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Jamie
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(Original post by Douglas)
To my knowledge, historically, tax cuts have led to increased investment, which leads to economic expansion, which leads to increased revenues.

It seems to me that if incoming revenues track an expanding GDP, everyone comes out ahead.

You know Kondar, the problem with you lefties is.....to shlt GWB, you really can't attack the economy, so you attack the military as a means to embarrass Bush. Most of you Iraqi war haters claim that you support our soldiers......yeah right.
can easily attack your economy, there is a massive deficit, huge debts, and no solution in sight
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Jamie
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(Original post by Douglas)
Farian, you might be right, but in the meantime, our ob/gyn's are paying $100,000 a year for malpractise insurance.
Its soooooooo stupid when you think about it. They are paying $100k/year insurance on the offchance that they screw up and have to pay someone else.
in the mean time x amount of that 100k is being skimmed off by accountants, auditors, stockholders...

Its just sooo wasteful.

I have same opinion about the global movement of spring water...
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Is it possible to be "less able" and yet still remain a "big fish in the pond"?
Sure, you know that. They stabbed Maximus in the leg with a poisoned dagger and he still decked the emperor. And then he went into the field and saw his wife and kids again. It was pretty cool. I particularly liked the musical score.
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drago di giada
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(Original post by Tomorrow2Day)
I'll reply, since my answer would have been broadly similar (though I would have mentioned a lot more than George Bush). But on the issue of George Bush alone:
Which other "Americans" do you hate?

(Original post by Tomorrow2Day)
The Iraq war?
He had congress' backing... couldn't have gone to war without it.

(Original post by Tomorrow2Day)
Killing Social Security?
Killing Medicare?
The 90% "phantom aid" figure?
That's what you call... WELFARE REFORM.. and if you ask any american conservative.. we're better-off without it. We already have a deficit that will cause social security recipients to use up all of our federal reserves before I become aged.

GET RID OF WELFARE SO FRIGGIN LAZY- AZZ B'OTCHES CAN'T SAP THE TAX PAYER REVENUE ANYMORE!!!
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(Original post by Tomorrow2Day)
Sure, you know that.
Im not the one that needs convincing.
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Nah, I like the accent on girls....

not the southern accent or storong NY accent....
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(Original post by Douglas)
To my knowledge, historically, tax cuts have led to increased investment, which leads to economic expansion, which leads to increased revenues.

It seems to me that if incoming revenues track an expanding GDP, everyone comes out ahead.

You know Kondar, the problem with you lefties is.....to shlt GWB, you really can't attack the economy, so you attack the military as a means to embarrass Bush. Most of you Iraqi war haters claim that you support our soldiers......yeah right.
Don't tell me that you're a Keynesian? Deficits do matter.

(Original post by foolfarian)
Its soooooooo stupid when you think about it. They are paying $100k/year insurance on the offchance that they screw up and have to pay someone else.
in the mean time x amount of that 100k is being skimmed off by accountants, auditors, stockholders...

Its just sooo wasteful.

I have same opinion about the global movement of spring water...
It's not stupid when a malpractice suit can end up costing millions.

(Original post by drago di giada)
That's what you call... WELFARE REFORM.. and if you ask any american conservative.. we're better-off without it. We already have a deficit that will cause social security recipients to use up all of our federal reserves before I become aged.

GET RID OF WELFARE SO FRIGGIN LAZY- AZZ B'OTCHES CAN'T SAP THE TAX PAYER REVENUE ANYMORE!!!
Social Security and Medicare are not welfare.
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(Original post by Bismarck)
Social Security and Medicare are not welfare.
They were still considering it welfare reform.
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Nah, I like the accent on girls....

not the southern accent or storong NY accent....
Except there are different types of accetns in the states...

South has a different one.. each state at least 2.

Now see.. us New Yorkers have many different accents.. there's the City accent from NYC, also the Western New Yorker accent.. a bit more.. educated you could say.. (ME!), and there are the adirondak accents.. along with many more..

No generalizing please.
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(Original post by drago di giada)
They were still considering it welfare reform.
Well, welfare is a handout to the poor, while Social Security and Medicare are given to those who pay the relevant taxes.

