If you thought they could win, would you vote green?

Watch
Poll: If you thought they could win, would you vote Green?
Yes - I would vote green (44)
51.76%
No - I'd vote labour (6)
7.06%
No - I'd vote Conservative (13)
15.29%
No - I'd vote UKIP (9)
10.59%
No - I'd vote Lib Dem (5)
5.88%
No - Other party (Please Specify) (5)
5.88%
Unsure how i'd vote (3)
3.53%
I'm going with Russell Brand and not voting at all intentionally (0)
0%
Charlottelt
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#1
Report Thread starter 5 years ago
#1
As stated, in a situation where the green party could possibly win the next general election, would you vote for them?

If you don't know much about them check their website before voting please: http://greenparty.org.uk/values/
0
reply
The Legal Eagle
Badges: 15
Rep:
?
#2
Report 5 years ago
#2
I'm partisan Labour. My protest would be voting Green. They are a good party, and we should work together. Shame Sadiq Khan has had to take up the role of anti-Green.

To answer the question, yes. And then Labour as second choice, should we use an alternative to FPTP.
0
reply
MatureStudent36
Badges: 3
Rep:
?
#3
Report 5 years ago
#3
(Original post by Charlottelt)
As stated, in a situation where the green party could possibly win the next general election, would you vote for them?

If you don't know much about them check their website before voting please: http://greenparty.org.uk/values/
The greens are quite influential in Germany.

The policies they've helped promote have a had a significant impact on the German economy.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...owth-forecasts
0
reply
De Chirico
Badges: 9
Rep:
?
#4
Report 5 years ago
#4
No, another party that can promise the world but wouldn't be able to deliver on their policies when in power.
0
reply
Charlottelt
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#5
Report Thread starter 5 years ago
#5
(Original post by The Legal Eagle)
I'm partisan Labour. My protest would be voting Green. They are a good party, and we should work together. Shame Sadiq Khan has had to take up the role of anti-Green.

To answer the question, yes. And then Labour as second choice, should we use an alternative to FPTP.
In voting terms we're on the same ground. Realistically I'd probably vote labour however I was reading about the uproar with the TV debates and this might have sparked some new media attention for the Greens. If they don't get put on the TV debates (when the lib dems and Farage will be) then it's going to end in a legal battle so they say.

It's a shame that politics is lead by what the media reports and parties with similar policies have to battle it out for one victor. I'm not overly sure if scrapping FPTP is the answer however in all honesty I haven't spent much time looking into the alternatives and their repercussions.
0
reply
Charlottelt
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#6
Report Thread starter 5 years ago
#6
(Original post by De Chirico)
No, another party that can promise the world but wouldn't be able to deliver on their policies when in power.
Is that not every party though? You have to choose someone. Or side with Brand and choose to abstain? Suppose you don't truly know if someone can deliver until they're in power.
0
reply
blackened_sky
Badges: 12
Rep:
?
#7
Report 5 years ago
#7
You shouldn't not vote for a party, just because you don't think they could win
0
reply
Baron of Sealand
  • Political Ambassador
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#8
Report 5 years ago
#8
Us Greens won the general election on TSR. The answer is clear.
2
reply
Rakas21
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#9
Report 5 years ago
#9
No, i'm not a socialist.
1
reply
tomfailinghelp
Badges: 17
Rep:
?
#10
Report 5 years ago
#10
Nope, Socialism is a tired ideology that is a verified failure. I'd vote Liberal Democrats (if they would def win).
0
reply
The Legal Eagle
Badges: 15
Rep:
?
#11
Report 5 years ago
#11
(Original post by Charlottelt)
In voting terms we're on the same ground. Realistically I'd probably vote labour however I was reading about the uproar with the TV debates and this might have sparked some new media attention for the Greens. If they don't get put on the TV debates (when the lib dems and Farage will be) then it's going to end in a legal battle so they say.

It's a shame that politics is lead by what the media reports and parties with similar policies have to battle it out for one victor. I'm not overly sure if scrapping FPTP is the answer however in all honesty I haven't spent much time looking into the alternatives and their repercussions.
I'm all for them in debates too - it's ultimately democratic to allow them on.

