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BIG dilema..superbig acutally..
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i was wondering...is there a conflict between the heart and the mind or do both of them work together? when i say heart i dont mean the beating of the heart or anything like that...but how you think with your heart..
does the thinking between you heart and mind contrast vastly and in what situations?
i thought about things like free-will, love, career choice and such things...when do you think with you heart and when by your head?...what is that fine distinct line that seperated the two thinkers (heart and mind)..
guys...jus take some time off and gimme a well thought out answer..i really want to know about this..and gimme some otha clear examples in which you would use you heart and not the mind and vice verca...
i was wondering...is there a conflict between the heart and the mind or do both of them work together? when i say heart i dont mean the beating of the heart or anything like that...but how you think with your heart..
does the thinking between you heart and mind contrast vastly and in what situations?
i thought about things like free-will, love, career choice and such things...when do you think with you heart and when by your head?...what is that fine distinct line that seperated the two thinkers (heart and mind)..
guys...jus take some time off and gimme a well thought out answer..i really want to know about this..and gimme some otha clear examples in which you would use you heart and not the mind and vice verca...
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How is this a dilema? It's basically all your brains work, obviously lol, but we say 'think with your heart' because we asociate the 'heart' thoughts as what we really want, whereas our brain thoughts are conditioned to religion, society...etc.
I best example of this is when your in a failing relationship. Your brain tells you to end it and walk away but your heart want to cling on and hopes for the best, so tells you to say.
I best example of this is when your in a failing relationship. Your brain tells you to end it and walk away but your heart want to cling on and hopes for the best, so tells you to say.
Reply 3
paraj
OP
hmm..well its the dilema because im confused about these things..i dont know what to go by..my heart of the mind....its like the devil and the angel..
neways ya...failing relationships are a very good example...u think of neother ones as well???
neways ya...failing relationships are a very good example...u think of neother ones as well???
Reply 5
So...what's the problem?
Everyone gets heart/mind conflicts, it comes from being human. Your own experiences of your own conflicts will teach you better than what anybody has to say.
Lex
Everyone gets heart/mind conflicts, it comes from being human. Your own experiences of your own conflicts will teach you better than what anybody has to say.
Lex
how is this a big dillema, wtf are u even talking about "follow your heart" is just a saying, unless you are a ****ing mutation all thinking will go on in your head. The saying about thinking with the mind is when its logical that doing something will benefit you - or the best step you can take, "thinking with heart" means you ignore that and do whatever u want/feel like doing -- bring you hapiness etc.
Reply 7
I'm a pretty much a follow-your-heart person, or so I like to believe. To me, that means that I take time out to find out what it is that I really want in life or in a particular situation, and then don't let anyone convince me otherwise. That works for me because I don't regret anything major - I know that that decision was right for me at the time. The line between the heart and the mind is indeed very thin, your mind is more protective of your feelings so if you think with your head you are less likely to get hurt and probably less likely to be truly happy. Like law
ortal said, your brain thoughts take lots of stuff into account - religion, social norms, family traditions, the law, safety etc. Your heart only considers what will truly make you happy (if you are lucky - you do need some time of just to think about it on a regular basis, finding out what you want can be tricky).
Some might say that following your heart is corageus but stupid (or just stupid!) Well I don't agree with that, not if you really know what you want. As I said, knowing what you want is tricky, especially since there are so many things that contribute to one's happiness.
1st example: I am expected to go into Finance because I love economics, am alright at it, and have decided to study it at uni. So everyone talks about my "fourth million" etc. Deep inside, I always knew I wanted to be a teacher. Now I have decided to do a PGCE straight after my economics degree and go into teaching right away. This was a "heart" decision because this is what would truly make me happy, but also because my heart convinced my head that I don't need "the fourth million" for happiness. If my ambition was to progress financially and my greatest wish was to see the world and I loved teaching I wouldn't go into teaching, because I can't satisfy all of those. But since I know that my future earnings will be irrelevant to my happiness level I can forgo them to obtain that factor that will make me happier. I guess what I'm trying to say is that happiness is based on many factors and you need to consider all of them, this is where your mind helps.
