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I think economics should be a subject taught to all pupils from year 7 owards, with the option of dropping for GCSE at the minimum. Ideally it would be a compulsory GCSE subject.

It annoys me how Geography is an established subject taught to everyone instead of economics. Human geography is essentially watered down macro-economics, and Physical geography is utterly useless. Why are we learning about clouds, rocks and rivers?

If everyone took it for GCSE then people would see the importance of a strong economy in a modern society. All these left-wing people who don't care about the economy clearly don't understand it.

A more economical minded population would stop this left-wing culture of something for nothing. Then people would vote for a government which doesn't ruin the economy, so in the long run there would be an improvement in standard of living.

Obviously I don't think Economics is more important than maths or english, but its much more relevant in our day to day lifes than geography- a subject where you don't even develop a set of skills in.
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(Original post by WKUK)
I think economics should be a subject taught to all pupils from year 7 owards, with the option of dropping for GCSE at the minimum. Ideally it would be a compulsory GCSE subject.

It annoys me how Geography is an established subject taught to everyone instead of economics. Human geography is essentially watered down macro-economics, and Physical geography is utterly useless. Why are we learning about clouds, rocks and rivers?

If everyone took it for GCSE then people would see the importance of a strong economy in a modern society. All these left-wing people who don't care about the economy clearly don't understand it.

A more economical minded population would stop this left-wing culture of something for nothing. Then people would vote for a government which doesn't ruin the economy, so in the long run there would be an improvement in standard of living.

Obviously I don't think Economics is more important than maths or english, but its much more relevant in our day to day lifes than geography- a subject where you don't even develop a set of skills in.
I think there should be a joint subject-kind of an economics/politics mashup, because then we might have an informed set of students leaving high school, but I don't really think geography should be dropped in order to make room for economics on the curriculum. Geography does teach skills, and maybe if more people chose geography for GCSE we wouldn't have people denying climate change.

Also I'm left-wing and I know/care about economics. I also happen to be relying on benefits because of chronic illness (not to mention I was raised in a single parent household, so I know a *lot* about the need for a good welfare system). So I'm not sure your plan to educate people in economics will help your politics.
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I think economics should be a subject taught to all pupils from year 7 owards, with the option of dropping for GCSE at the minimum. Ideally it would be a compulsory GCSE subject.

It annoys me how Geography is an established subject taught to everyone instead of economics. Human geography is essentially watered down macro-economics, and Physical geography is utterly useless. Why are we learning about clouds, rocks and rivers?

If everyone took it for GCSE then people would see the importance of a strong economy in a modern society. All these left-wing people who don't care about the economy clearly don't understand it.

A more economical minded population would stop this left-wing culture of something for nothing. Then people would vote for a government which doesn't ruin the economy, so in the long run there would be an improvement in standard of living.

Obviously I don't think Economics is more important than maths or english, but its much more relevant in our day to day lifes than geography- a subject where you don't even develop a set of skills in.
Maybe it should be taught as a subset of geography, as they both come under the umbrella subject of geography. I believe some economics is covered in GCSE geography? (GDP at least and other things)
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I think there should be a joint subject-kind of an economics/politics mashup, because then we might have an informed set of students leaving high school, but I don't really think geography should be dropped in order to make room for economics on the curriculum. Geography does teach skills, and maybe if more people chose geography for GCSE we wouldn't have people denying climate change.

Also I'm left-wing and I know/care about economics. I also happen to be relying on benefits because of chronic illness (not to mention I was raised in a single parent household, so I know a *lot* about the need for a good welfare system). So I'm not sure your plan to educate people in economics will help your politics.
I would like politics to be taught more, but unlike economics it can be taught with a bias.
I also want a good welfare system, but it can't be done on borrowed money because the debt interest will just keep rising, making it an unsustainable approach.
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Maybe it should be taught as a subset of geography, as they both come under the umbrella subject of geography. I believe some economics is covered in GCSE geography? (GDP at least and other things)
I want the government economic policy to be taught to the left wing students, so they can understand the importance of austerity while giving tax cuts. (Fiscal policy)
This is not covered in GCSE or Alevel geography and i dont think it could be as its a domestic policy.
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I agree that economics is hugely important - it's such a relevant subject (more so that maths in my opinion). However I don't think it should be compulsory - rather, be more encouraged as a GCSE and A level. For example, languages and religious studies are subjects which I was heavily encouraged by my school to take, hence why I (and many others) did. I also disagree about your viewpoint on geography. Geography is becoming an increasingly relevant subject, with global issues such as climate change, deforestation, global poverty, etc. which younger generations need to be educated about.
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I agree that economics is hugely important - it's such a relevant subject (more so that maths in my opinion). However I don't think it should be compulsory - rather, be more encouraged as a GCSE and A level. For example, languages and religious studies are subjects which I was heavily encouraged by my school to take, hence why I (and many others) did. I also disagree about your viewpoint on geography. Geography is becoming an increasingly relevant subject, with global issues such as climate change, deforestation, global poverty, etc. which younger generations need to be educated about.
Climate change is important but I think it should be incorporated into an econmics course, EG a cost benefit analysis of green technology.

My main problem with geography is the physical side which is a waste of time. Some of the human side is relevant but it should be taught under economics, with a more logical perspective rather than by socialist geography teachers.
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I think economics should be a subject taught to all pupils from year 7 owards, with the option of dropping for GCSE at the minimum. Ideally it would be a compulsory GCSE subject.

