A devastated father takes to Facebook with a blunt message after his son dies of OD

The drug that killed him is legal anyway and available over the counter.

And this is why we should never legalise drugs.

The drug that killed him is legal anyway and available over the counter.

Which makes my analogy all the stronger. Just as gun-nuts in America have called for more guns in response to school shootings with legally bought weapons, people in this thread are somehow using an OD on a legal drug to call for wider legalisation of drugs. It's completely nonsensical.

Enough of this 'drugs'. There's no such thing as 'drugs', they're all different chemicals with different effects, risks and benefits. Apparently DXM killed him, so he smears LSD and everything else with the same brush. This is ****brained.

This case hit home hard with me this morning, because I had been planning on doing 3 hits of acid later on that day (tonight/now/thisday)

Thankfully it all went by okay.

Don't tell me you didn't trip because of this bull****?

I did.

You must have got started really early

I have to agree.

Give me one solid, meaningful reason why we would benefit by making illegal drugs legal.

Which makes my analogy all the stronger. Just as gun-nuts in America have called for more guns in response to school shootings with legally bought weapons, people in this thread are somehow using an OD on a legal drug to call for wider legalisation of drugs. It's completely nonsensical.

The point is that the distinction between illegal and legal drugs is based on virtually nothing. This guy overdosed on over-the-counter cough syrup and yet it's the LSD that's illegal. Why?

That might be your point but it wasn't mine. My point is that it is completely nonsensical for people to somehow use a fatal overdose by recreational use of a legal drug to argue for more drugs to be legally available for recreational use. People here are just desperate to argue for more drugs to be legal that they can't see this story in absolutely no way supports that.

I'm no expert on the effects of LSD, but at a guess I would say LSD is illegal because it is has no use other than as a recreational drug, whilst this drug he died from is not entirely illegal because it has use in medicines, so to outlaw its use would be to outlaw various medicines.

lol beyond the health issues that may or may not come with taking certain drugs, one thing which is clear, is that taking certain drugs makes you pretty much a waste man. Chillin' on the corners, smokin' your joint, getting high off an LSD trip in some club. Pretty much: loser. I'll only talk about mj, but I don't know anyone who does so who is actually clever, like top student. The only one I knew became a dumb student, or at least solid average. Doing this different **** makes you care less about many important things in life and just right out turns you into a bum. You don't care about education, you don't give a crap about involving in the wider world at all. All you want is your next trip. Top losers.

Nobody who did illegal drugs on a really regular basis, ever contributed anything meaningful to this world. Let's try keep off that bum life.

Your comment epitomises everything wrong with the decriminalisation ideology: ignorant, judgmental and dogmatic.

Firstly, you have no idea of the "drugs" you talk about. LSD is very rare on the club scene and raves aren't really the ideal place to take it. The drug you were thinking of was Ecstasy - completely different effects, both physically and psychologically .

So now we've established that you have no idea WHAT you're talking about - do you have any idea WHO you're talking about? Of course not. You say that you only know one person who smokes weed, and fro m that one anecdote, you are making an assertion that drugs invariably make you a "wasteman" (great vocabulary) and "care less about many important things"! Do you have any concept of scientific method or logical deduction? Although it is true that people who smoke weed are more lazy (I can make that statement, because I know more than one person who does) that is not necessarily CAUSED by the drugs. Have you heard of the difference between correlation and causation?

Then you make the assumption that all drug USERS are drug ABUSERS - which is simply ridiculous and judgmental. I bet your parents like a glass of red wine with a meal, is "all [that they] want" their next bottle? No. There is no difference between people who consume alcohol infrequently and moderately and LSD (all all 'drug' users) who do the same.

As for your final statement "Nobody who did illegal drugs on a really regular basis, ever contributed anything meaningful to this world"... Have you heard of Aldous Huxley? Judging from the ignorance apparent in your post you clearly haven't.

So armed with: one anecdote; no first hand, or second hand, knowledge of drugs; a "traditional" illiberal upbringing; and a prejudice. You have managed to make an idiot out of yourself.

Well done

Your comment epitomises everything wrong with the decriminalisation ideology: ignorant, judgmental and dogmatic.

Firstly, you have no idea of the "drugs" you talk about. LSD is very rare on the club scene and raves aren't really the ideal place to take it. The drug you were thinking of was Ecstasy - completely different effects, both physically and psychologically .

So now we've established that you have no idea WHAT you're talking about - do you have any idea WHO you're talking about? Of course not. You say that you only know one person who smokes weed, and fro m that one anecdote, you are making an assertion that drugs invariably make you a "wasteman" (great vocabulary) and "care less about many important things"! Do you have any concept of scientific method or logical deduction? Although it is true that people who smoke weed are more lazy (I can make that statement, because I know more than one person who does) that is not necessarily CAUSED by the drugs. Have you heard of the difference between correlation and causation?

Then you make the assumption that all drug USERS are drug ABUSERS - which is simply ridiculous and judgmental. I bet your parents like a glass of red wine with a meal, is "all [that they] want" their next bottle? No. There is no difference between people who consume alcohol infrequently and moderately and LSD (all all 'drug' users) who do the same.

As for your final statement "Nobody who did illegal drugs on a really regular basis, ever contributed anything meaningful to this world"... Have you heard of Aldous Huxley? Judging from the ignorance apparent in your post you clearly haven't.

So armed with: one anecdote; no first hand, or second hand, knowledge of drugs; a "traditional" illiberal upbringing; and a prejudice. You have managed to make an idiot out of yourself.

Well done

lol beyond the health issues that may or may not come with taking certain drugs, one thing which is clear, is that taking certain drugs makes you pretty much a waste man. Chillin' on the corners, smokin' your joint, getting high off an LSD trip in some club. Pretty much: loser. I'll only talk about mj, but I don't know anyone who does so who is actually clever, like top student. The only one I knew became a dumb student, or at least solid average. Doing this different **** makes you care less about many important things in life and just right out turns you into a bum. You don't care about education, you don't give a crap about involving in the wider world at all. All you want is your next trip. Top losers.

Nobody who did illegal drugs on a really regular basis, ever contributed anything meaningful to this world. Let's try keep off that bum life.