(Original post by drago di giada)
Except there are different types of accetns in the states...

South has a different one.. each state at least 2.

Now see.. us New Yorkers have many different accents.. there's the City accent from NYC, also the Western New Yorker accent.. a bit more.. educated you could say.. (ME!), and there are the adirondak accents.. along with many more..

No generalizing please.
Don't forget the Italian accent that's attributed to Brooklynites, though most of them have left to Jersey and Staten Island.
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(Original post by Bismarck)
Well, welfare is a handout to the poor, while Social Security and Medicare are given to those who pay the relevant taxes.



Don't forget the Italian accent that's attributed to Brooklynites, though most of them have left to Jersey and Staten Island.
The italian accent is also attributed to the buffalo area.. I'd know... I have a slight one.. although its not as pronounced as it used to be.

As for SS and Medicare.. they do consider it welfare reform.. it's all a part of it.. that and medicaid.
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(Original post by foolfarian)
can easily attack your economy, there is a massive deficit, huge debts, and no solution in sight
Farian, I've said this 100 times, our deficit as a percentage of the GDP is nominal, it is NOT high.
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Douglas
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(Original post by foolfarian)
They are paying $100k/year insurance on the offchance that they screw up and have to pay someone else....
Without tort reform, the payoff may be in the 100's of millions.


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Farian, I've said this 100 times, our deficit as a percentage of the GDP is nominal, it is NOT high.
Our trade deficit has decreased in the last century or so, BUT it is still high..

And we have HUGE debts.. like I said.. we are the #1 debtor nation in the world.
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(Original post by Douglas)
Farian, I've said this 100 times, our deficit as a percentage of the GDP is nominal, it is NOT high.
The deficit is the highest it's been since Bush's father was in office, and the net increase in the deficit (as percentage of GDP) from 2000 to 2004 is probably the highest since WWII.

(Original post by drago di giada)
Our trade deficit has decreased in the last century or so, BUT it is still high..

And we have HUGE debts.. like I said.. we are the #1 debtor nation in the world.
We didn't have a trade deficit until '71. Now it's over 6% of GDP.

(Original post by drago di giada)
The italian accent is also attributed to the buffalo area.. I'd know... I have a slight one.. although its not as pronounced as it used to be.

As for SS and Medicare.. they do consider it welfare reform.. it's all a part of it.. that and medicaid.
Medicaid is health insurance for the poor, which means that it is welfare. Social Security and Medicare are not given exclusively to the poor.
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Douglas
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Don't tell me that you're a Keynesian? Deficits do matter..
True, but as long as they're kept at a reasonable percentage of GDP, what's the problem?

With the exception of the explosive .com 90's, deficits have been running from say.....4% to 7% for decades.
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(Original post by Bismarck)
Medicaid is health insurance for the poor, which means that it is welfare. Social Security and Medicare are not given exclusively to the poor.
Not exclusively to the poor.. but they are benifits the poor can and usually do receive.. esp. when they are on disability.

(Original post by Bismarck)
We didn't have a trade deficit until '71. Now it's over 6% of GDP.
Trade deficit.. we export more than we import.
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(Original post by drago di giada)
They were still considering it welfare reform.
Welfare reform was hammered through congress in the 90's. It has nothing to do with SS and medicare
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True, but as long as they're kept at a reasonable percentage of GDP, what's the problem?

With the exception of the explosive .com 90's, deficits have been running from say.....4% to 7% for decades.
No, they haven't. With the exception of the two World Wars and the '80s, America hasn't run a consistent deficit of over 3-4% for this long. 3-4% deficit is manageable if it's during a recession (presumably as a result of spending increases or tax cuts to get an economy out of it), but not under normal circumstances. What happens if there is another recession? Will we increase our 4% deficit by another 4%? Will an 8% deficit be manageable? And that ignores the skyrocketing costs of Medicare and and Social Security, with Bush being personally responsible for the former.
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(Original post by Douglas)
Welfare reform was hammered through congress in the 90's. It has nothing to do with SS and medicare
Presidents and congress have been attempting welfare reform for decades, and none of been successful this far.. that doesn't mean anything.
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