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(Original post by Lone Fox)
No, all American tourists THAT YOU NOTICE are those things. Logically, you would notice ones like that to a far larger extent than you would notice American tourists who may be quieter, more reserved and keep more to themselves. Which renders your viewpoint entirely pointless with a huge flaw in the reasoning. Who knows why you have 6 red blocks...
********. I just don't like Americans.
Oh, and my girlfriend is American.
Why should I give a ****?
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How? Intuitively? You can't have met them all. And you can't judge just on the example of their government, because with such a tightly-fought election it only represents about 50% of the 80% (I think - correct be if this turnout figure is wrong) of Americans who voted.
Polls consistently showed Bush in the lead. What makes you think that the 40% who didn't vote didn't support Bush? Just admit that Bush had the support of a majority of the American people instead of playing semantics games. Of course that might lead you to the inevitable conclusion that claiming to hate the American government but not the American people is logically inconsistent.
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(Original post by Lone Fox)
You are wrong, Agent Smith
Turnout in the US is nowhere near the 80% mark. In the 2004 Presidential election it was only around 60% and that was significantly up on the turnout in 2000 which was only around 50%.
Blimey. I thought the intensity of the contest had pushed the apathy down far more than that. Never mind.
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Why would people who supported Bush not vote for him?

That aside, I do concede that he won fairly.
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(Original post by Agent Smith)
Blimey. I thought the intensity of the contest had pushed the apathy down far more than that. Never mind.
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Why would people who supported Bush not vote for him?

That aside, I do concede that he won fairly.
Because voting is tallied by state, so if you are a republican living in a solid "blue state," or a democrat living in a solid "red state," you're not going to make much of a difference in the outcome.
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I really don't hate Americans as a people, and I even know some people who are nice. I bet most of them are just ordinary people like in any country.

Anyway, I can't hide my unpleasant feelings towards the US leaders and government so I was forced to answer "yes". Sorry mates.
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(Original post by Salla)
I really don't hate Americans as a people, and I even know some people who are nice. I bet most of them are just ordinary people like in any country.

Anyway, I can't hide my unpleasant feelings towards the US leaders and government so I was forced to answer "yes". Sorry mates.
So your dislike of the few tarnishes your opinion of the many?

I love the utter lack of reason in this thread.
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(Original post by Agent Smith)
Why would people who supported Bush not vote for him?

That aside, I do concede that he won fairly.
Why would people who oppose Bush not vote against him? Most people just don't care enough about politics to turn out to vote.

As I said, every poll before the election showed Bush with a 5-10% lead.
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(Original post by Bismarck)
Why would people who oppose Bush not vote against him? Most people just don't care enough about politics to turn out to vote.

As I said, every poll before the election showed Bush with a 5-10% lead.
By and large, yes. But I would have thought that the tightness of the 2004 election would have made more people care, if only temporarily.
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(Original post by psychic_satori)
So your dislike of the few tarnishes your opinion of the many?
No, my opinion of your crook politicians (buah) doesn't really change my overall view of Americans. Like I said, my vote was kind of a protest. Sorry, just couldn't help myself. Your country has been stigmatised, I'm afraid. There are lots of foolish and credulous people around there. It's a bit sad actually.
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(Original post by Salla)
No, my opinion of your crook politicians (buah) doesn't really change my overall view of Americans. Like I said, my vote was kind of a protest. Sorry, just couldn't help myself. Your country has been stigmatised, I'm afraid. There are lots of foolish and credulous people around there. It's a bit sad actually.
There are lots of foolish and credulous people everywhere. Even in Finland.

Edit: It's not much of a protest when 1/3 of the population that agrees with you.
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(Original post by Salla)
No, my opinion of your crook politicians (buah) doesn't really change my overall view of Americans. Like I said, my vote was kind of a protest. Sorry, just couldn't help myself. Your country has been stigmatised, I'm afraid. There are lots of foolish and credulous people around there. It's a bit sad actually.
What are you protesting against?
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(Original post by psychic_satori)
There are lots of foolish and credulous people everywhere. Even in Finland.