It annoys me how Geography is an established subject taught to everyone instead of economics. Human geography is essentially watered down macro-economics, and Physical geography is utterly useless. Why are we learning about clouds, rocks and rivers?

If everyone took it for GCSE then people would see the importance of a strong economy in a modern society. All these left-wing people who don't care about the economy clearly don't understand it.

A more economical minded population would stop this left-wing culture of something for nothing. Then people would vote for a government which doesn't ruin the economy, so in the long run there would be an improvement in standard of living.

Obviously I don't think Economics is more important than maths or english, but its much more relevant in our day to day lifes than geography- a subject where you don't even develop a set of skills in.
While better teaching of economics is a good idea in principle, I get the impression that you just want it because you think it'll stop people having opinions you disagree with ("the left"), which I would consider to be not far from brainwashing.

There are plenty of left wing economists out there, in case you haven't noticed.

You also cannot teach everything from an economics perspective. You said in another post you wanted to do this for stuff like climate change, but you cannot look at environmental issues solely through the economics side. If we did that, we would have no environmental laws whatsoever. That's why geography is important - it teaches about the economic and environmental side of issues.
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I think economics should be a subject taught to all pupils from year 7 owards, with the option of dropping for GCSE at the minimum. Ideally it would be a compulsory GCSE subject.

It annoys me how Geography is an established subject taught to everyone instead of economics. Human geography is essentially watered down macro-economics, and Physical geography is utterly useless. Why are we learning about clouds, rocks and rivers?

If everyone took it for GCSE then people would see the importance of a strong economy in a modern society. All these left-wing people who don't care about the economy clearly don't understand it.

A more economical minded population would stop this left-wing culture of something for nothing. Then people would vote for a government which doesn't ruin the economy, so in the long run there would be an improvement in standard of living.

Obviously I don't think Economics is more important than maths or english, but its much more relevant in our day to day lifes than geography- a subject where you don't even develop a set of skills in.
THIS is the reason why. There would be an issue of indoctrination of pupils by teachers e.g. if you were a teacher i think you would encourage right-wing-minded students to speak out and reward them and their work more than left-wing-minded pupils. This is why RE can also be a problem. Teachers attempting to forcibly change the minds of their pupils.
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While better teaching of economics is a good idea in principle, I get the impression that you just want it because you think it'll stop people having opinions you disagree with ("the left"), which I would consider to be not far from brainwashing.

There are plenty of left wing economists out there, in case n't noticed.

You also cannot teach everything from an economics perspective. You said in another post you wanted to do this for stuff like climate change, but you cannot look at environmental issues solely through the economics side. If we did that, we would have no environmental laws whatsoever. That's why geography is important - it teaches about the economic and environmental side of issues.
It would not be brainwashing, It would be giving people the correct information behind Tory policies so they can use logic for themselves to realize that they are not evil.

In Economics you have to evaluate every point, so its not like people will learn that any way to make money is good, as you have to balance out the pros and cons to make a judgement for yourself. I do care about global warming but some EU regualtions are too drastic and people need to be aware of how they might effect their lives negatively.
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[QUOTE=WKUK;51549821]I think economics should be a subject taught to all pupils from year 7 owards, with the option of dropping for GCSE at the minimum. Ideally it would be a compulsory GCSE subject.

It annoys me how Geography is an established subject taught to everyone instead of economics. Human geography is essentially watered down macro-economics, and Physical geography is utterly useless. Why are we learning about clouds, rocks and rivers?

This is a fair point.

If everyone took it for GCSE then people would see the importance of a strong economy in a modern society. All these left-wing people who don't care about the economy clearly don't understand it.

I'm not sure if you've had a privileged upbringing, or have attended a high performing state school but the average Joe doesn't give hoot about Keynesian-Classical theory.
It's strenuous enough for most of these people to become engaged in fundamental subjects such as Maths + English. The study of Economics as national school average would suggest is a luxury and unnecessary given the current.


A more economical minded population would stop this left-wing culture of something for nothing. Then people would vote for a government which doesn't ruin the economy, so in the long run there would be an improvement in standard of living.

I was interested in your opinion until I read this bigoted piece. The essence of Economics is choosing how to distribute scarce resources. Interventionist policies as such improve markets, make them more efficient and less prone to market failure. An example of this being the provision of the NHS which increases the quality of labour output over a an increased and sustained period of time. All examples of these benefits are part of a 'left wing culture'.

Obviously I don't think Economics is more important than maths or english, but its much more relevant in our day to day lifes than geography- a subject where you don't even develop a set of skills in.

I agree that Economics should be taught - it's ignorant of the government to downplay it's worth compared to subjects like Geography which are included on the national syllabus. Realistically I'm not sure whether this would work out.
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Labour would never win a General Election ever again if it was....... Lib Dems, Greens and SNP wouldn't do too well either......
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I studied it and I'm still left wing

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I studied it and I'm still left wing

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Start your own business- then you wont be.
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I studied it and I'm still left wing

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Economics isn't a right wing issue though. It crosses over the whole political spectrum and politician ideology.
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Economics isn't a right wing issue though. It crosses over the whole political spectrum and politician ideology.
Did you read the OP?
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