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Is romantic love a social construction or natural phenomenon?
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As in, do animals experience romantic love?

Maybe? I mean we hear enough about animals becoming inseparable as a friendship kind of love sort of thing, I wouldn't put it past them for the ability of romantic love. That makes it a natural phenomenon right?
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I'd like to think so
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As in, do animals experience romantic love?

Maybe? I mean we hear enough about animals becoming inseparable as a friendship kind of love sort of thing, I wouldn't put it past them for the ability of romantic love. That makes it a natural phenomenon right?
Well it could just be attachment, isn't it? which is also a form of love. it not romantic really.
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I have personally felt the emotion "romantic love", so yeah it exists. Why would you think it doesn't? Unless you're talking about it being somehow spiritual or something?
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I'd like to think so
Which makes me think it's more of a consciences decision than a feeling.
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(Original post by KingStannis)
I have personally felt the emotion "romantic love", so yeah it exists. Why would you think it doesn't? Unless you're talking about it being somehow spiritual or something?
Or maybe it's lust, desire or infatuation.
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(Original post by KingStannis)
I have personally felt the emotion "romantic love", so yeah it exists. Why would you think it doesn't? Unless you're talking about it being somehow spiritual or something?
(meant to be part of the first message but oh well!)

I'm talking about it from a "natural-subconsciences" level, where you can't help but, you have know control of who you have these feelings for.
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Love is a social construction. There is no such thing as everlasting love. At least not in our youngest generation. We live in a life of instant gratification. It's pathetic how people give up on relationships once the initial buzz and novelty wears off. People wanting to get rich quick without the effort. People just giving up if it gets tough.

The day I meet someone who doesn't have the need to view women like a quick mcdonalds meal through porn.
Stating that they need "variety" like a menu to pick from. A person who views you as a whole person. Someone who doesn't desire to think about other women sexually while they are physically with you...If I ever see that I might be convinced there is such a thing as romantic love.

Until then I am convinced it is an artificial social construction. To me, there is no such thing as real ever lasting love, meaningful love between sexual partners.
The only real unconditional love I believe in is between your family - excluding your partner.
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Love is a social construction. There is no such thing as everlasting love. At least not in our youngest generation. We live in a life of instant gratification. It's pathetic how people give up on relationships once the initial buzz and novelty wears off. People wanting to get rich quick without the effort. People just giving up if it gets tough.

The day I meet someone who doesn't have the need to view women like a quick mcdonalds meal through porn.
Stating that they need "variety" like a menu to pick from. A person who views you as a whole person. Someone who doesn't desire to think about other women sexually while they are physically with you...If I ever see that I might be convinced there is such a thing as romantic love.

Until then I am convinced it is an artificial social construction. To me, there is no such thing as real ever lasting love, meaningful love between sexual partners.
The only real unconditional love I believe in is between your family - excluding your partner.
I agree.

But, I don't think you can stop your partner from about thinking sexual things about others other than you. For I do believe is an innate natural response.
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I agree.

But, I don't think you can stop your partner from about thinking sexual things about others other than you. For I do believe is an innate natural response.
This is not true. When I enter relationships, a switch goes off in my mind. I only ever thought about my partner. This is me being honest. I must be the only person.

I hate the way I am. I wish I could find other people attractive. It hurts me that they think of others when I am incapable of doing so. It's awful. If I felt sexually attracted to other people, it wouldn't affect me. Because I would know what it is like to mentally betray your loved one.
This is why I have given up on taking relationships seriously.
I trust nobody.
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Love is just an unreleased orgasm.
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This is not true. When I enter relationships, a switch goes off in my mind. I only ever thought about my partner. This is me being honest. I must be the only person.

I hate the way I am. I wish I could find other people attractive. It hurts me that they think of others when I am incapable of doing so. It's awful. If I felt sexually attracted to other people, it wouldn't affect me. Because I would know what it is like to mentally betray your loved one.
This is why I have given up on taking relationships seriously.
I trust nobody.
I think the human mind is very powerful. I think like most things in life (within reason) if you will it, it will happen.
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Love is just an unreleased orgasm.
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(Original post by NHM713)
I think the human mind is very powerful. I think like most things in life (within reason) if you will it, it will happen.
I believe this as well. Unfortunately I think a lot of people don't care for others but themselves, therefore they have selfish thoughts. I always used to put my partners first. Thinking of them first. Desiring them first. They might as well have been the only person in the world, that's how I treated them.

I might just be emotionally damaged from living in a household with infidelity, my father paying for sex behind my mothers back. It goes on. It might just be engrained into my mind to be loyal. Loyal is best. When in reality it isn't because you will get screwed over 99.9% of the time. Most relationships fail.
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I believe this as well. Unfortunately I think a lot of people don't care for others but themselves, therefore they have selfish thoughts. I always used to put my partners first. Thinking of them first. Desiring them first. They might as well have been the only person in the world, that's how I treated them.

I might just be emotionally damaged from living in a household with infidelity, my father paying for sex behind my mothers back. It goes on. It might just be engrained into my mind to be loyal. Loyal is best. When in reality it isn't because you will get screwed over 99.9% of the time. Most relationships fail.
Thing is your transferring your behaviour onto someone else, not everyone thinks the same way. That's why you have to really get to know someone, not just by what they say, but also, how they act.
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(Original post by NHM713)
(meant to be part of the first message but oh well!)

I'm talking about it from a "natural-subconsciences" level, where you can't help but, you have know control of who you have these feelings for.
You need to define the difference between infatuation and love.

If the experience, or emotion, of love exists, then no matter how it's created, or whether it has subconscious bollox going on, it's love. OF course, you could define love to be something supernatural, like soulmates or whatever, but i don't see the point.
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You need to define the difference between infatuation and love.

If the experience, or emotion, of love exists, then no matter how it's created, or whether it has subconscious bollox going on, it's love. OF course, you could define love to be something supernatural, like soulmates or whatever, but i don't see the point.
I would describe infatuation as that pull, that admiration, lightbulb moment when that person walks in the room.

and love as that attachment, that routine, that i can't go to sleep until.

i don't think of love as something supernatural or in that fairytale way. I don't particularly believe in soulmate either.
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Yes, yes there is. Extremely rare but nothing I haven't seen.
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Yes, yes there is. Extremely rare but nothing I haven't seen.
how come you can look at your partner and think "erhh!" if your romantically in love with them.
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