Are you guarenteed to get a degree?

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I found out today that on my course if you get an overal of 30% they will give you a third class degree. Considering it is very easy to get 40% in assignments and about you have to about 20 times more work to get 60% this seems wrong.

On this evidence I would suggest accademicaly a 2:1 is worth a lot more than a 3rd than people realise.

It just seems to be like this:

3rd - Pretty easy, you can fail a few modules and get 40% in others and still get one.

2:2 - Have to put some effort in and have some knowledge of the subject

2:1 - Very hard work required and a lot of self motivation and resarch.

1st - You are a genius envied by everybody.
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you couldnt get 30% at my uni and get a degree. A third was 40% at the lowest
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you couldnt get 30% at my uni and get a degree. A third was 40% at the lowest
Yeah but there is compensation passes, which means you can get 40% just by getting compensation passes in modules.

Its probably more like 35%.
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On this evidence I would suggest accademicaly a 2:1 is worth a lot more than a 3rd than people realise.
Isn't this obvious? No-one wants a Turd if they can avoid it.
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just out of interest, how much work would actually be needed (in term of hours a day) to get a first?

of course i'd love to get a first at uni just like everyone else. but do people who get first have no life, or are just naturally gifted an put in the same amount of work as people who get 2:1's?
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Depends on what subject you do.
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I don't know how anybody can get a first, even the standard for a 2:1 seems extremely high. I was told the other day my tutor that my marks are outstanding, however I still am only averaging a 2:1.

Next year is pretty much going to be work work work with not much socialising. I spend about 5-6 hours a day solid doing work (with breaks in between for UKl works out at a 12 hour PC session a day) and will probably get around 60% overal. Just a 2:1.

If I wanted 40% than half an hour a day would be more than enough. There is so much competition in the 50%+ area.

I just hope employees realise this.
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Arguably, a first should be something you can't get by hard work alone, although 2.1s should be.
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Arguably, a first should be something you can't get by hard work alone, although 2.1s should be.
Yeah a 1st should be a special award for the very best. However a to get a 2:1 you also need very deep undstanding regardless of the subject or degree type.

The problem is their is a too big difference between a 60% 2:1 and a 69% 2:1 .The difference is huge but you still come out with the same result.
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(Original post by viviki)
you couldnt get 30% at my uni and get a degree. A third was 40% at the lowest
Same at Swansea. Below that you didn't get a degree at all.
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Yeah a 1st should be a special award for the very best. However a to get a 2:1 you also need very deep undstanding regardless of the subject or degree type.

The problem is their is a too big difference between a 60% 2:1 and a 69% 2:1 .The difference is huge but you still come out with the same result.
Tell me about it! Even more between a 60% 2i and a 76% 2i!!!
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Tell me about it! Even more between a 60% 2i and a 76% 2i!!!
That is a very big gap!
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That's scary! Is it that hard to get a first? At my interview, the admissions tutors gave me some stats for my department. Apparently around 25% get 1st and remaining 45 - 55% get 2i. However 10% also fail or drop out in the first year...
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That's scary! Is it that hard to get a first? At my interview, the admissions tutors gave me some stats for my department. Apparently around 25% get 1st and 70-80% get 2i. However 10% also fail or drop out in the first year...
70-80% get a 2.1? Why bother with the degree in that case?!
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That's scary! Is it that hard to get a first? At my interview, the admissions tutors gave me some stats for my department. Apparently around 25% get 1st and 70-80% get 2i. However 10% also fail or drop out in the first year...
BLOODY HELL! That's a high percentage of 1sts, and 2is for that matter - what uni is this?
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so 90% get 2.1 and above bloody hell. We had 2 1sts I think in my year I think and I graduated in 2001.
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BLOODY HELL! That's a high percentage of 1sts, and 2is for that matter - what uni is this?
25% 1st is not that high. The number of firsts given out by universities in recent years has been increasing!
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BLOODY HELL! That's a high percentage of 1sts, and 2is for that matter - what uni is this?
Imperial Mech Engineering dept. I dunno, isn't it even higher at oxbridge? Apparently this is due to a lot of very clever international students...
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so 90% get 2.1 and above bloody hell. We had 2 1sts I think in my year I think and I graduated in 2001.
Ah soz, i meant 70-80% 2is or above. bummer, must edit post.
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Imperial Mech Engineering dept. I dunno, isn't it even higher at oxbridge? Apparently this is due to a lot of very clever international students...
Hmmmm ... dodgy
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