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(Original post by spikdboy)
Could your reply be any more useless?
"Could your reply be any more useless?"

Could've said that...
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And what national laws would that be.
The freedom of information act for starters. Just because Bush doesn’t like the news, doesn’t mean he can censor it.
Kondar, you've just committed a logical fallacy, an ad hominum attack. You've been doing that quite a lot lately. I can blow your argument away by citing numerous cases where the info is kept secret. Let's start with Kerry's military records.
Douglas, Im afraid you lost me dear boy. What on gods earth are you talking about?
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I had the best holiday ever in America. Everyone seemed genuinely polite, not really an intimidation on the streets, alot of pride, even people working in subway seemed proud of their position, which is nice. I thinks its ridiculous to **** off "americans" based on the decisions of george bush, and also most americans that we see on the news, in films etc are only a weeny percentage of what is a massive nation so no1 can really judge, not even me since i only went to Florida, where as people in Texas might be complete ass holes.
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Kondar, you've just committed a logical fallacy, an ad hominum attack. You've been doing that quite a lot lately. I can blow your argument away by citing numerous cases where the info is kept secret. Let's start with Kerry's military records.
Are you referring to Kerry's refusal to sign form 180? This would have released a lot of information to the public such as his military records, journals, and medical records.
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I had the best holiday ever in America. Everyone seemed genuinely polite, not really an intimidation on the streets, alot of pride, even people working in subway seemed proud of their position, which is nice. I thinks its ridiculous to **** off "americans" based on the decisions of george bush, and also most americans that we see on the news, in films etc are only a weeny percentage of what is a massive nation so no1 can really judge, not even me since i only went to Florida, where as people in Texas might be complete ass holes.
Yeah.. texans are *******s . Floridans aren't as bad.
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Yeah.. texans are *******s . Floridans aren't as bad.
i put texas randomly, forgetting that george bush is texan what a coincidence
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(Original post by sahsum)
I had the best holiday ever in America. Everyone seemed genuinely polite, not really an intimidation on the streets, alot of pride, even people working in subway seemed proud of their position, which is nice. I thinks its ridiculous to **** off "americans" based on the decisions of george bush, and also most americans that we see on the news, in films etc are only a weeny percentage of what is a massive nation so no1 can really judge, not even me since i only went to Florida, where as people in Texas might be complete ass holes.
Florida is as good place as any to get a feel for America. Florida's political culture and racial profile almost exactly mirrors the nation's.

Oh, and you would love Texas. Texans are very friendly.
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(Original post by Made in the USA)
Florida is as good place as any to get a feel for America. Florida's political culture and racial profile almost exactly mirrors the nation's.

Oh, and you would love Texas. Texans are very friendly.
cool, I'm def going back to america, hopefully for a while to do some travelling or perhaps I'll take a year placement if possible with my uni course!
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(Original post by Made in the USA)
Florida is as good place as any to get a feel for America. Florida's political culture and racial profile almost exactly mirrors the nation's.

Oh, and you would love Texas. Texans are very friendly.
Texans are friendly. But they are usually boring. They usually don't have a sense of humor. Texans are about the least likable people (probably especially to Brits).
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Arizona is better than Texas.
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I would never HATE Americans, but their ignorance can be really frustrating sometimes.

I find that many Americans are extremely defensive if you try to debate anything about their actions around the world. Even well-educated people who are normally very friendly and open-minded can become angry if you try to question what they're doing in other countries, the way their lifestyle affects the world, etc.

I guess it's mostly because of the education system that indoctrinates patriotism, but who knows.

You've gotta hand it to Bush though, who else could pull off turning anyone who speaks out against the war into a "traitor"? As if speaking against the President is somehow no longer allowed in the country that says it values personal freedom and expression more than anywhere else in the world.
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I would never HATE Americans, but their ignorance can be really frustrating sometimes.

I find that many Americans are extremely defensive if you try to debate anything about their actions around the world. Even well-educated people who are normally very friendly and open-minded can become angry if you try to question what they're doing in other countries, the way their lifestyle affects the world, etc.

I guess it's mostly because of the education system that indoctrinates patriotism, but who knows.
You have to look at it from the American perspective. It's nearly impossible for an American to speak to a foreigner without said foreigner bringing the topic up. As a general rule, Americans don't even like foreign policy, so imagine being continually forced to discuss something that you dislike. If an American encounters a foreigner, it is rare for the American to bring up the foreigner's homeland's current foreign skirmishes, because it is considered impolite.
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(Original post by psychic_satori)
You have to look at it from the American perspective. It's nearly impossible for an American to speak to a foreigner without said foreigner bringing the topic up. As a general rule, Americans don't even like foreign policy, so imagine being continually forced to discuss something that you dislike. If an American encounters a foreigner, it is rare for the American to bring up the foreigner's homeland's current foreign skirmishes, because it is considered impolite.
I was making fun of the Ecuadorian political system while talking to an Ecuadorian sailor the day after his president got overthrown. He didn't seem to mind.

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You've gotta hand it to Bush though, who else could pull off turning anyone who speaks out against the war into a "traitor"? As if speaking against the President is somehow no longer allowed in the country that says it values personal freedom and expression more than anywhere else in the world.
Not again. Who did Bush call a traitor? A third of Americans oppose the war you know. I don't recall Bush calling a single one of them a traitor. If foreigners were not so ignorant about the US political system, perhaps Americans wouldn't get so mad when hearing these foreigners spout nonsense?
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(Original post by Made in the USA)
Are you referring to Kerry's refusal to sign form 180? This would have released a lot of information to the public such as his military records, journals, and medical records.
Yes, specifically his military medical records. We need to pin down the type of bandaids used.
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I was making fun of the Ecuadorian political system while talking to an Ecuadorian sailor the day after his president got overthrown. He didn't seem to mind.
But were you speaking in Spanish or English?
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I find that many Americans are extremely defensive if you try to debate anything about their actions around the world. Even well-educated people who are normally very friendly and open-minded can become angry if you try to question what they're doing in other countries, the way their lifestyle affects the world, etc.
I guess it's mostly because of the education system that indoctrinates patriotism, but who knows.
If you look at this forum, the Americans take a lot of abuse, and handle it quite well.
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But were you speaking in Spanish or English?
No wonder he was nodding at regular intervals. :eek:
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If you look at this forum, the Americans take a lot of abuse, and handle it quite well.
Some Americans are even abusing themselves!

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No wonder he was nodding at regular intervals. :eek:
I always love talking to non-English speakers...they make me feel like such a genius when they do that clueless head bobbing.
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I would never HATE Americans, but their ignorance can be really frustrating sometimes.

I find that many Americans are extremely defensive if you try to debate anything about their actions around the world. Even well-educated people who are normally very friendly and open-minded can become angry if you try to question what they're doing in other countries, the way their lifestyle affects the world, etc.
evilcitizen, the reason I get defensive is because I'm frequently confounded by the appalling ignorance foreigners have regarding my country. I don't think any Americans would not get annoyed reading comments like the ones you've made below:

(Original post by evilcitizen)
You've gotta hand it to Bush though, who else could pull off turning anyone who speaks out against the war into a "traitor"? As if speaking against the President is somehow no longer allowed in the country that says it values personal freedom and expression more than anywhere else in the world.
Many Americans are against the war. Everytime you turn on the TV or walk outside, you meet people that are anti-war. We have plenty of politicians that were against the war for a variety of different reasons. Michael Moore makes "documentaries" using made up facts & figures, staged incidents, cut & pasted together speeches, and footage taken completely out of context. Who says free speech isn't alive and well in the USA?
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