7 Nelson Mandela Quotes You Probably Won’t See In The Media Watch

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7. On the U.S. war with Iraq:

“If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.”

Via cbsnews.com


6. On Israel:

“Israel should withdraw from all the areas which it won from the Arabs in 1967, and in particular Israel should withdraw completely from the Golan Heights, from south Lebanon and from the West Bank.”
Via jweekly.com

5. On the U.S. war with Iraq:

“All that (Mr. Bush) wants is Iraqi oil.”

Via cbsnews.com


4. Mandela on Castro and the Cuban revolution:

“From its earliest days, the Cuban Revolution has also been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of the vicious imperialist-orquestrated campaign to destroy the impressive gain made in the Cuban Revolution….Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro.”
Via lanic.utexas.edu

3. Mandela on Muammar Gaddafi, his longtime supporter.

“It is our duty to give support to the brother leader…especially in regards to the sanctions which are not hitting just him, they are hitting the ordinary masses of the people … our African brothers and sisters.”

Via finalcall.com

2. On the U.S. preparing to invade Iraq in a 2002 interview with Newsweek.

“If you look at those matters, you will come to the conclusion that the attitude of the United States of America is a threat to world peace.”

Via newsweek.com

1. On a Palestinian state:

“The UN took a strong stand against apartheid; and over the years, an international consensus was built, which helped to bring an end to this iniquitous system. But we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.”

Via cbsnews.com
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Not surprised he was a delusional Marxist. Most 'intellectuals' were in the 20th century.
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Can't stand the hero worship he gets, he was by all accounts a terrorist.

He's a Marxist and his party are destroying the economy of South Africa. Another place we should have never left.
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But.. USA = Freedom???


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But.. USA = Freedom???

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Noooo.... Cuba=Freedom

You know.. that place that had a GDP per capita on par with Italy and the third highest real wages in the world... but nobly sacrificed and today is poorer than the global average.

Glory to Castro.. Glory to Mandella.
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Praise the benevolent Mrs. Kennedy

The worst part is that a vast majority of the modern day youth would provably applaud him for this - it's seems like this weird, pseudo-Marxist hatred of reason and individual liberty is the default setting in Britain atm
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Praise the benevolent Mrs. Kennedy

The worst part is that a vast majority of the modern day youth would provably applaud him for this - it's seems like this weird, pseudo-Marxist hatred of reason and individual liberty is the default setting in Britain atm
Has been for a century

Basically

Conservative - Practical wants to retain their privileges (Thief?)
Marxist (or Far Left Nutter) - Mentalist determined on civil war. (Terrorist)
Socialist - Less dogmatic Marxist who blames everything on the USA (Idealist)
Social Democrat - Wants more state intervention, usually sane
Liberal - Wants greater individual freedom
Right Liberal - Wants less state intervention in the economy
Far Right Nutter - Mentalist determined on civil war. (Terrorist)
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Noooo.... Cuba=Freedom

You know.. that place that had a GDP per capita on par with Italy and the third highest real wages in the world... but nobly sacrificed and today is poorer than the global average.

Glory to Castro.. Glory to Mandella.
Communism and political terrorism aye


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The praise for Gaddafi and Castro is a bit iffy but I don't really see anything wrong with the rest of it.
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Has been for a century

Basically

Conservative - Practical wants to retain their privileges (Thief?)
Marxist (or Far Left Nutter) - Mentalist determined on civil war. (Terrorist)
Socialist - Less dogmatic Marxist who blames everything on the USA (Idealist)
Social Democrat - Wants more state intervention, usually sane
Liberal - Wants greater individual freedom
Right Liberal - Wants less state intervention in the economy
Far Right Nutter - Mentalist determined on civil war. (Terrorist)
To say the Socialists in the UK are 'less dogmatic' than anyone at all is totally a mistake, at least as far as Britain goes they're the worst of the bunch. Probably it's because everyone here thinks they're a Socialist, but the belief that Capitalism is evil and raping/pillaging everyone all the time (even the well-off who weirdly consider themselves Socialist) doesn't ever seem to be challenged.
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Most of those quotes make perfect sense. What's your point?
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History is written by the victor


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The praise for Gaddafi and Castro is a bit iffy but I don't really see anything wrong with the rest of it.
Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. He had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandelas MK terrorists.
Read more at http://victoriajackson.com/10218/nel...orist-murderer
He was a terrorist and an enemy of the South African state. That he was welcomed to the UK is as much an injustice as Gerry Adams roaming the streets free today.
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Most of those quotes make perfect sense. What's your point?
You consider Cuba to be a role model?
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History is written by the victor
Not really an applicable sentiment in this case.
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Coo, they're coming out now...

7. Does anyone doubt that this is true? If you do, explain - amongst other things - the US bombing of Laos and Cambodia.

6. UN policy. There's a reason they're called the 'occupied territories'.

5. Does anyone doubt this is true? If it's not, it's because it misses out 'giving billions of dollars to his Vice President's company and his other friends'.

4. Because, of course, a right-wing dictatorship is sooo much better than a left-wing one. (/Sarcasm) There's plenty to criticise Castro for, but you'd have to be blinkered to deny that the main losers from the Cuban revolution were the Mafia etc, and a tiny number of rich Cubans.

Even President Kennedy said that getting rid of Batista was a good thing:

"I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country’s policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear."

The revolution was in 1959, the one party communist state in Cuba didn't happen until 1965. Hmm, could the fact that the US tried invading and the Soviets gave Cuba support have anything to do with that?

3. Let's have the quotes from Blair and the US on how lovely Gaddafi was, when he abandoned his WMD programme.

2. Does anyone doubt that is true? The invasion of Iraq was based on lies, and the US had actively supported Saddam in the past.

1. You have to be quite rabidly right wing to deny that one.
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You consider Cuba to be a role model?
I said 'most'. Mr Mandela was perfectly within his rights to criticise the Iraq Invasion and apartheid in the middle east.
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He was a terrorist and an enemy of the South African state. That he was welcomed to the UK is as much an injustice as Gerry Adams roaming the streets free today.
You're really sad you got to miss out wearing a 'Hang Nelson Mandela' t-shirt like student Tories in the 80s, aren't you?

Some states need enemies, in more ways than one.
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Not really an applicable sentiment in this case.
I just felt like saying it


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