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"being a commie" wont make much difference, right?
Reply 2
If we were all cloned and exactly had exactly the same brains yes. But we are not, some are brighter than others, some are better looking exc. Someone always has to/wants to be in charge. It's just human nature. Life isn't fair, it's just something you have to get used to. There is no point trying to make it fair. :smile:
Reply 3
bougeoursie_Roo
yeah, great ideals n all, and atm if labour is meant to b left wing then my socialist heart is definately communist.
to the point, ne1 thought abt being a commie etc?

oh, and fo u think communism cud ever work?

Labour aren't the socialists they once were, their position has become fuzzy. I'd say, they're more of a centre party.

Don't let what they represent influence you, in terms of turning from a socialist into an out and out communist. Considering they probably don't really represent pure socialism, it'd be illogical to do so.
Louise_1988
There is no point trying to make it fair. :smile:

yeh i know, i prefer communism under Lenin, as it had a limited amount of capitalism, n in capitalism there was freedom to choose who u went out with etc, so looks aint go nething to do with it, also if sum1 is smarter they r put to use, trained to b doctors, scientists etc to benefit the rest
Alec
Labour aren't the socialists they once were, their position has become fuzzy. I'd say, they're more of a centre party.
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*scoff* more like centre-right
Reply 6
bougeoursie_Roo
*scoff* more like centre-right
Perhaps yes. It's open to interpretation.

The reason I reserve from saying centre-right, is because I don't think Tony Blair necessarily is representative of the party. Should Gordon Brown takeover, I'd imagine Labour would become more true to its roots.
Alec
Should Gordon Brown takeover, I'd imagine Labour would become more true to its roots.

blair wont step down till he voted out, which i reli hope will b next election, if not sooner...
Reply 8
bougeoursie_Roo
yeh i know, i prefer communism under Lenin, as it had a limited amount of capitalism, n in capitalism there was freedom to choose who u went out with etc, so looks aint go nething to do with it, also if sum1 is smarter they r put to use, trained to b doctors, scientists etc to benefit the rest

communism is, in theory, the ideal way to run a country. But the theory doesnt factor in two problems: humans are all different, and we are all selfish. Not everyone is willing to work as hard as they can for "the greater good", and we dont like being forced to do what those above us tell us to do.
Reply 9
Dickie
communism is, in theory, the ideal way to run a country. But the theory doesnt factor in two problems: humans are all different, and we are all selfish. Not everyone is willing to work as hard as they can for "the greater good", and we dont like being forced to do what those above us tell us to do.

Basically, communism is too good for us. :cool:
Reply 10
Can we stop the thread now

All that is going to happen for the next few pages is people saying

'Works in Theory, Not in Practice'

The majority of these people will have failed to ever read something such as the 'communist mainfesto' or have a signifcant grasp of any area surrounding political systems (all though some will - these will be a tiny minority)

End of thread.
Reply 11
corey
Can we stop the thread now

All that is going to happen for the next few pages is people saying

'Works in Theory, Not in Practice'

The majority of these people will have failed to ever read something such as the 'communist mainfesto' or have a signifcant grasp of any area surrounding political systems (all though some will - these will be a tiny minority)

End of thread.

and you *have* to read it?
Reply 12
Dickie
and you *have* to read it?

Well, I have. Freely available on the net, if you want to look it up.
*goes to bookshelf, gets his copy of the communist menifesto n sticks out his tongue at the monitor*
also, communism does work on a small scale, farms n stuff, they proven sucesses, corruption of the ideals only occur on mass
Reply 14
It's flawed as an ideal surely? It's grossly inefficient.
Reply 15
fishpaste
It's flawed as an ideal surely? It's grossly inefficient.

It's flawed, certainly.

People tend to emphasise the 'Works in Theory' argument, but I disagree with this entirely.

The theory that man will work for the common good goes against the tribal human instinct. An entire country is too large to consider one tribe, and there will be competitiveness within it, hence breaking down the entire structure of the ideal.
Reply 16
"blair wont step down till he voted out, which i reli hope will b next election, if not sooner..."

A comment of the same intelligence as most of his opponents.
Reply 17
Alec
It's flawed, certainly.

People tend to emphasise the 'Works in Theory' argument, but I disagree with this entirely.

The theory that man will work for the common good goes against the tribal human instinct. An entire country is too large to consider one tribe, and there will be competitiveness within it, hence breaking down the entire structure of the ideal.


'It works in theory...' talk drives me nuts, it's easy to pick gaping flaws in the theory. As you have.
Reply 18
bougeoursie_Roo
yeah, great ideals n all, and atm if labour is meant to b left wing then my socialist heart is definately communist.
to the point, ne1 thought abt being a commie etc?

oh, and fo u think communism cud ever work?


All my friends that grew up/lived in communist countries said it was fuc*in shit.
Many people have written books on this. I'm pretty sure I could write a 10 000 word essay on it. Suffice to say, any attempt to summerize the issue in a 50 word post is going to fail misereably.

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