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Could someone please tell me just how prestigious Wadham is? I have had many people telling me how academic it is etc. and I know it is an old college and, having been to see it, that it is beautiful. I am set to go there in 2004 and would just like to know if it is considered very prestigious or whether all that is lost in its reputation for being a left wing college.

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Could someone please tell me just how prestigious Wadham is? I have had many people telling me how academic it is etc. and I know it is an old college and, having been to see it, that it is beautiful. I am set to go there in 2004 and would just like to know if it is considered very prestigious or whether all that is lost in its reputation for being a left wing college.

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Definately has rep for being political - decent reputation for being 'prestigious' but then again a lot of colleges do. I'd say it was probably around 1/3 of the way down a 'league table of prestigiousness' I'd draw but other people may well have different opinions. Decent football team as well (despite being relegated).
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In the real world of work (which sadly you will have to enter one day) no-one knows or cares which college you went to or how 'prestigious' it was (whatever that means? Full of snobs? Is that what you want? Don't think any college really fits the bill anymore.). The only people who ask which college you went to are those who also went to oxbridge, so that they can reminise with you.

I think people who choose a college because it is in their eyes 'pretigious', (so that they can feel superiour and look down on people from other colleges?) are really pathetic. Sorry but I do.
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i know of some real mingers who go to wadham!!
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In the real world of work (which sadly you will have to enter one day) no-one knows or cares which college you went to or how 'prestigious' it was (whatever that means? Full of snobs? Is that what you want? Don't think any college really fits the bill anymore.). The only people who ask which college you went to are those who also went to oxbridge, so that they can reminise with you.

I think people who choose a college because it is in their eyes 'pretigious', (so that they can feel superiour and look down on people from other colleges?) are really pathetic. Sorry but I do.
In my eyes, the term prestigious means something along the lines of how many ordinary people outside of Oxford have heard of it for whatever reason. For example, I would term Christ Church or Magdalen more prestigious than, for example, Wolfson. I think my experiences in the real world of working full-time for a living bear this out ("Oh, you went to Oxford, which college? -You went where? I've never heard of that"). Does that mean I'd be more inclined to pick a 'prestigious' college? - no, I picked my current college based on a lot of other factors.
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(Original post by babyballerina)
In the real world of work (which sadly you will have to enter one day) no-one knows or cares which college you went to or how 'prestigious' it was (whatever that means? Full of snobs? Is that what you want? Don't think any college really fits the bill anymore.). The only people who ask which college you went to are those who also went to oxbridge, so that they can reminise with you.

I think people who choose a college because it is in their eyes 'pretigious', (so that they can feel superiour and look down on people from other colleges?) are really pathetic. Sorry but I do.

I think actually there are still some in the eomployment field who will take note of your college - as such those who care about the prestige may do so due to this fact
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Maybe, but unless a potential employer asks which college you went to, there's no reason for them to ever find out. Your college doesn't need to go on your CV; afterall, your degree is awarded by Oxford university, not the individual colleges. And at the end of the day, it is an Oxford degree, which means that regardless of your college, it will be distinct from degrees from other unis.
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Maybe, but unless a potential employer asks which college you went to, there's no reason for them to ever find out. Your college doesn't need to go on your CV; afterall, your degree is awarded by Oxford university, not the individual colleges
An important factor to consider is that colleges my open doors to you through contacts. These can be immensely important in "getting your foot in". A large, wealthy college is likely to be more effective at doing this.

(Not that I think it matters - I applied to the 2nd smallest college at Oxford. My view's just apply to where you'll excel, and you won't have to worry about contacts).
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An important factor to consider is that colleges my open doors to you through contacts. These can be immensely important in "getting your foot in". A large, wealthy college is likely to be more effective at doing this.

(Not that I think it matters - I applied to the 2nd smallest college at Oxford. My view's just apply to where you'll excel, and you won't have to worry about contacts).
It depends on what you want to do, though. If you want to go into Law, the Civil Service, investment banking, then maybe college contacts will be important. However, you can still make contacts by making friends with people from other colleges,and through them perhaps their parents or business associates, and for example if you want to go into academia, you can surely make contacts through being tutored by tutors who don't necessarily belong to your college.
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For something to be "prestigous" it must be perceived to be better in some way by people other than those who make the claim. As far as I am aware the only people who talk about college prestige are those at Oxford colleges.

I definetely agree with babyballerina. "Prestige" seems to come down to: does it have old buildings? Have loads of famous people studied there? If the latter is the case with Wadham I have no idea, but I am sure there's websites that will tell you.

By the way I would not even consider working for any employer who thought the Oxford college I studied at was a factor in employing me. (I doubt there are many).
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It depends on what you want to do, though. If you want to go into Law, the Civil Service, investment banking, then maybe college contacts will be important. However, you can still make contacts by making friends with people from other colleges,and through them perhaps their parents or business associates, and for example if you want to go into academia, you can surely make contacts through being tutored by tutors who don't necessarily belong to your college.
Sure, like I say I applied to a tiny college. However there's no denying there are slightly more contact making opportunities at bigger colleges - there simply are more people.
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Sure, like I say I applied to a tiny college. However there's no denying there are slightly more contact making opportunities at bigger colleges - there simply are more people.
Hehe. Now you certainly went to a public school with such knowledge
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Hehe. Now you certainly went to a public school with such knowledge
Knowledge such as more people means there are more chances for you to make contacts??? :confused:
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Sure, like I say I applied to a tiny college. However there's no denying there are slightly more contact making opportunities at bigger colleges - there simply are more people.
Agreed, but your original post cited wealth as also affecting the contacts potential of a college. A college can be large but not rich (read 'prestigious) ie Newnham and Girton at Cambridge. I'm just gnawing the bone here though, ignore me!
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Agreed, but your original post cited wealth as also affecting the contacts potential of a college. A college can be large but not rich (read 'prestigious) ie Newnham and Girton at Cambridge. I'm just gnawing the bone here though, ignore me!
Fair enough...
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I heard it has been previously known as the "gay" college - like Pembroke and Newnham at Cambridge. That is the extent of my knowledge, as a friend's parents went there (obviosuly not that "gay" then :rolleyes: )
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Knowledge such as more people means there are more chances for you to make contacts??? :confused:
No, the accpetance of that fact. A lot of people don't think old boy networks still exist at all and that everything is equal when going for a job. Of course they are wrong.
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Maybe, but unless a potential employer asks which college you went to, there's no reason for them to ever find out. Your college doesn't need to go on your CV; afterall, your degree is awarded by Oxford university, not the individual colleges. And at the end of the day, it is an Oxford degree, which means that regardless of your college, it will be distinct from degrees from other unis.
Although they'll almost certainly ask you which college you went to at interview just to check it isn't "Brookes college, Oxford" (it has been tried), although you are right I don't think it makes much difference to anyone.
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Although they'll almost certainly ask you which college you went to at interview just to check it isn't "Brookes college, Oxford" (it has been tried), although you are right I don't think it makes much difference to anyone.
Heh yeah I think I've heard about that - wasn't it some American employer who though Oxford Brookes was a college of Oxford uni?
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Wadham is a very big college, and exceptionally strong academically, but its hard to measure how prestigious a college is. I don't think it matter that much either, unless the employer attended Oxford they wouldn't know what is a "good" college and what isn't, and even then it probable wouldn't be an employers major concern. For contacts (or the "old boys network") societies are just as important as colleges, that where all the academics visit.

… and Balliol is the "gay" college.
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