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James Milibanter
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As an Anarchist there are three things that I have found:
1. There is absolutely no representation for us. (except Russell Brand and he's a bit like marmite to be honest).
2. There is an extreme prejudice that we are all anti-social thugs that have mohawks and kick bins over.
and 3. More often than not we spend more time arguing against each other over our ideals than we do against the Neo-Liberals.
This is a forum as an attempt to find some common ground amongst us all and perhaps find a set of absolute anarchist fundamentals in which we can all agree upon.
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anarchy is quite possibly the worst possible thing I can conceive of, i'd take Hell over anarchy, at least it's ordered.
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anarchy is quite possibly the worst possible thing I can conceive of, i'd take Hell over anarchy, at least it's ordered.
I dont know whether that is ignorant or naive. How about reading Anarcho-Syndicalism by Rudolf Rocker or Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell, they will truly open your mind. It wont hurt to be a little more open-minded, not too much of course, if you open you mind too much your brain might fall out. Anarchism is based on the fact that as people we don't need etonian, oxbridge educated upper classes to represent us, they don't for a start, I have never once felt represented by Margaret Hodge, Ed Miliband, David Cameron or Tony Blair. So why can't we govern ourselves?
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(Original post by James Milibanter)
I dont know whether that is ignorant or naive. How about reading Anarcho-Syndicalism by Rudolf Rocker or Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell, they will truly open your mind. It wont hurt to be a little more open-minded, not too much of course, if you open you mind too much your brain might fall out. Anarchism is based on the fact that as people we don't need etonian, oxbridge educated upper classes to represent us, they don't for a start, I have never once felt represented by Margaret Hodge, Ed Miliband, David Cameron or Tony Blair. So why can't we govern ourselves?
I have read Peter Kropotkin's Mutual Aid, I am by no means ignorant of your unpleasant dogma which recommends poison to cure a headache. For a start it requires an investment of a substantial amount of time and familiarity to do foreign relations.
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I have read Peter Kropotkin's Mutual Aid, I am by no means ignorant of your unpleasant dogma which recommends poison to cure a headache.
There's no point in attacking him. He's looking for people with like-minded views, and if you haven't got like-minded views, what's the point on posting on the thread?
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I have read Peter Kropotkin's Mutual Aid, I am by no means ignorant of your unpleasant dogma which recommends poison to cure a headache. For a start it requires an investment of a substantial amount of time and familiarity to do foreign relations.
Well, no, we are being oppressed in almost every way due to capitalism and fascism masquerading as liberal democracy (i.e. as in the USA where murder is legal as long as you kill a black person). Anarchism worked in Catalonia until Franco and his fascist seized the area meanwhile turning all the leftists against each other. Might I say that Anarchism isn't a lack of order, much rather it is a lack of power, instead of being oppressed we live in a state of mutual respect for the purposes of progression instead of the gain of capital, an absence of socioeconomic inequality and social class. Anarchy represents order, respect and progress, capitalism is a state of oppression based on a wealth that values a person based on their excess rather than their character and virtues.
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I am a Loyalist. I watch Stefan Molyneux and I agree with a lot of what he says. However it is an atheist governmental system which couldn't work without religion, namely Protestantism. People like Peter Joseph and Noam Chomsky are tyrannical idiots.

I am a Loyalist, Loyal to the Glorious Revolution of 1688-1690, the English Bill of Rights and the British Monarchy. This is the closest anyone has came to freedom from government within a framework of laws designed to protect property and persons nothing more. It lead to the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution, massive improvement within Britain. Which in the end like always was turned into government tyranny with the Progressive Liberal era from the 1880's on wards. So I support the government system Britain had in the reign of Queen Ann.
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(Original post by william walker)
I am a Loyalist. I watch Stefan Molyneux and I agree with a lot of what he says. However it is an atheist governmental system which couldn't work without religion, namely Protestantism. People like Peter Joseph and Noam Chomsky are tyrannical idiots.

