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    (Original post by b1ank)
    I hate americans but not in general. there are some good but the leaders mistake reflects on the secoity.
    americans are really cruel and savage with people look at what happend in the abu graib prison, the slavery that came from africa, the red indians which where the native people of the country and now are the least of the population , etc of this **** :cool: .
    but as i said not all are the same!!!!
    I'm an american.. I am an american n8ive. Whats you're point here? My natonality.. even though it is "red indian" as you so eloquently put it.. has nothing to do with my character. Who I am. You say we are the least of the population.. yes, this is true, but that doesn't mean that all WHITE americans are heartless, uncouth, uncaring..
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    Padfoot, for some reasons, you seem to think that you need to know everyone of 'something' in order to say you dislike/hate something, but it just isn't the case.
    For starters.. Its ALWAYS a pleasure reaing Padfoot's posts on this thread.. Its nice seeing a fellow american stand up for us in such a hateful thread. Secondly.. its nice seeing Vienna stick up for us as well.. in her own way.

    NOW.. as for YOUR post here.. seriously.. it is NOT just to hate everyone based on some minority of the population that you hear about! EVERY american is NOT to blame for what happened at that prison, are children to blame? Are, BABIES to blame? I'm sorry wolf, I usually enjoy reading your posts.. this is the most ignorant one I've ever seen from you.
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    (Original post by oldthrashbarg)
    Is this a question, or your opinion? Since the elected government of the US is to blame for these atrocities, the americans who do not support them ought to actively speak out against them.
    LMAO!!! Do you know ANYTHING about the american political system? We the people do NOT actively elect our presidents.. EVER HEAR OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE?!?
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    For starters.. Its ALWAYS a pleasure reaing Padfoot's posts on this thread.. Its nice seeing a fellow american stand up for us in such a hateful thread. Secondly.. its nice seeing Vienna stick up for us as well.. in her own way.

    NOW.. as for YOUR post here.. seriously.. it is NOT just to hate everyone based on some minority of the population that you hear about! EVERY american is NOT to blame for what happened at that prison, are children to blame? Are, BABIES to blame? I'm sorry wolf, I usually enjoy reading your posts.. this is the most ignorant one I've ever seen from you.
    Everyone on here who is berating Americans is doing so because their hate is rooted in jealousy and ignorance. There are for worse countries than America and i doubt any of the posters expressing anti-American sentiment originate from "perfect" nations.
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    Secondly.. its nice seeing Vienna stick up for us as well.. in her own way.
    hehe, hows that then?
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    LMAO!!! Do you know ANYTHING about the american political system? We the people do NOT actively elect our presidents.. EVER HEAR OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE?!?
    It seems that many of them haven't heard of the Electoral College.
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    (Original post by ColdFire)
    American **** licker!
    ok.. lets keep future childish comments to ourselves thank you!
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    hehe, hows that then?
    lol, *shrugs* you're actually telling people off for being against americans.. or being just plain wrong. And its nice being on the same side for once.. instead of arguing. :P
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    lol, *shrugs* you're actually telling people off for being against americans.. or being just plain wrong. And its nice being on the same side for once.. instead of arguing. :P
    I've alwasy wondered, just mildly curious, whether Vienna sticks up for americans because she likes us or because the majority of accusations thrown at us are BS or both.
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    For starters.. Its ALWAYS a pleasure reaing Padfoot's posts on this thread.. Its nice seeing a fellow american stand up for us in such a hateful thread. Secondly.. its nice seeing Vienna stick up for us as well.. in her own way.

    NOW.. as for YOUR post here.. seriously.. it is NOT just to hate everyone based on some minority of the population that you hear about! EVERY american is NOT to blame for what happened at that prison, are children to blame? Are, BABIES to blame? I'm sorry wolf, I usually enjoy reading your posts.. this is the most ignorant one I've ever seen from you.
    I was merely pointing out that when people say ' i hate americans' noone was really thinking i hate everyone of the americans, which you keep pointing out.
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    I think this is definitly one of those polls that definitly should've been made public! Although.. its pretty easy to tell who voted yes and who voted no. And its extremely dumb to vote yes.. generalization here people! Padfoot and I are in agreeance.. YOU DON'T KNOW EVER AMERICAN! YOU CAN'T HATE ALL OF US JUST BECAUSE OF A MINORITY!
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    I was merely pointing out that when people say ' i hate americans' noone was really thinking i hate everyone of the americans, which you keep pointing out.
    When you say Americans, it is generally refering to all americans. If you hate certain americans tell us who and why, but don't just say you hate us. It's mildly offensive.
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    (Original post by Mr Moncal)
    I've alwasy wondered, just mildly curious, whether Vienna sticks up for americans because she likes us or because the majority of accusations thrown at us are BS or both.
    lol.. hmm.. Maybe she feels bad for us..lets ask.. Vienna.. why do you stick up for us? .. not that I'm complaining.
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    (Original post by Mr Moncal)
    When you say Americans, it is generally refering to all americans. If you hate certain americans tell us who and why, but don't just say you hate us. It's mildly offensive.
    MILDLY?!? Its offensive period. Not all of us are "heartless, cowards, who beat up on 'innocents'" if thats what you even want to call them.
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    Ok, lets say it this way, if you read 5 books, and you don't like them, and you say you hate reading. Is this wrong to say you hate reading because you haven't read all the books in the world? Sorry if this is a bad example, but i am trying to put across a point that is hard to explain.
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    (Original post by drago di giada)
    lol.. hmm.. Maybe she feels bad for us..lets ask.. Vienna.. why do you stick up for us? .. not that I'm complaining.
    if someone said the French were all unhygenic socialists, I would stick up for them.
    if someone said the English were all ugly imperialists, I would stick up for us
    if someone says all americans are cruel, savage racists, I stick up for them.
    if someone says the Europeans havent acheived anything, I stick up for us.
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    Ok, lets say it this way, if you read 5 books, and you don't like them, and you say you hate reading. Is this wrong to say you hate reading because you haven't read all the books in the world? Sorry if this is a bad example, but i am trying to put across a point that is hard to explain.
    You can't say you hate to read just because you've read 5 books and you haven't found one you like.. Just like you can't say you hate ALL americans just because you've met a few that you don't like.
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    Ok, lets say it this way, if you read 5 books, and you don't like them, and you say you hate reading. Is this wrong to say you hate reading because you haven't read all the books in the world? Sorry if this is a bad example, but i am trying to put across a point that is hard to explain.
    It is a bad example. All books are different just as all people are different. Therefore you can't say that you hate reading after you have read 5 books, just as you can't say you hate Americans because you hate 5 americans.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    if someone said the French were all unhygenic socialists, I would stick up for them.
    if someone said the English were all ugly imperialists, I would stick up for us
    if someone says all americans are cruel, savage racists, I stick up for them.
    if someone says the Europeans havent acheived anything, I stick up for us.
    So you're saying that you stick up for anyone being prejudiced against?
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    Ok, lets say it this way, if you read 5 books, and you don't like them, and you say you hate reading. Is this wrong to say you hate reading because you haven't read all the books in the world? Sorry if this is a bad example, but i am trying to put across a point that is hard to explain.
    i get your point. but youre are defending another one that is not equatable.

    "Americans are really cruel and savage" does not suggest that there is a possibility that this may apply to a select few.
 
 
 
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