There are many systems, all with pros and cons. FPTP is too crude for my liking, and produces tactical voting. Mind you, I'm studying the other systems at the moment and there aren't many other options, sadly.
0
reply
Charlottelt
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#12
Report Thread starter 5 years ago
#12
(Original post by blackened_sky)
You shouldn't not vote for a party, just because you don't think they could win
I know that change won't happen unless we vote for who we actually want to win however it can feel like a wasted vote if you live in a constituency where there are very few votes for greens. Whilst people shouldn't vote in that way a lot of people do.
1
reply
TheTechN1304
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#13
Report 5 years ago
#13
no. sorry, but the environment isn't on top of my list of priorities...besides, heathrow needs a 3rd runway (which they're against) and they would be a bad party in power if by some miracle they did win.
0
reply
blackened_sky
Badges: 12
Rep:
?
#14
Report 5 years ago
#14
(Original post by Charlottelt)
I know that change won't happen unless we vote for who we actually want to win however it can feel like a wasted vote if you live in a constituency where there are very few votes for greens. Whilst people shouldn't vote in that way a lot of people do.
As it is right now I think every vote counts! Especially as the people about my age (18) are starting to vote, the Greens look like the best option for a lot of us
0
reply
Charlottelt
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#15
Report Thread starter 5 years ago
#15
(Original post by The Legal Eagle)
I'm all for them in debates too - it's ultimately democratic to allow them on.

There are many systems, all with pros and cons. FPTP is too crude for my liking, and produces tactical voting. Mind you, I'm studying the other systems at the moment and there aren't many other options, sadly.
You will have to excuse my ignorance for terminology here - I'm a psychology student and study brains instead of politics. I remember a few years ago was it proportional representation that was being considered? When you put like "first choice - X, second - Y, third - Z" instead of just choosing one party? I remember there being a joke on Have I Got News For You about it at the time where they vote for which topic they'd like using that system and end up with the topic nobody really wanted.

There will always be dirty tactics, pros and cons in any voting system imo. Some may facilitate them easier than others however it's turned into supermarket ****ging between the major parties. Looking at their websites very few are saying "look at our brilliant policies" they're saying "look at the other major party's terrible policies" which is not how people should be making choices.
0
reply
DErasmus
Badges: 0
Rep:
?
#16
Report 5 years ago
#16
(Original post by blackened_sky)
As it is right now I think every vote counts! Especially as the people about my age (18) are starting to vote, the Greens look like the best option for a lot of us
its easy to deliver promises when you have no chance of gaining power, most of their promises are completely ridiculous and unncessary, for example a written constitution. The only countries with written constitions are those that need a list of rules telling them how not to behave like animals towards their people, stable countries don't need one.
0
reply
Charlottelt
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#17
Report Thread starter 5 years ago
#17
(Original post by blackened_sky)
As it is right now I think every vote counts! Especially as the people about my age (18) are starting to vote, the Greens look like the best option for a lot of us
Hopefully the TV debate saga will cause a media influx. I think people need to look past their main environmental policies (which are important don't get me wrong) but also look at their social and economic policies to understand that they're a full package rather than a one trick pony.
0
reply
paddyman4
Badges: 14
Rep:
?
#18
Report 5 years ago
#18
God no. The Greens are a party who have no actual understanding of the issue they apparently believe so passionately in.

Read their 2010 manifesto - it's full of contradictions and promises which are physically, scientifically impossible.

And to those saying they should be in the debates - they have one MP and got fewer votes in the last general election than the BNP. Absolutely no reason for them to be in the debates.
1
reply
DErasmus
Badges: 0
Rep:
?
#19
Report 5 years ago
#19
proportional system is stupid as it leads to extremism that prevents anything being done,

source any Parliament that has tried it, but particularly Weimar Germany.
0
reply
blackened_sky
Badges: 12
Rep:
?
#20
Report 5 years ago
#20
(Original post by paddyman4)
God no. The Greens are a party who have no actual understanding of the issue they apparently believe so passionately in.

Read their 2010 manifesto - it's full of contradictions and promises which are physically, scientifically impossible.

And to those saying they should be in the debates - they have one MP and got fewer votes in the last general election than the BNP. Absolutely no reason for them to be in the debates.
Yet UKIP have one MP and they're in the debates
0
reply
X

Quick Reply

Attached files
Write a reply...
Reply
new posts
Back
to top
Latest
My Feed

See more of what you like on
The Student Room

You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

Personalise

Regarding Ofqual's most recent update, do you think you will be given a fair grade this summer?

Yes (344)
34.75%
No (646)
65.25%

Watched Threads

View All