Edit: It's not much of a protest when 1/3 of the population that agrees with you.
Yeah well, Finns are hillbillies, we don't understand anything about anything. Why do you think I'm moving out of here?? :D

Nevertheless, I think there must be a protest if majority still doesn't agree? ;P I think you are taking it a bit too personally. It's not like I was spitting on your face or anything. I just have my twisted opinion on Americans. (But hey, I'm from Finland, what do I know..)
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What are you protesting against?
Stupidity?
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(Original post by Agent Smith)
By and large, yes. But I would have thought that the tightness of the 2004 election would have made more people care, if only temporarily.
It did; that's why the turnout increased from 50% to 60%.
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(Original post by Salla)
Yeah well, Finns are hillbillies, we don't understand anything about anything. Why do you think I'm moving out of here??

Nevertheless, I think there must be a protest if majority still doesn't agree? ;P I think you are taking it a bit too personally. It's not like I was spitting on your face or anything. I just have my twisted opinion on Americans. (But hey, I'm from Finland, what do I know..)
No, it takes a lot more than that to offend me. It's debate and discussion. If we can't do either of those, then we might as well be fondling our way around GC.
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(Original post by Salla)
Stupidity?
Of?
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why's he a moron? letterman fan??
Leno's humor is very sophomoric.
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(Original post by The-Lennon)
i dont hate americans......... but i CANT STAND THE ACCENT.
As if the "common" British accents are that much better? It seems many of you guys have lisps.
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(Original post by The-Lennon)
why's he a moron? letterman fan??
Well I think Conan O' Brien is the man, despite the stupid Irish-American banter that occasionally occurs.
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As if the "common" British accents are that much better? It seems many of you guys have lisps.
lisps? who has a lisp? Apart from Jonathan Ross, some presenter you people have never heard of.

Nasty anglophobia is not acceptable on a UK website :mad:
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(Original post by The-Lennon)
i dont hate americans......... but i CANT STAND THE ACCENT. Ive got sky tv and i love american tv shows especialy jay leno and conan o'brien... and I don't notice the accent on tv......

but at uni....... the americans here seem to have a really strong accent..... just because theyre with british ppl. Why is the accent different in person than when on tv/????????
Which Uni are you at? There aren't that many Americans in most Unis, even though the UK is the number one destination, simply because a lot of Americans don't want to go on exchange programs, and there certainly aren't a lot who do their whole degree here.

Maybe you're talking about those awful, attempted American accents by international students who think that watching 70 re-runs of Friends means they're in some position to imitate an American accent.
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lisps? who has a lisp? Apart from Jonathan Ross, some presenter you people have never heard of.

Nasty anti-anglophobia is not acceptable on a UK website :mad:
haha A tooth for a tooth I reckon. Anti-anglophobia?

Well the more "common" accents tend to have a less concise pronunciation of "s" and "sh." For example, when one states "I was" it somehow becomes "I wush"...or something to that extent.
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haha A tooth for a tooth I reckon. Anti-anglophobia?

Well the more "common" accents tend to have a less concise pronunciation of "s" and "sh." For example, when one states "I was" it somehow becomes "I wush"...or something to that extent.
Well the American mafioso accent (watching the Sopranos) has that too: "I was" becomes "I waj" and you have problems pronouncing "t"s.

Try to make an American say the word "frustrated". lol that's great fun. The attempt's usually "FERUSTRATED" and they even get frustrated repeating it, as they struggle. LOL.

Or they can't say Worcester Sauce :rolleyes: despite the fact they also have a town called Worcester, the second biggest in Massachusetts too.
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...and that New Yorker accent: the boss becomes the "bosh".

yes the "anti-anglophobia" comment did make me look silly
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