EU sues the UK & take us to court to give immigrants more benefits Watch

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The EU is suing the UK and taking us to EU courts to demand that the UK pays immigrants more benefits. The EU want all restrictions removed from immigrants claiming child benefits & child tax credits even those immigrants who have children in other countries! If the UK loses we will have to pay immigrants all the benefits or face huge fines.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-handouts.html
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How is what they demand remotely justified?
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Hence why we should leave the EU

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Moved to UK Politics.
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As long as they're working here I don't see why it really matters
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As long as they're working here I don't see why it really matters
This. ****ing sick of xenophobia in this country; I only hope when I move abroad people don't treat me as badly as English people treat anyone who's slightly different or not born here.
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This. ****ing sick of xenophobia in this country; I only hope when I move abroad people don't treat me as badly as English people treat anyone who's slightly different or not born here.
Agreed - tbh I prefer immigrants a lot of the time anyway, they're so much nicer than most English people aha.

Also, if a typical UKIP supporter/Daily Mail reader one day wished to emigrate to help their family but found out that actually they would not be supported by their new government, I've no doubt that they'd kick up a right fuss. Double standards brought about by a false idea of superiority and entitlement.
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Spain has a much fairer benefit system where you have to contribute first to get benefits
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(Original post by und3niable_)
This. ****ing sick of xenophobia in this country; I only hope when I move abroad people don't treat me as badly as English people treat anyone who's slightly different or not born here.
So you are generalising and being xenophobic while complaining about other people being xenophobic. Bully to you.

I employ 4 people who are EU immigrants, I force them to learn English and British history as I see it. Otherwise I sack them. I have sacked 3 people who didn't improve a quickly as I liked or refused to do what I wanted. No doubt I am xenophobic in your view for forcing these people to become British and improve. As I am Loyalist and want to reinforce my culture, language and way of life to have a stable culture, economic freedom and geopolitical power.
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(Original post by und3niable_)
This. ****ing sick of xenophobia in this country; I only hope when I move abroad people don't treat me as badly as English people treat anyone who's slightly different or not born here.
Try claiming welfare benfits abroad first before you start going off on one.
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(Original post by midgemeister7)
Agreed - tbh I prefer immigrants a lot of the time anyway, they're so much nicer than most English people aha.

Also, if a typical UKIP supporter/Daily Mail reader one day wished to emigrate to help their family but found out that actually they would not be supported by their new government, I've no doubt that they'd kick up a right fuss. Double standards brought about by a false idea of superiority and entitlement.
British people would have the capital needed to leave Britain without the support of their government. So why would UKIP make a fuss about the government leaving people alone?
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you certainly can in the eu... Why do you guys not realize that we are all equal as humans and that no one deserves better just becuase they are from a different country...
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(Original post by william walker)
So you are generalising and being xenophobic while complaining about other people being xenophobic. Bully to you.

I employ 4 people who are EU immigrants, I force them to learn English and British history as I see it. Otherwise I sack them. I have sacked 3 people who didn't improve a quickly as I liked or refused to do what I wanted. No doubt I am xenophobic in your view for forcing these people to become British and improve. As I am Loyalist and want to reinforce my culture, language and way of life to have a stable culture, economic freedom and geopolitical power.
English and English culture yes. English history...why? Obviously you 'teaching' them history will be from a biased subjective view, rather than them actually being interested in it and pursuing knowledge. And there's nothing wrong with that. I mean the active "Us and them" mentality so prevalent.


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Try claiming welfare benefits abroad first before you start going off on one.
My aim is to study and work, not claim benefits. But if I had to choose I'd go to Germany, their system is most like ours.
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(Original post by william walker)
So you are generalising and being xenophobic while complaining about other people being xenophobic. Bully to you.

I employ 4 people who are EU immigrants, I force them to learn English and British history as I see it. Otherwise I sack them. I have sacked 3 people who didn't improve a quickly as I liked or refused to do what I wanted. No doubt I am xenophobic in your view for forcing these people to become British and improve. As I am Loyalist and want to reinforce my culture, language and way of life to have a stable culture, economic freedom and geopolitical power.
I can only imagine how successful your business is....no offense.
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This is the Daily Mail recycling a fairly long running story which has been going on for a while now.
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Time frame and validity of the article aside- why should taxpayers have to provide for immigrants? They come here to work or to take refuge, I don't see why they should be paid for simply being immigrants (or being poor for that matter, although that's not an immigrant-specific issue).
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(Original post by Jemner01)
Time frame and validity of the article aside- why should taxpayers have to provide for immigrants? They come here to work or to take refuge, I don't see why they should be paid for simply being immigrants (or being poor for that matter, although that's not an immigrant-specific issue).
The idea is that they are treated the same as UK citizens so long as they pass the habitual residence test.
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I can only imagine how successful your business is....no offense.
I made £100,000 profit after tax last year and have just doubled the assets sheet of my business and employ 9 people from 4 last year because I have just have a £1.2 million contract over 3 years with £250,000 up front.

So I am doing rather well. I also own 3 houses and have bought the land to build a forth for myself.
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(Original post by und3niable_)
English and English culture yes. English history...why? Obviously you 'teaching' them history will be from a biased subjective view, rather than them actually being interested in it and pursuing knowledge. And there's nothing wrong with that. I mean the active "Us and them" mentality so prevalent.




My aim is to study and work, not claim benefits. But if I had to choose I'd go to Germany, their system is most like ours.
Would that be the German system that has banned foreigners from claiming benefits if they haven't paid into the system?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ss-eu-migrants
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(Original post by und3niable_)
English and English culture yes. English history...why? Obviously you 'teaching' them history will be from a biased subjective view, rather than them actually being interested in it and pursuing knowledge. And there's nothing wrong with that. I mean the active "Us and them" mentality so prevalent.
Yes.

I teach them about the Glorious Revolution, English Bill of Rights and British governmental system. The basis of the law in Britain. It is a simple half hour talk I do once a week until they understand.

If everybody is the same culturally there is no them and us, only we. I want a mono-culture where everybody has the same cultural belief and supports the governmental system. I even tell them where the local Anglican Church is if they want to go. I myself an not a Anglican.
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