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D1 - Chinese Postman

I have a couple of questions about 'Chinese Postman' questions:

- What's the general formula for working out how many ways the odd vertices can be paired together, eg: 4 odd vertices can be paired in 6 ways

- When the question asks for 'an optimal Chinese postman route' what do you have to do? do you still try and find the shortest route, despite there being 6 odd vertices, thus meaning it will take a long time to work out

thanks
doesn't anyone go on the maths forum anymore? it used to be the one place i was guaranteed help
Reply 2
It's because you're asking a D1 question; not that many people seem to do D modules and even fewer actually find it interesting enough to go into D1 threads :p:.
well do you happen to know the answer cos im stuck.

kinda off topic but i can now see why so few people do decision maths - i absolutely hate it!! im so not a logical person
Reply 4
I have absolutely no idea. My F Maths group did half of D1 then gave up and did M3 because decision maths is so tedious :p:
Reply 5
sucks to be you i guess.
it's tedious and not even that easy. the whole following the rules thing is easy, but some of the random questions are hard (im not in a very eloquent mood right now lol)
Reply 7
2 odd vertices can only be paired once.
4 odd vertices can only be paired six ways.
6 odd vertices can only be paired fifteen ways.

See the pattern? It's every other triangle number.

As a formula, I think it's n odd vertices can be paired (n-1)+(n-2)+...+2+1 ways, or n(n-1)/2 ways. n is of course necessarily even.
Reply 8
You're doing D1; rest assured that in the exam you won't have a Chinese Postman problem with any more than six odd vertices to pair. Indeed, if you are given six, the question usually is given more marks and allowed more time. So just use the normal method.
Just a small reminder that Chinese Postman is a another fancy name for the not so fancy ROUTE INSPECTION
Reply 10
You have the equation slightly incorrect, just try it (I initially made the same mistake).

Several students ask for it and I haven't found it anywhere, so had to derive it, unsimplified its the product of the odd values less than n (if there are n odd nodes):

(n-1)(n-3)(n-5)x...x3 x1

As an expression this is:

n! / [2^(n/2) *(n/2)!]

For 12 this would be:
12!/[2^6*6!]
479001600 / [64*720]
479001600 / 46080
10395

As required
Original post by djmcguigan
You have the equation slightly incorrect, just try it (I initially made the same mistake).

Several students ask for it and I haven't found it anywhere, so had to derive it, unsimplified its the product of the odd values less than n (if there are n odd nodes):

(n-1)(n-3)(n-5)x...x3 x1

As an expression this is:

n! / [2^(n/2) *(n/2)!]

For 12 this would be:
12!/[2^6*6!]
479001600 / [64*720]
479001600 / 46080
10395

As required


Since, you're new, it's understandable you bumping a 6 year old thread :tongue:

Btw, welcome to TSR :woo:
Reply 12
Original post by boromir9111
Since, you're new, it's understandable you bumping a 6 year old thread :tongue:

Btw, welcome to TSR :woo:


Threads this old are spooky.
Original post by thats_my_poison
I have a couple of questions about 'Chinese Postman' questions:

'- What's the general formula for working out how many ways the odd vertices can be paired together, eg: 4 odd vertices can be paired in 6 ways'.

The solution for this problem is: 1 x 3 x 5 x .... (next odd number until n-1);
e.g. 4 odd vertices = 1 x 3 = 3 pairs
6 odd vertices = 1 x 3 x 5 = 15 pairs

- When the question asks for 'an optimal Chinese postman route' what do you have to do? do you still try and find the shortest route, despite there being 6 odd vertices, thus meaning it will take a long time to work out

The optimal Chinese Postman Route = Total + Repeat Route.