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    Hello !!

    I'm a French student in education. I have to do a work concerning compared education. I have chosen to compare France and England, about schooling rythms (i don't know if it is the right expression. It means : organisation of the schooling year, of the week, holidays, schedules...) IN PRIMARY SCHOOL.

    In the context of this work, i have to talk with English people, especially teachers, in order to have testimonies.

    I would like to know, more precisely, the feelings, points of view about schooling rythms : the ones of teachers of primary schools, children, their parents. Are they satisfied by these schooling rythms ? Have they got some claims ? Are the schooling rythms efficient ? Are the childrens' knowledges satisfying ?

    Thanks a lot for your help !
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    Please, can somebody help me ?
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    (Original post by Thomasespe)
    Hello !!

    I'm a French student in education. I have to do a work concerning compared education. I have chosen to compare France and England, about schooling rythms (i don't know if it is the right expression. It means : organisation of the schooling year, of the week, holidays, schedules...) IN PRIMARY SCHOOL.

    In the context of this work, i have to talk with English people, especially teachers, in order to have testimonies.

    I would like to know, more precisely, the feelings, points of view about schooling rythms : the ones of teachers of primary schools, children, their parents. Are they satisfied by these schooling rythms ? Have they got some claims ? Are the schooling rythms efficient ? Are the childrens' knowledges satisfying ?

    Thanks a lot for your help !
    In Britain, the school year is split into three 'terms' (trimesters), which are:

    September - Christmas: AUTUMN TERM
    January - Easter: SPRING TERM
    Easter - July: SUMMER TERM

    Children get the following holidays:

    Once every term ("half-term holiday"): one week's holiday (October, February, May)
    Christmas: two weeks
    Easter: two weeks
    Summer: six weeks

    British pupils therefore get thirteen weeks holiday per year.

    Although this is less than pupils get in many other countries, many parents would like children to have fewer holidays. This is because most British workers only get four to five weeks holiday per year, and so have to find childcare for eight to nine weeks a year, which is very expensive.

    School holidays in Britain are centralised - most children across the country are on holiday at the same time. Parents are not allowed to take their children on holidays during school time - headteachers can refuse permission to do this, and if parents take their children regardless, they can be fined by the courts. This means that holiday companies have the power to raise their prices during school holidays, because they know that parents with children have no other choice than to pay. Parents would like more flexibility to take their children on holiday at different times of the year.

    Pupils go to school from Monday to Friday; the school day usually starts between 8:30am and 9:00am and ends between 3:00pm and 3:30pm. This also poses difficulties for parents as the working day is 9:00am to 5:00pm. For this reason many schools offer 'after-school clubs' where pupils can stay until 5:00pm and play games.

    If you have any other questions, just ask!
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    Thanksa lot for your answer, you're helping me a lot !


    Indeed Ihave some more questions :


    -from the parents point of view it's great ! Thanks for all these information.What's the teachers one ? Are they satisfied by the organization of the year ?The holidays ? The number of courses in the day ? Are they thinking that it'sthe better way to learn to their pupils ?
    -And the pupils, are they satisfied ? are they too tired ? Or are these rythmsadapted to their age ?
    -Concerning the after school clubs, are they free ? Cheap ? Expensive ?
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    (sorry for the double message)

    Moreover,i have read some things and i want to ask you if it's right :
    -I've read that pupils go to school 38 weeks a year... But we talk to me about13 weeks of holidays... Where is the 52nd week ?
    -I've read that there is a new organization of the schooling (in some schools),with 6 terms of 6 or 7 weeks in order to better balance the courses during theyear, is it right ?
    -i've understood that the organization of the schooling is thefollowing in England : nursery school from 3 to 5, primary school from 5 to 11, secondary school from 11 to 16 and sixth-form college from 16 to 18, is it right ?
    - Finally, have yougot some figures concerning primary education in England ? Is England a"good pupil" ?




    Again thanks a lot for your help !!! If you haven't got all these information , it's nota problem ! And sorry for all my language mistakes.
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    (Original post by Thomasespe)
    Hello !!

    I'm a French student in education. I have to do a work concerning compared education. I have chosen to compare France and England, about schooling rythms (i don't know if it is the right expression. It means : organisation of the schooling year, of the week, holidays, schedules...) IN PRIMARY SCHOOL.

    In the context of this work, i have to talk with English people, especially teachers, in order to have testimonies.

    I would like to know, more precisely, the feelings, points of view about schooling rythms : the ones of teachers of primary schools, children, their parents. Are they satisfied by these schooling rythms ? Have they got some claims ? Are the schooling rythms efficient ? Are the childrens' knowledges satisfying ?

    Thanks a lot for your help !
    There has been a lot of talk about axing the long summer holidays because in 6 weeks a lot of the most disadvantaged kids can forget what they have learnt. They may just get stuck in front of a tv for most of the time.
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    Thanks a lot for this piece of information !

    I guess it is from the teachers point of view ?
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    (Original post by Thomasespe)
    (sorry for the double message)

    Moreover,i have read some things and i want to ask you if it's right :
    -I've read that pupils go to school 38 weeks a year... But we talk to me about13 weeks of holidays... Where is the 52nd week ?
    -I've read that there is a new organization of the schooling (in some schools),with 6 terms of 6 or 7 weeks in order to better balance the courses during theyear, is it right ?
    -i've understood that the organization of the schooling is thefollowing in England : nursery school from 3 to 5, primary school from 5 to 11, secondary school from 11 to 16 and sixth-form college from 16 to 18, is it right ?
    - Finally, have yougot some figures concerning primary education in England ? Is England a"good pupil" ?




