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ok, all you gym/fitness/health wise people

originally, this post was long and boring and blahblahblah about things i already knew.

so then i decided to change it...

to swimming!

how good is swimming for toning up/losing weight really? better than the gym (i.e. cardio/resistance machines)? equally good? or totally dependent on the individual's body/etc?

there are some days, perhaps even a whole WEEK, where i really cannot be arsed to go to the gym and if i force myself to, i am close to physically vomitting at ten minutes, so i find swimming a fun and nicer substitute... but is it a worthy sub?

everyone's always going on about how swimming's the best way to lose weight and the greatest way to tone up, but is that really true? because, if i'm honest, i find i see the best results quicker and... er, better, through cardio and resistance.

perhaps it's because i sweat with the machines more obviously and so naturally see more of a result? i don't know.

i'm hoping you know-it-alls can shed some light on this :biggrin:

Reply 1

Hi,

Swimming's good for improving CV fitness, muscular toning & symmetry, plus it's non-weight-bearing which means it's good for your joints too. But you will only get great results from swimming if you train hard. Very hard! It's good for a change, and it's good for relaxation, but as a muscle building, tone defining tool, you'd be better off sticking to the free-weights.

Paul

Reply 2

define toning haha

Reply 3

I would say swimming is one of the best for losing weight all round.

Reply 4

the best thing for loosing weight by far is diet and getting the all important calorie deficit!

swimming is a great form of cardio with less impact on joints! i wouldnt just swim however! its always more fun to mix cardio up and do lots of different types! great for helping get the calorie deficit and improve fitness!

As far as muscle building goes youll be better off with weights

and for "toning" there are many definitions! tightness of muscle at relaxation or the visibility of the muscle ...........

for tightness that will come with muscle maturity and time (and genetics) for visibility of muscle that will only come with fatloss!

Reply 5

Swimming is the best workout for you. I'm a boxer, I do martial arts, and I played many high school sports, and played baseball at the Uni level. A boxing match is the hardest thing to endure, but I will say that to get in shape, swimming is the best for you.

It will drastically improve your cardio, and it works muscles in your body that lifting alone won't.

Think of it this way. You body needs calories to feed your muscles. The more muscles you work, the more calories your body will burn. Swimming will burn the most at one time.

A matching healthy diet will be the biggest help, though.

Do it, do it, do it.

Reply 6

just t
the best thing for loosing weight by far is diet and getting the all important calorie deficit!

swimming is a great form of cardio with less impact on joints! i wouldnt just swim however! its always more fun to mix cardio up and do lots of different types! great for helping get the calorie deficit and improve fitness!

As far as muscle building goes youll be better off with weights

and for "toning" there are many definitions! tightness of muscle at relaxation or the visibility of the muscle ...........

for tightness that will come with muscle maturity and time (and genetics) for visibility of muscle that will only come with fatloss!

All very, very true.

However, weight lifting is better for fat loss than cardio is, despite popular perception.

Reply 7

I did swimming and running at high school and it really kept me in shape.. I could eat anything without gaining any weight! Now I am going off to uni and I hope I could go to some gym and do swimming as well!Btw swimming also makes you relax and go away from your worries which is very useful when woking/studying!

Reply 8

GRRRRRRRRRR why does everyone think weightlifting dosent work all your muscles !!!!


Try a clean a jerk! thats basically eveymuscle in your body being worked

Reply 9

Every time I read the word tone, I thank wikipedia for this little gem.

Are light, high-repetition exercises effective for "toning" muscles?

Some weight trainers perform light, high-repetition exercises in an attempt to "tone" their muscles without increasing their size. This comes from misunderstanding the meaning of the word "tone." What most people refer to as a toned physique is one that combines reasonable muscular size with moderate levels of body fat. The use of the word "tone" in this sense is inaccurate: a more appropriate term would be "definition".

Muscle tone is a physiologic term that refers to the constant, low-frequency contractions that occur in all muscles all the time, even at "rest", which prepare them for future activity. This continuous slight tension in torso muscles contributes to maintaining good posture. High-repetition exercises should increase muscle size, but will not improve the latter type of muscle "tone". Even performed as aerobic exercises they will have limited benefit, since aerobic exercise is most effective when it engages the whole body.

To define muscles requires a combination of weight training to increase muscle size and cardiovascular training to reduce bodyfat levels.

