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This is very good, I feel that maybe if some of you who voted yes, on this poll were to read this.. you may change your view of americans in general.. and not just our politicians. Enjoy.
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Love him or loath him, he nailed this one right on the head.............

By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between
victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die
serving the country in Uniform are profound. No one
is really talking about it either, because you just
don't criticize anything having to do with September
11. Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by
because it says something really disturbing about the
entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a
family member in the September 11 attack, you're going
to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a
minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7
million.

If you are a surviving family member of an American
soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a
$6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable..
Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are
the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you
remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for
each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those
payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting
an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are
complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were
tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong
place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in
harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families
know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the
victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an
organization asking for the same deal that the
September 11 families are getting. In addition to
that, some of the families of those bombed in the
embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this
is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement
politics in this country. It's just really sad.
Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they
usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the
green machine is in combat in the Middle East while
their families have to survive on food stamps and live
in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a
raise, and many of you don't know that they only have
to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that
is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now equal
to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive
Social Security on retirement because they didn't have
to pay into the system.

If some of the military people stay in for 20 years
and get out as an E-7, you may receive a pension of
$1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you
in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month.
I would like to see our elected officials pick up a
weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out
benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters
who are now fighting.

"When do we finally do something about this?" If this
doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this
to as many people as you can.If your interested there
is more........................

This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going.
SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. It's short
and to the point.)

Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during
election years. Our Senators and Congressmen do not
pay into Social Security. Many years ago they voted
in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no
congressperson has felt the need to change it. For
all practical purposes their plan works like this:

When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay
until they die, except it may increase from time to
time for cost of living adjustments. For example,
former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their
wives may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven
Million, Eight Hundred Thousand), with their wives
drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their
lives.

This is calculated on an average life span for each.

Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These
little perks they voted for themselves is free to
them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan.

The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly
from the General Fund--our tax dollars at work! From our own Social
Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into
-- every payday until we retire (which amount is
matched by our employer) --we can expect to get an
average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in
other words, we would have to collect our average of
$1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one month to
equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!

Social Security could be very good if only one small
change were made. And that change would be to jerk
the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the
Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social
Security plan with the rest of us and then watch how
fast they would fix it.

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of
awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will
evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a difference..
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Rush Limbaugh - thatd be the guy who blames the gays for destroying the sanctity of marriage while having undergone three divorces himself. He can GTF.
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That said, hes speaking a lot of sense for once there. Interesting post drago.
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(Original post by an Siarach)
That said, hes speaking a lot of sense for once there. Interesting post drago.
Interesting indeed. However, what is its relevance in this thread?
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Interesting indeed. However, what is its relevance in this thread?
None, drago=naive.
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I hate americans but not in general. there are some good but the leaders mistake reflects on the secoity.
americans are really cruel and savage with people look at what happend in the abu graib prison, the slavery that came from africa, the red indians which where the native people of the country and now are the least of the population , etc of this **** :cool: .
but as i said not all are the same!!!!
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(Original post by b1ank)
I hate americans but not in general. there are some good but the leaders mistake reflects on the secoity.
americans are really cruel and savage with people look at what happend in the abu graib prison, the slavery that came from africa, the red indians which where the native people of the country and now are the least of the population , etc of this **** :cool: .
but as i said not all are the same!!!!
yeah since every single one of us was at abu graib, i can see how that reflects all of us :rolleyes:
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yeah since every single one of us was at abu graib, i can see how that reflects all of us :rolleyes:
Not every Nazi was at a KZ camp. Do you think that only those that were, should be denounced?
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Not every Nazi was at a KZ camp. Do you think that only those that were, should be denounced?
tell me how the rest of the US population are also rather sadistic abusers of authority and ill come close to considering your point.
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(Original post by b1ank)
hate americans but not in general. there are some good but the leaders mistake reflects on the secoity.
americans are really cruel and savage with people look at what happend in the abu graib prison, the slavery that came from africa, the red indians which where the native people of the country and now are the least of the population , etc of this **** :cool: .
but as i said not all are the same!!!!
please change your font. the standard issue is acceptable.
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(Original post by vienna95)
tell me how the rest of the US population are also rather sadistic abusers of authority and ill come close to considering your point.
I am merely pointing out that supporting a sadistic and self-serving regime reflects badly upon you. It is not necessary for every american to be in Iraq for them to be blamed.
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(Original post by PadFoot90)
yeah since every single one of us was at abu graib, i can see how that reflects all of us :rolleyes:
Padfoot, for some reasons, you seem to think that you need to know everyone of 'something' in order to say you dislike/hate something, but it just isn't the case.
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(Original post by oldthrashbarg)
I am merely pointing out that supporting a sadistic and self-serving regime reflects badly upon you. It is not necessary for every american to be in Iraq for them to be blamed.
i) the actions of this minority is not reflective of the US administration or 'regime'.

ii) "Not every Nazi was at a KZ camp". you suggested US citizens were implicated in or supporters of such abuse.
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(Original post by TheWolf)
Padfoot, for some reasons, you seem to think that you need to know everyone of 'something' in order to say you dislike/hate something, but it just isn't the case.
i believe Padfoot is correct in highlighting this nonsense, "americans are really cruel and savage with people", and the complete lack of qualification provided for it. or do you agree with that statement as holding true for its subject?
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i) the actions of this minority is not reflective of the US administration or 'regime'.
Is this a question, or your opinion? Since the elected government of the US is to blame for these atrocities, the americans who do not support them ought to actively speak out against them.


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ii) "Not every Nazi was at a KZ camp". you suggested US citizens were implicated in or supporters of such abuse.
Yes. They are supporting it indirectly
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yeah since every single one of us was at abu graib, i can see how that reflects all of us :rolleyes:
American **** licker!
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(Original post by oldthrashbarg)
Is this a question, or your opinion? Since the elected government of the US is to blame for these atrocities
the US military is responsible for the actions of its soldiers, not the elected government.

, the americans who do not support them ought to actively speak out against them.
the US media, politicians of every nature, icons and celebrities, ordinary citizens coast to coast condemned these acts, unless youre now going to contradict yourself and ask Padfoot to provide 500+ million statements.

Yes. They are supporting it indirectly
The German public did little to remove Hitler, certainly guilty of connivance but the majority were not Nazis because they were not implicated or advocates of such behaviour. Less so, the American public are not supporters of such abuse at Abu Ghraib. what exactly were they supporting, other than 99% of a respectable military force?
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American **** licker!
ok...
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That said, hes speaking a lot of sense for once there. Interesting post drago.
Why thank you.

As for the relevance to this thread.. alot of people hate americans.. so many, in fact.. that its unnerving. That post shows some of the hardships that americans go through.. cope with.. etc.
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None, drago=naive.
Wow.. how was that for a post ladies and gents? Real debat winner there! Why thank you mr.. lmao.. SCHITT! For your very relevent comment. Lets grow up a bit before we make another post like that.. ok?.. thanks. :rolleyes:
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