    Again thanks a lot for your help !!! If you haven't got all these information , it's nota problem ! And sorry for all my language mistakes.
    If you're wondering about the 52nd week, have a few one day holidays such as bank holiday and inset days (teacher training days) which probably make up that extra week

    And your right about the school system except Nursery is ages 2-4 and primary school starts at 4


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    Woops! Phone changed 3 to 2, Nursery starts at 3!


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    Thanks ! So nursury school lasts only one year and "Key stage 1" begin at 4 years old ?
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    Nursery duration varies, half will go for a 2 years (like me) and a few others start reception a few months after
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    I'm not sure to understand... I read different things about nursery/reception/beginning of primary school...

    Is the following organization right ?
    Age 3 to 4 : nursury
    Age 4 to 5 : reception
    Age 5 to 6 : year 1
    Age 6 to 7 : year 2
    Age 7 to 8 : year 3
    Age 8 to 9 : year 4
    Age 9 to 10 : year 5
    Age 9 to 11 : year 6
    Is reception belong to the primary school ? And is it a compulsory year or is year 1 (age 5 to 6) the first compulsory school year ?
    A lot of documents explain that primary education lasts only 6 years (from 5 to 11), after 2 optional early years (from 3 to 5, the nursury and the reception I guess...)
    Can a person explain me precisely ? Thanks a lot !!
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    (Original post by Thomasespe)
    I'm not sure to understand... I read different things about nursery/reception/beginning of primary school...

    Is the following organization right ?
    Age 3 to 4 : nursury
    Age 4 to 5 : reception
    Age 5 to 6 : year 1
    Age 6 to 7 : year 2
    Age 7 to 8 : year 3
    Age 8 to 9 : year 4
    Age 9 to 10 : year 5
    Age 9 to 11 : year 6
    Is reception belong to the primary school ? And is it a compulsory year or is year 1 (age 5 to 6) the first compulsory school year ?
    A lot of documents explain that primary education lasts only 6 years (from 5 to 11), after 2 optional early years (from 3 to 5, the nursury and the reception I guess...)
    Can a person explain me precisely ? Thanks a lot !!
    You're right but everyone starts school at Nursery - it's compulsory, so is reception so everyone starts school at 3 years old but nursery is split in morning and afternoon with two separate classes so really nursery is only a half day at school.


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    (Original post by Thomasespe)
    [b]Is reception belong to the primary school ?
    Yes, and usually the nursery will too


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    Thanks for these information !

    All the websites i've visited precise that compulsory school begin when child are 5 years old... So is this a mistake ?
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    (Original post by Thomasespe)
    Thanks for these information !

    All the websites i've visited precise that compulsory school begin when child are 5 years old... So is this a mistake ?
    Nursery is not compulsory - some children do not go to nursery. However the majority of children do go to nursery because:

    a) Parents work and need to put the child somewhere
    b) It's widely accepted that it's good for children to start to socialise at an early age
    c) It's thought that children build a better immunity to diseases when they mix with other children from an early age

    Some nurseries are attached to schools and some are independent. The state makes a contribution to nursery education for some children but parents often have to pay as well.

    However school isn't compulsory until the age of four, or five in some areas.

    Reception is the class for 4-5 year olds and is compulsory.
    5-6 years olds are then in Year 1, 6-7 year olds in Year 2, etc.
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    (Original post by anngeli)
    -from the parents point of view it's great ! Thanks for all these information.What's the teachers one ? Are they satisfied by the organization of the year ?The holidays ? The number of courses in the day ? Are they thinking that it'sthe better way to learn to their pupils ? -And the pupils, are they satisfied ? are they too tired ? Or are these rythmsadapted to their age ?
    -Concerning the after school clubs, are they free ? Cheap ? Expensive ?
    -I've read that pupils go to school 38 weeks a year... But we talk to me about13 weeks of holidays... Where is the 52nd week ?
    -I've read that there is a new organization of the schooling (in some schools),with 6 terms of 6 or 7 weeks in order to better balance the courses during theyear, is it right ?
    -i've understood that the organization of the schooling is thefollowing in England : nursery school from 3 to 5, primary school from 5 to 11, secondary school from 11 to 16 and sixth-form college from 16 to 18, is it right ?
    - Finally, have you got some figures concerning primary education in England ? Is England a"good pupil" ?
    Some answers to your other questions:

    - The average teacher in the UK works 60-70 hours (or more) per week, so they need lots of holidays to be able to catch up on work and have a rest. Many teachers still work during the holidays.
    - Most parents have to pay for after-school clubs. There are also 'Breakfast clubs' for parents who need to drop their children at school before the school day starts. Most parents also have to pay for Breakfast club, however in some areas, children now receive a free breakfast at school; this is because many children in England do not eat breakfast at home and it is considered vital for good learning.
    - Regarding the standard of primary education in England, it is generally considered that it could be a lot better. There are a high number of pupils - especially from disadvantaged backgrounds - who leave school unable to do basic maths and unable to read confidently. There is a lot of emphasis at the moment on "closing the gap", which means looking at why pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds do less well at school than those from more advantaged backgrounds, and thinking about what strategies we can use to "close this gap".
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    Thanks a lot for all these information which allow me to complete my work!!!

    Thanks too for the details concerning schooling in UK and precisely nursery and reception.
    So is these organization on the attached file right ?
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