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    I am from NY...
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    even if you are American i reckon you can still have a problem with the way the country is run....i don't hate Americans i just find their manner is slightly different to ours(if i can generalise)the ones i've met have seemed pretty brash....really direct with their opinions and overly ambitious.i think that English people are pretty scathing about Americans because they expect to have some similarity with them (what with the language thing) and it's odd when you find this isn't always the case.it's interesting how Americans view the English much more favourably...
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    If you don't mind me asking?

    How many americans have you met, what age were they, and why do you think people in the UK expect america to be similar to the UK? Igf it's just becuase they speak english, that doesn't explain it at all, becuase most of India speaks english too, and they don't expect the culture to be the "same"
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    (Original post by djchak)
    If you don't mind me asking?

    How many americans have you met, what age were they, and why do you think people in the UK expect america to be similar to the UK? Igf it's just becuase they speak english, that doesn't explain it at all, becuase most of India speaks english too, and they don't expect the culture to be the "same"
    whoa!wasn't trying to cause offence!i did say i didn't want to generalise.im have to do a paper on the differences (real or perceived) between our races and these personality differnces have come up alot in papers etc. i have read.i read a really interesting paper actually on how differences in American/English approaches to work cause problems in the workplace- there are differences-a different 'work ethic' a different view towards traits such a s competitveness etc.there is a difference in culture which surely leads to other differenceit really was not a criticism.
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    sorry...forgot to say something .what i meant with the similarity thing was that...there is no doubt both races expect more of a common bond than say if we were speaking to someone who spoke a totally different language.However, there are more linguistic and cultural differences thatn you think and this can lead to disillusion...well that's too strong a word but you know what i mean.anyway this is just what i've read and i see some truth in it.
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    (Original post by Spig)
    even if you are American i reckon you can still have a problem with the way the country is run....i don't hate Americans i just find their manner is slightly different to ours(if i can generalise)the ones i've met have seemed pretty brash....really direct with their opinions and overly ambitious.i think that English people are pretty scathing about Americans because they expect to have some similarity with them (what with the language thing) and it's odd when you find this isn't always the case.it's interesting how Americans view the English much more favourably...
    Are we really that different though? If the cultures were really that different, English people wouldn't enjoy our TV and movies.

    As for the national anglophilia....I have no idea why Americans admire England, its people, and its culture so much.
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    i hate their government
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    Are we really that different though? If the cultures were really that different, English people wouldn't enjoy our TV and movies.

    As for the national anglophilia....I have no idea why Americans admire England, its people, and its culture so much.
    you seem to think there are some differences because you say Americans admire our culture implying that the English's culture is different.i don't think we are majorly different...we are becoming more alike.i just think there are some differences which can cause problems.i found it funny the other day when i was chatting to this American guy and every 5 mins we were like 'what does that mean?'it was weird since essentially we were speaking the same language.he also had a real problem with my sarcasm...he either didn't get it or thought i was the rudest person on earth!im not saying he's a typical American, it was just an example.
    why do you have no idea why Americans like our culture?i have a theory on it but i think you'll find it offensive..anyway,i think it's because some American's feel a bit 'cultureless' whereas in England, we still have our black taxis red buses and stuff-we kept a bit of our heritage as time passed...although this is getting eroded -i don't like how more and more english people say american phrases like '24..7' and stuf.it feels weird to me .kind of like if an American saying mate all the time.

    one thing i will say though( and i heard Jerry Springer of all people saying this! )is that there are greater cultural differences between the rich and poor in England and America than there are between our races as a whole...what i mean is there's little cultural similarity between a posh fox hunting Englishmen and some English kid without much money who's kind of into the 'chav' culture.
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    As for the national anglophilia....I have no idea why Americans admire England, its people, and its culture so much.
    That's not nice. I like these strange people.
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    (Original post by Made in the USA)
    Are we really that different though? If the cultures were really that different, English people wouldn't enjoy our TV and movies.

