. It's change isn't it? Some people don't like it but we are OK with it."
0
reply
thesabbath
Badges:
2
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#19
(Original post by nulli tertius)
Read the parts in bold. The people who made the decision have not referred to transphobia at all,
Read the parts in bold. The people who made the decision have not referred to transphobia at all,
0
reply
Juichiro
Badges:
18
Rep:
?
You'll earn badges for being active around the site. Rep gems come when your posts are rated by other community members.
#20
Report
#20
(Original post by thesabbath)
Doesn't it strike you as rather disturbing that a school for 3-11 year olds is concerning itself with radical gender theory and the elimination of a recently invented PC-condemned mental construct which for obvious reasons isn't going to be on children's radar?
Doesn't it strike you as rather disturbing that a school for 3-11 year olds is concerning itself with radical gender theory and the elimination of a recently invented PC-condemned mental construct which for obvious reasons isn't going to be on children's radar?
1. Doesn't it strike you as rather disturbing that a school for 3-11 year olds is concerning itself with radical gender theory?
Tackling transphobia is not a "radical gender theory"...unless you are transphobic yourself, in that case it would make sense to say that you find transgender disturbing in the same way that a racist would find racial equality disturbing.
2. Doesn't it strike you as rather disturbing that a school for 3-11 year olds is concerning itself with the elimination of a recently invented PC-condemned mental construct?
What do you mean by a "PC-condemned mental construct"? Transgender? The school is trying to tackle transphobia, whether the approach taken is the best one is one thing and whether the school should tackle transphobia (which seems to be your focus) is another thing.
3. " isn't going to be on children's radar". That is irrelevant. Racism and sexism are also not in your child's radar...unless he is on the "weaker side" of racism (ethnic minorities) or sexism (females).
1
reply
X
Quick Reply
