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Most public school orientated Oxford Colleges?

What 5 oxford colleges would you consider to be the most public school orientated? chch, keble , worcester, pembroke, LMH?

Reply 1

Peter_The_Great

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If you check out the Oxford admissions statistics for 2003-5, you get a fair picture of where most public schoolers end up. The following colleges have applications and offers of more than 50% for public schools: Worcester, St Edmund Hall, Christ Church and Queen's. Up there as well are colleges like Oriel, Pembroke, Trinity, St Peter's and University.

In contrast, the colleges most favourable to state schoolers are Harris Manchester, St John's, Mansfield, Wadham and Hertford.

Reply 2

sebbie

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Not pembroke...... Though all colleges are far more public school orientated than average Britain.....

Reply 3

kizer

15

Over last three years of entry to Oxford

Five colleges with least state schoolers given offers:

Worcester 43.1%
St Edmund Hall 44.6%
St Peter's 47.8%
St Catherine's 48%
Trinity 48.4%

However those are absolute figures, and to a large extent just reflect which type of pupils tend to apply there. More relevant perhaps are colleges which accept dispropotionately high amounts of private school pupils - the stats are more surprising:

Colleges which accept significantly more private school pupils than who apply:

COLLEGE APPLICATIONS FROM STATE OFFERS FOR STATE

AVERAGE 57% 53%

Corpus Christi 61% 51%
Magdalen 60.2% 50.7%
Mansfield 75.6% 64.6%
St Catherine's 57.3% 48%
St John's 76.9% 66.8%

Only one college is on both lists, St Catherine's.

If you are a private schooler looking for colleges friendly to you at Oxford, the second list is actually more relevant, despite having colleges which have a lot of state-schoolers in them (Mansfield/St John's)

Reply 4

kizer

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Peter_The_Great

If you check out the Oxford admissions statistics for 2003-5, you get a fair picture of where most public schoolers end up. The following colleges have applications and offers of more than 50% for public schools: Worcester, St Edmund Hall, Christ Church and Queen's. Up there as well are colleges like Oriel, Pembroke, Trinity, St Peter's and University.

In contrast, the colleges most favourable to state schoolers are Harris Manchester, St John's, Mansfield, Wadham and Hertford.

Not true.. check my post above.

Reply 5

Jigglypuff

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No colleges are public school 'orientated'- you're implying they favour public school pupils and tend to prefer them to state school pupils. Alternatively, it could be that most of the applicants to certain colleges are from public schools, and hence more of them get in? Proportionately, there's probably not much in it between the success of public school and state school applicants.

Reply 6

kizer

15

Jigglypuff

No colleges are public school 'orientated'- you're implying they favour public school pupils and tend to prefer them to state school pupils. Alternatively, it could be that most of the applicants to certain colleges are from public schools, and hence more of them get in? Proportionately, there's probably not much in it between the success of public school and state school applicants.

There are certain colleges which consistently accept more private schoolers than apply. Read my post above.

Reply 7

Elles

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kizer

Colleges which accept significantly more private school pupils than who apply:

Statistically significantly different from the uni averages or just a difference in % that you think conversationally is? :p:

Reply 8

a_t

16

I dunno how public orientated LMH is, since we have really good links with them

Reply 9

allymcb2

8

Are you asking on the basis of favourable to get into or on the basis of who will have the most people like you when you get there?

Reply 10

thomasjtl

9

we have really good links with them

meaning what exactly? Your school background will be largely disregarded when it comes to admissions, except possibly if its a rubbish inner city comp.

What about PPHs?

thomasjtl

meaning what exactly? Your school background will be largely disregarded when it comes to admissions, except possibly if its a rubbish inner city comp.

Just saying, people are asking about public school orientated colleges, and I'm not too sure that LMH is. It's more likely to be fair rather than have a bias towards public schools

Reply 13

Morbo

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There's a distinction between public schools and private schools. As the stats show, the offers:applications ratio for state-schoolers is pretty much the same at any college, so statistically, it doesn't really matter which college you apply to if you want to be/don't want to be with state-schoolers.

There are certain colleges, however, which seem to end up with lots of public schoolers e.g. boys from Eton, Radley, Harrow.

Reply 14

thomasjtl

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i was referring to how your school has really good links with them. In what sense?

Reply 15

a_t

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We get a lot of people in there, maybe "links", was the wrong word XD

Should have said have a good record with them

Reply 16

sokas

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I'm assuming you are an MGS boy, it is true they do have a good record, but no links, and public schools e.g. eton have better records.

Catz do have a lot of private/public school students, most people there that I know came from one or the other with very few from state schools

Reply 17

kizer

15

Elles

Statistically significantly different from the uni averages or just a difference in % that you think conversationally is? :p:

Was my post not clear? There are colleges that significantly differ from the uni average consistently over 3 years.

Reply 18

thomasjtl

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Was my post not clear? There are colleges that significantly differ from the uni average consistently over 3 years.

she's referring to statistical tests (hypothesis testing) where you can determine numerically the extent of any bias, compared with standard random distributions. You basically calculate the probably of those results occuring if there wasn't any bias, and decide what would be a significantly small probablity to cause serious doubt to the fairness of their admissions.

Reply 19

kizer

15

^^ Ahh, thanks for reminding me of my the fun that was my stats 2 module. :s-smilie:

Well, those colleges above, over a three year period, maintain a discrepency between private school applications and acceptances more than twice the size of the average college. Given that we are talking about hundreds of applications, that seems pretty convincing to me that something's going on!

Most public school orientated Oxford Colleges?

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