2nd example: In the future I may find myself in love with a darker skinned person. My brain, which looks after the social side, will want me to stop because creating a family with say black person is considered unacceptable in Russia, and therefore in my family. Since I'll be in love, my heart might tell me to stay with them and create a family with them. But also, I know that the sense of being Russian and bringing up my children Russian will be very important for my happiness, and if my kids can't go to Russia without undergoing some distress I won't be truly happy. So that leaves me with the sensible "brain" option, not to create a family with them, and not because my brain told me so - because my heart knows that the chance that I'll be truly in harmony is small and it might not be worth it to go against the society for that small chance. (So I do hope that I'll never end up in this horrible situation where I'd have to chose between Russianness and true love). Please note that it does take some courage for me to write this up so I wouldn't like to see any neg rep for "racism". I do very much accept that I may well find myself in love with someone darker than me.
3rd example: I should live in England for the rest of my life because I'll have citizenship in the UK in 3 years (before I finish my degree). It makes sense to stay in a coutry of opportunities, with freedom to travel, with possibility of financial well being, with relative safety and with mild climate. I know that, I'm not stupid. Yet I feel that I can only be truly happy in Russia because I put a very high value on patriotism, the sense of belonging etc. I am happy in England but there's always a piece missing, the piece that I find in Russia everytime I go there.Being in Russia would make it much much easier to have a Russian family, which also has a high value for me. Being miles apart from my mum and my brother (who'll stay in the UK) is the minus side in my heart. Not being able to travel or afford some luxuries (like a car) has a close to zero value in my heart so losing this won't make much difference. It's a clear-cut situation for me - happy vs. not so happy, so I intend to go to Russia after university. Of course I do have some lea way: by the time I graduate I might place different value on things than now, I'll have to re-evaluate myself then.
Sorry to bore you
ortal said, your brain thoughts take lots of stuff into account - religion, social norms, family traditions, the law, safety etc. Your heart only considers what will truly make you happy (if you are lucky - you do need some time of just to think about it on a regular basis, finding out what you want can be tricky). Some might say that following your heart is corageus but stupid (or just stupid!) Well I don't agree with that, not if you really know what you want. As I said, knowing what you want is tricky, especially since there are so many things that contribute to one's happiness.
1st example: I am expected to go into Finance because I love economics, am alright at it, and have decided to study it at uni. So everyone talks about my "fourth million" etc. Deep inside, I always knew I wanted to be a teacher. Now I have decided to do a PGCE straight after my economics degree and go into teaching right away. This was a "heart" decision because this is what would truly make me happy, but also because my heart convinced my head that I don't need "the fourth million" for happiness. If my ambition was to progress financially and my greatest wish was to see the world and I loved teaching I wouldn't go into teaching, because I can't satisfy all of those. But since I know that my future earnings will be irrelevant to my happiness level I can forgo them to obtain that factor that will make me happier. I guess what I'm trying to say is that happiness is based on many factors and you need to consider all of them, this is where your mind helps.
2nd example: In the future I may find myself in love with a darker skinned person. My brain, which looks after the social side, will want me to stop because creating a family with say black person is considered unacceptable in Russia, and therefore in my family. Since I'll be in love, my heart might tell me to stay with them and create a family with them. But also, I know that the sense of being Russian and bringing up my children Russian will be very important for my happiness, and if my kids can't go to Russia without undergoing some distress I won't be truly happy. So that leaves me with the sensible "brain" option, not to create a family with them, and not because my brain told me so - because my heart knows that the chance that I'll be truly in harmony is small and it might not be worth it to go against the society for that small chance. (So I do hope that I'll never end up in this horrible situation where I'd have to chose between Russianness and true love). Please note that it does take some courage for me to write this up so I wouldn't like to see any neg rep for "racism". I do very much accept that I may well find myself in love with someone darker than me.
3rd example: I should live in England for the rest of my life because I'll have citizenship in the UK in 3 years (before I finish my degree). It makes sense to stay in a coutry of opportunities, with freedom to travel, with possibility of financial well being, with relative safety and with mild climate. I know that, I'm not stupid. Yet I feel that I can only be truly happy in Russia because I put a very high value on patriotism, the sense of belonging etc. I am happy in England but there's always a piece missing, the piece that I find in Russia everytime I go there.Being in Russia would make it much much easier to have a Russian family, which also has a high value for me. Being miles apart from my mum and my brother (who'll stay in the UK) is the minus side in my heart. Not being able to travel or afford some luxuries (like a car) has a close to zero value in my heart so losing this won't make much difference. It's a clear-cut situation for me - happy vs. not so happy, so I intend to go to Russia after university. Of course I do have some lea way: by the time I graduate I might place different value on things than now, I'll have to re-evaluate myself then.
Sorry to bore you
Reply 9
What? I do think you contribution is very valuable but give me some credit, too?