Reply 10

Christo
Every time I read the word tone, I thank wikipedia for this little gem.

Are light, high-repetition exercises effective for "toning" muscles?

Some weight trainers perform light, high-repetition exercises in an attempt to "tone" their muscles without increasing their size. This comes from misunderstanding the meaning of the word "tone." What most people refer to as a toned physique is one that combines reasonable muscular size with moderate levels of body fat. The use of the word "tone" in this sense is inaccurate: a more appropriate term would be "definition".

Muscle tone is a physiologic term that refers to the constant, low-frequency contractions that occur in all muscles all the time, even at "rest", which prepare them for future activity. This continuous slight tension in torso muscles contributes to maintaining good posture. High-repetition exercises should increase muscle size, but will not improve the latter type of muscle "tone". Even performed as aerobic exercises they will have limited benefit, since aerobic exercise is most effective when it engages the whole body.

To define muscles requires a combination of weight training to increase muscle size and cardiovascular training to reduce bodyfat levels.

Exactly. People think very high reps will "tone" muscles but it will make no difference other than to add endurance. Reduce bodyfat percentage to vastly improve muscle definition, and build muscle size to improve it even further (and obviously look better still).

Reply 11

Swimming is a great form of cardio. Mix it up with some weights training and you will be great. I do both and that tends to help keep my bodyfat % low so give it a go and post your results in a month or two time

Reply 12

I agree with most in this thread... swimming is one of the best things to do if one wants to lose weight/train cardio. (though walking, running, cycling etc. are also good)

And I also got upset about the 'toning'...if you want to build muscles, keep it to low reps...

And I'd recommend some working out at the gym as well as swimming if one wants to become strong etc. but for losing fat swimming works fine.

Reply 13

well it really depends how much swimming/ gym u do? i do roughly 3-4hours gym and try to burn calories, and well swimming u'll spend less time in a pool however it does work the muscles, etc, but it would be pointless if u cant swim lol:biggrin: . i'd say u probs need more effort in swimming as opposed to gym

Reply 14

As good as everything else.

Reply 15

Mr.God
All very, very true.

However, weight lifting is better for fat loss than cardio is, despite popular perception.

B0ll0cks!

Reply 16

Mr.God
However, weight lifting is better for fat loss than cardio is, despite popular perception.

LouE3D
B0ll0cks!

They did a study on this at Colorado State University in the US, comparing an hour's intense weights workout with an hour's intense aerobics workout. Both workouts burned a similar amount of calories, but the EPOC (post exercise oxygen uptake) of the subjects who completed the weights workout was considerably higher than that of the subjects who completed the aerobics workout, as were the metabolic rates. The researchers also found that the metabolic rates of those who completed the weights workout remained higher than normal 14 hours later, whereas the metabolic rates of those who completed the aerobics workouts were back at baseline levels.

What's more, working out with weights builds muscle mass, which also raises your basal metabolic rate and enables you to burn fat more efficiently. Not only that, a resistance workout results in the body partitioning nutrients more efficiently, again improving fat loss.

So, "b0ll0cks" aside, you are, in fact, incorrect. :smile:

Reply 17

i do roughly 3-4hours gym


Wow, thats quite hardcore! Usually an hour for me.

Reply 18

Mr.God
They did a study on this at Colorado State University in the US, comparing an hour's intense weights workout with an hour's intense aerobics workout. Both workouts burned a similar amount of calories, but the EPOC (post exercise oxygen uptake) of the subjects who completed the weights workout was considerably higher than that of the subjects who completed the aerobics workout, as were the metabolic rates. The researchers also found that the metabolic rates of those who completed the weights workout remained higher than normal 14 hours later, whereas the metabolic rates of those who completed the aerobics workouts were back at baseline levels.

What's more, working out with weights builds muscle mass, which also raises your basal metabolic rate and enables you to burn fat more efficiently. Not only that, a resistance workout results in the body partitioning nutrients more efficiently, again improving fat loss.

So, "b0ll0cks" aside, you are, in fact, incorrect. :smile:

It's not actually completely true. There's a lot more to it.

Reply 19

Perhaps you should elaborate on that, because aside from avoiding the overtraining of muscles, I see no benefit (other than cardiovascular health) that cardio offers that weight training does not, whereas weight training has several benefits that cardio doesn't (obviously this is all with regards to burning fat).