Dept. for Education: 'schools must actively promote British values' Watch

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According to the Guardian:

The DfE document says pupils should be taught “how democracy and the law work in Britain, in contrast to other forms of government in other countries”, and advises teachers to “consider the role of extracurricular activity, including any run directly by pupils, in promoting fundamental British values”.
What do you think 'British values' are? :erm:
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Honestly I think 'british' values would be the very same as 'american' 'german' 'french' and any other country's values. As it is DfE it would say British values are helping the community or people who are in need of help
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Honestly I think 'british' values would be the very same as 'american' 'german' 'french' and any other country's values. As it is DfE it would say British values are helping the community or people who are in need of help
Sorry, that's the Department for Education not Duke of Edinburgh (from the context of your post I think that's what you're referring to...?).

I have a feeling this is a reaction to the recent events with religious extremism.

They have decided that fundamental British values are:

Democracy,
The rule of law,
Individual liberty
Mutual respect and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs
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Oh whoops, yeah I was finding DofE in what I saw
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Oh whoops, yeah I was finding DofE in what I saw
My fault! Unclear title, made it clearer now!
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(Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
Sorry, that's the Department for Education not Duke of Edinburgh (from the context of your post I think that's what you're referring to...?).

I have a feeling this is a reaction to the recent events with religious extremism.

They have decided that fundamental British values are:

Democracy,
The rule of law,
Individual liberty
Mutual respect and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs
None of these are exclusively "British". Most western countries would also support these values.
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Are schools going to start serving warm beer?
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Don't see anything wrong with that. I support this, and sort of wish I'd had this at my school, rather than 'citizenship'.
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(Original post by VladThe1mpaler)
None of these are exclusively "British". Most western countries would also support these values.
Indeed.

I'm not entirely sure education should be about prescribing values in this way.
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Are schools going to start serving warm beer?
There will be Queuing lessons. Foundation and higher tier.
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How to make small talk about the weather
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(Original post by jenhasdreams)
How to make small talk about the weather
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TSR is on it already.
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(Original post by VladThe1mpaler)
None of these are exclusively "British". Most western countries would also support these values.
But that doesn't mean they aren't 'British' values...

People (like the Guardian) will criticise this because they associate any kind of patriotic feeling with Nationalism and the working class. But really, they should be praising it: all this is, is an affirmation that the British government rejects, outright, the current trend in extremism.

What's bad about that? Nothing.
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Nothing wrong with promoting patriotism. Why shouldn't be make children feel special and proud to be born into this country?

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Nothing wrong with promoting patriotism. Why shouldn't be make children feel special and proud to be born into this country?

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Why shouldn't be made special and proud for living in the borough they live?
Why shouldn't be made special and proud for living in the area they live?
Why shouldn't be made special and proud for being born in the day/month/year they were born?
Why shouldn't be made special and proud for wearing the clothes they wear?
Why shouldn't be made special and proud for eating the food they eat?

I hope you see your line of argument as a type of reductio ad absurdum.

Why? Because time at school is limited at there are more pressing matters (see falling numeracy ability of your average student).
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democracy, rule of law, common law, liberal values, common history
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(Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
Sorry, that's the Department for Education not Duke of Edinburgh (from the context of your post I think that's what you're referring to...?).

I have a feeling this is a reaction to the recent events with religious extremism.

They have decided that fundamental British values are:

Democracy,
The rule of law,
Individual liberty
Mutual respect and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs
It's funny because this just means that a few number of people in Britain decide what are the values commonly held by the highest number of Britons without consulting anyone or actually checking that those are the values.

(Original post by VladThe1mpaler)
None of these are exclusively "British". Most western countries would also support these values.
See the quote above. It is most likely a government reaction to the Trojan Horse event.
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what does it matter if they are not exclusive to Britain? They are still the values Britain abides by.
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(Original post by Puddles the Monkey)
Sorry, that's the Department for Education not Duke of Edinburgh (from the context of your post I think that's what you're referring to...?).

I have a feeling this is a reaction to the recent events with religious extremism.

They have decided that fundamental British values are:

Democracy,
The rule of law,
Individual liberty
Mutual respect and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs
Hah!

Education should be about educating and equipping the next generation for both further academia and a skillset on which to be employed. Not drilling propaganda into a child or forcing a child to revere the apparent values of its country.
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Invade and occupy other countries, talk about house prices, loose at football.
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