Reply 10
paraj
OP
yup...very helpful indeed...buying a ps2 or xbox...haha..
neways..back to the topic..what do u use more..the heart or the mind? or do u weigh ur situation?
neways..back to the topic..what do u use more..the heart or the mind? or do u weigh ur situation?
Reply 11
Uni chocies is gonna be very heart/brain for me. If I get an offer from a london uni, I wouldnt mind it but I live quite close to london so I want to get away a bit I think. But then my gf lives near london so thatd be a heart thingy. Confusiiing
Reply 12
tanusha-tomsk
3rd example: I should live in England for the rest of my life because I'll have citizenship in the UK in 3 years (before I finish my degree). It makes sense to stay in a coutry of opportunities, with freedom to travel, with possibility of financial well being, with relative safety and with mild climate. I know that, I'm not stupid. Yet I feel that I can only be truly happy in Russia because I put a very high value on patriotism, the sense of belonging etc. I am happy in England but there's always a piece missing, the piece that I find in Russia everytime I go there.Being in Russia would make it much much easier to have a Russian family, which also has a high value for me. Being miles apart from my mum and my brother (who'll stay in the UK) is the minus side in my heart. Not being able to travel or afford some luxuries (like a car) has a close to zero value in my heart so losing this won't make much difference. It's a clear-cut situation for me - happy vs. not so happy, so I intend to go to Russia after university. Of course I do have some lea way: by the time I graduate I might place different value on things than now, I'll have to re-evaluate myself then.
3rd example: I should live in England for the rest of my life because I'll have citizenship in the UK in 3 years (before I finish my degree). It makes sense to stay in a coutry of opportunities, with freedom to travel, with possibility of financial well being, with relative safety and with mild climate. I know that, I'm not stupid. Yet I feel that I can only be truly happy in Russia because I put a very high value on patriotism, the sense of belonging etc. I am happy in England but there's always a piece missing, the piece that I find in Russia everytime I go there.Being in Russia would make it much much easier to have a Russian family, which also has a high value for me. Being miles apart from my mum and my brother (who'll stay in the UK) is the minus side in my heart. Not being able to travel or afford some luxuries (like a car) has a close to zero value in my heart so losing this won't make much difference. It's a clear-cut situation for me - happy vs. not so happy, so I intend to go to Russia after university. Of course I do have some lea way: by the time I graduate I might place different value on things than now, I'll have to re-evaluate myself then.
Wow good on you, I am russian too, moved here a long time ago. And would never want to go and live in russia, its brilliant when I go- I see cousins and aunts and uncles and go out with them etc... but really? I feel like it would be a step back for me... and not forward as it seems for you. and I understand your second point perfectly... its like that among my family and their russian freinds (you should have seen the fuss when someone's daughter started to go out with an african guy- wow
i wasnt prepared for it)I don't know, it seems to me that after all the trouble we went through to stay and live here, it would be horrible to step back to Russia but I see different values and for you it seems right. (I dont put much importance on having a Russian family... obvisouly Ide want my kids to know about their background etc but yea)
That was kind of a pointless post
sorry, but ive written it now!I use the mind mostly, and tend to stifle the heart sometimes! But having said that, I dont really have much conflict between the 2 usually... Think through everything... and think long term too
Reply 14
Junkie
Wow good on you, I am russian too, moved here a long time ago. And would never want to go and live in russia, its brilliant when I go- I see cousins and aunts and uncles and go out with them etc... but really? I feel like it would be a step back for me... and not forward as it seems for you. and I understand your second point perfectly... its like that among my family and their russian freinds (you should have seen the fuss when someone's daughter started to go out with an african guy- wow i wasnt prepared for it)
I don't know, it seems to me that after all the trouble we went through to stay and live here, it would be horrible to step back to Russia but I see different values and for you it seems right. (I dont put much importance on having a Russian family... obvisouly Ide want my kids to know about their background etc but yea)
i wasnt prepared for it)I don't know, it seems to me that after all the trouble we went through to stay and live here, it would be horrible to step back to Russia but I see different values and for you it seems right. (I dont put much importance on having a Russian family... obvisouly Ide want my kids to know about their background etc but yea)
Yeah you are right, I don't see it as a step back at all!
How old are you and when did you move to England?Reply 16
Then why do I feel physical tension in my heart when I'm unhappy and funny tickly feeling when I am happy? If it's just a muscle how come it physically reacts to my mood? 
Reply 18
tanusha-tomsk
Yeah you are right, I don't see it as a step back at all! How old are you and when did you move to England?
How old are you and when did you move to England?18 now, and moved here when I was 5/6
you?
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