I am a Loyalist, Loyal to the Glorious Revolution of 1688-1690, the English Bill of Rights and the British Monarchy. This is the closest anyone has came to freedom from government within a framework of laws designed to protect property and persons nothing more. It lead to the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution, massive improvement within Britain. Which in the end like always was turned into government tyranny with the Progressive Liberal era from the 1880's on wards. So I support the government system Britain had in the reign of Queen Ann.
the Loyalist glorious revolution brought about "improvement" in what sense? were there equal rights? could women vote? was there a socioeconomic divide? explain this "improvement" you speak of.
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the Loyalist glorious revolution brought about "improvement" in what sense? were there equal rights? could women vote? was there a socioeconomic divide? explain this "improvement" you speak of.
Cultural stability, economic freedom and geopolitical power. That is how Britain improved. No there wasn't equal laws, the Protestants had domination over the governmental system. However their was for the first time full enforcement of the Magna Carta, meaning equality under the law in terms of enforcement, prosecution and punishment. No voting rights were restricted to those people who owned property. Yes there was a social economic divide. Some people got richer than others, but everybody in general terms got richer.
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anarchy is quite possibly the worst possible thing I can conceive of, i'd take Hell over anarchy, at least it's ordered.
Anarchy is highly organized.



Annarchism101 is possibly an anarchist :ninja:
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Lol anarchists using the internet.
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Lol anarchists using the internet.
An anti-US government defence spending Liberal Progressive using the internet. LOL.
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(Original post by James Milibanter)
As an Anarchist there are three things that I have found:
1. There is absolutely no representation for us. (except Russell Brand and he's a bit like marmite to be honest).
2. There is an extreme prejudice that we are all anti-social thugs that have mohawks and kick bins over.
and 3. More often than not we spend more time arguing against each other over our ideals than we do against the Neo-Liberals.
This is a forum as an attempt to find some common ground amongst us all and perhaps find a set of absolute anarchist fundamentals in which we can all agree upon.
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of anarchy? :holmes:

"Well, anarchism is, in my view, basically a kind of tendency in human thought which shows up in different forms in different circumstances, and has some leading characteristics. Primarily it is a tendency that is suspicious and skeptical of domination, authority, and hierarchy. It seeks structures of hierarchy and domination in human life over the whole range, extending from, say, patriarchal families to, say, imperial systems, and it asks whether those systems are justified. It assumes that the burden of proof for anyone in a position of power and authority lies on them. Their authority is not self-justifying. They have to give a reason for it, a justification. And if they can’t justify that authority and power and control, which is the usual case, then the authority ought to be dismantled and replaced by something more free and just. And, as I understand it, anarchy is just that tendency. It takes different forms at different times." - Chomsky.

I adhere to the above. I'm not an anarchist as such but I very much agree with the sentiment of that quote. It just seems like the most sensible approach to me. I gues you could say I am an anarchists sympathizer.
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Lol anarchists using the internet.
What? Why wouldn't they?
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Anarchy is highly organized.



Annarchism101 is possibly an anarchist :ninja:
Maybe in the head of thick anarchists, the reality is you can't have order without power.
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An anti-US government defence spending Liberal Progressive using the internet. LOL.
Keh?!
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(Original post by william walker)
Cultural stability, economic freedom and geopolitical power. That is how Britain improved. No there weren't equal laws, the Protestants had domination over the governmental system. However their was for the first time full enforcement of the Magna Carta, meaning equality under the law in terms of enforcement, prosecution and punishment. No voting rights were restricted to those people who owned property. Yes there was a social economic divide. Some people got richer than others, but everybody in general terms got richer.
You're welcome.
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What? Why wouldn't they?
I always find it amusing when groups use the tools provided by means that they are against.
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So what you're saying is anarchy is a "lack of power" but also we should "govern" ourselves. This is a contradiction, much like every other historical attempt at anarchism/communism/socialism it would collapse because the who idea of equality is impossible. I don't want to be giving up any of my possessions so that people can be 'equal'. Thanx for the offer tho.


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So what you're saying is anarchy is a "lack of power" but also we should "govern" ourselves. This is a contradiction, much like every other historical attempt at anarchism/communism/socialism it would collapse because the who idea of equality is impossible. I don't want to be giving up any of my possessions so that people can be 'equal'. Thanx for the offer tho.


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i think he means the lack of centralised power.
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