    As for the national anglophilia....I have no idea why Americans admire England, its people, and its culture so much.
    I didn't think they did..... :confused: I think we are very different, in terms of attitude and humour.
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    (Original post by Spig)
    don't like how more and more english people say american phrases like '24..7' and stuf.
    I agree. Don't get me wrong, i've got nothing against how Americans use the language, that's their culture, but it really grates on me when British people use American phrases like 'kick back', 'chill' and 'guys' - or use that 'L' for loser sign. It makes me want to punch them. Tony Blair saying 'period' also springs to mind. Yuck. Shakespeare would be turning in his grave at the thought of English people *******ising the language in this irksome way.
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    (Original post by naivesincerity)
    I agree. Don't get me wrong, i've got nothing against how Americans use the language, that's their culture, but it really grates on me when British people use American phrases like 'kick back', 'chill' and 'guys' - or use that 'L' for loser sign. It makes me want to punch them. Tony Blair saying 'period' also springs to mind. Yuck. Shakespeare would be turning in his grave at the thought of English people *******ising the language in this irksome way.
    This nationalist nonsense coming from a supposed socialist is ludicrous. Who the hell cares how people speak? Are you so obtuse that you care more about form than substance? Apparently multiculturalism is good, but as soon as your people start adopting some aspects of other cultures, the world is coming to an end and the government should line them up and shoot them.
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    (Original post by naivesincerity)
    I agree. Don't get me wrong, i've got nothing against how Americans use the language, that's their culture, but it really grates on me when British people use American phrases like 'kick back', 'chill' and 'guys' - or use that 'L' for loser sign. It makes me want to punch them. Tony Blair saying 'period' also springs to mind. Yuck. Shakespeare would be turning in his grave at the thought of English people *******ising the language in this irksome way.
    Well then I'd expect your posts to be in Shakespearean English from now on.
    It's a different dialect of English, we are free to speak it how we want. When Webster wrote the first American English dictionary, he purposely made those changes--colour to color, paediatric to pediatric--in an attempt to make English stand on its own as a language and shed the traces of Latin and French influence. I think that was a pretty cool idea and has helped generations of children in spelling I'm sure.

    Anyway, as an American who lived in the UK for 6 months, a lot of people either love it or hate it. Many have them have never been, or maybe they've been to NYC or something. I really love London and want to move there actually, but I did realize that Americans are infinitely friendlier than the Brits on average. When you go to Sainsbury's and ask for help bagging, the people look at you as if they were personally offended. In the US customer service is much more important. The Welsh were friendlier than the English (sorry!).
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    Most people here who call you 'sir' have either served in the military or are currently serving in it.. We have little respect here.. but then again, most people don't.
    Are you from West New York, NJ? I'm from Jersey...
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    (Original post by NakedNinja123)
    Is it because we are the land of opportunity where no matter what race, religion, or even sex you are you can be successful?
    It always mystifies me that many American's seem to think that there's less social mobility in other countries, and more discrimination. America has just as much of a class system as Australia or Europe, and i'd guess just as many problems with race relations and discrimination.
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    (Original post by shady lane)
    Well then I'd expect your posts to be in Shakespearean English from now on.
    It's a different dialect of English, we are free to speak it how we want. .
    Did you read my post?-that's precisley what i said(assuming you are American, which you told me you were). I was referring to Brits using American terminology.
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    (Original post by naivesincerity)
    It always mystifies me that many American's seem to think that there's less social mobility in other countries, and more discrimination. America has just as much of a class system as Australia or Europe, and i'd guess just as many problems with race relations and discrimination.
    Class does not exist in the US, and anyone who's been there would realize that pretty quickly.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    This nationalist nonsense coming from a supposed socialist is ludicrous. Who the hell cares how people speak? Are you so obtuse that you care more about form than substance? Apparently multiculturalism is good, but as soon as your people start adopting some aspects of other cultures, the world is coming to an end and the government should line them up and shoot them.
    Would you like it if everyone in your city started saying things like 'tally ho chaps, what a spiffing day'?.If nationalistic means wanting to have a national identity and culture distinct from America, then i guess i am. Is it such a sin?
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Class does not exist in the US, and anyone who's been there would realize that pretty quickly.
    When i say class, i mean a person's oppurtunity being influenced by financial backing.
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    (Original post by naivesincerity)
    Would you like it if everyone in your city started saying things like 'tally ho chaps, what a spiffing day'?.
    I wouldn't give a damn. Why should I care how people speak as long as I could understand them? Why don't you speak Old English or at least Middle English? Too lazy?

    If nationalistic means wnating have a national identity and culture distinct from America, then i guess i am. Is it such a sin?
    It makes you a national socialist. I'm sure you're delighted with that title.

    (Original post by naivesincerity)
    When i say class, i mean a person's oppurtunity being influenced by financial backing.
    There is no healthy person in the US who cannot make it to the top of the business and/or political world if they put in enough effort.
 
 
 
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