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Reply 1
Don't think there's anyone on here with an Army medical cadetship. I will be putting my RN application in in a year, the process is very similar so I can help answer some questions if you like.
Reply 2
I've just passed my Medical AIB, haven't heard about the cadetship bit yet. Am more than willing to offer any pearls I have gleaned about the process. One of my mates has got his RAMC Arms Selection Board soon so can have a word if that's any use.

Soph
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Reply 3
wahey, you passed. well done. so i'm figuring it all went well. good luck for the future.

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Reply 4
Yup it went well. Board president said it was clear I'd worked hard on the areas that had left me down last time and as a result had got a strong score and should be very pleased with myself

Still can't quite believe it.

Have you been down for an Acquaint Visit yet?

Soph
Reply 5
Hi,

I just thought I'd let you know that I got offered a cadetship today so once the forms arrive, looks like the Navy have got me.

Soph
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Congratulations, a medical cadetship is quite some achievement. I'm having lunch with DGAMS tomorrow, want me to tell him what he is missing!?!
Reply 7
Well done. You must be very pleased. As 3port says an achievement to be proud of. Good luck in your career. Hope to join you in the RNMS one day. ;-) x

PS You ordered your sports car yet?
Reply 8
Thanks guys. I still can't quite believe it. After failing first time I thought I had no chance. Seriously to everyone don't be put off if you don't make it the first time. Listen to what they tell you to work on. If they tell you to come back then they basically do think you have the makings of an officer. Get your head down, focus on your weak spots and you WILL come out trumps.

3Port...enjoy your lunch with DGAMS if he's half as nice as his Senior Service counterpart you're in for a cracker.

Jay-D, if you or anyone want any advice just ask. I'm so grateful to all the stuff on here, it really did help. Off to the Porsche garage I go.

Soph
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Reply 9
hey! sorry havent looked at this thread for ages..!! because no one replied for the first five days so thought it died!:s-smilie:

but wow congratulations!!!!! :smile: I didnt realise there was going to be some sort of a test.. i was wondering could you give me some insight into what its like or about? (although i got to get through medical school first!) I'm really interested to know :smile:

i talked to some people via the TA forum and they gave me the link about the RAMC cadetship but it didn't say anything about a test! But i guess its standard procedure!

thanks for any help!
Reply 10
You have to pass your RCB like anyother potential officer if you want a cadetship. You can bang in your application 2nd year (to be corrected or supported by soph) of med school, for a cadetship. Bloody competitive, sure soph will be able to tell you a bit about AIB, bit different to RCB though. Sure wanna the army lads ll explain there isn't huge differences between a medical RCB and a regular one. Good luck with your application x
I have a feeling (though please correct me if I am wrong) that you get a 'normal' cadetship for the first 3 years in medical school and then after that you get the medical cadetship. I had a sheet on it abit back. If I can find it I'll scan it and message it to you.
Reply 12
Normally you just get a medcadetship for final 3 years.
Baically if you want to be a doctor they will give you a schlorship for a maximum of 6 years. A bursary will be given for the first 2-3 years and a cadetship for the last 3 years (6 years return service). If the schlor fails to get a Medical Cadetship, they could be sponsored up to the 6th year. Candidates failing to be accepted by the RAMC must attend CC and 3 years SSC or repay the sponsorship.

To get the bursary candidates must:
-have a confirmed place to read a recognised degree at a UK University or college of higher education, or be already reading for such a degree. Thoses with a conditional acceptance may apply but the award of a bursary is dependant on confirmation of acceptance.
-expect to enter Sandhurst immediatly after graduating and before their 29th birthday.
-satisfy nationality rules
-have passed RCB with the appropriate recommendation
-meet the required medical standars
-pass RCB by no later than 1 January in the final year of their course.

The undergraduate awards board decides on the award of bursaries to candidates who:
-have passed the RCB
-are at university or have a conditional place at the university of thier choice
-have passed a Medical Board
The board meets in September and March to consider the award of bursaries.

Candidates awarded the bursaries will be required to sign an undertaking that they will refund to the MOD the bursary payment if they do not serve for the required amount of time after the end of their course at Sandhurst.
Bursary holders are required to join the University Officer Training Corps and to carry out such part-time training as required by the commandinf Officer, although other worthwhile commitments will be taken into accoubt. Members of the UOTC are paid for their training and are also eligible for paid training attachments to units for part of the long vacations.
Bursary holders are not eligible to undertake an Undergraduate Army Placement. In all other regards bursary holders are regarded as ordinary undergraduates.

Undergraduate Bursars who fail to make satisfactory academic progress may have thier award terminated and be obliged to refund the monies disbursed by the MOD; or they may be asked to repeat part of their course with a view to completeing it satisfactorily.
Those who fail to complete their course through lack of ability or diligence, or have their awards terminated, may discharge their finacial obligations by entering RMAS as non-graduates on the commissioning course and serve for three years as a commissioned officer.

Candidates go through different stages of selection which are:
-Advice and sponsorship
-Preliminary choice of regiment or corps
-RCB briefing
-Formal appliction
-RCB
-Pre-Sandhurst training
-Entry to Sandhurst

Before attending RCB all candiates must attend an RCB briefing. The aim of this briefing, lasting one and a half days and held at Wesbury in Wiltshire, is to familiarise candidates with the RCB testing procedures, to underatke pyschometric tests and to ensure that all candidates start at the same point.
At the briefing candidates are advised whether:
-they would be suitable to go straight to RCB
-they would benifit from some delay and further preparation prior to attemping RCB
-they are unlikely to benifit from further preparation and are unlikely to pass RCB
-they are not considered suitable.

The application forms are issued to the candidate by his/her sponsor after the RCB briefing. Sponsors have been instructed to issue application forms to serious candidates only.
Candidates are required to enter the names of two referees on the form. As the headteacher or university tutor will automatically be asked for a reference for RCB, candidates should aviod these.
On reciept of the application form, the RCB will:
obtain reports from referees
arrange attedance at the RCB for selection tests.

After attending the RCB breifing and applying for a commision, candidates will be called forward to the RCB for tests of personality and leadership. These normally last from Tuesday to Friday morning.

For an undergraduate bursary you must apply by either 1st January or 1st July. You must pass the RCB by 1st August or 1st January in final year at university.
Nine months is the ideal time required to process an application. A submission after the latest date might mean that a candidate will have to be considered for a later entry, or miss the opportunity to take part in a particular scheme.

If you want the contact details for the Army Careers Advisor (Officer) in your area then PM me.
Reply 14
I don't know about Army TBH. My Navy careers officer told me that I am eligible for sponsorship through final 3 years of medical school. I know there are undergraduate bursaries but did not think med students were elligible for these. Soph can you clear this up? x
Yep in the army med students are eligible for the bursaries before the cadetship in the final three years of study. What I wrote was taken from the 'Entry into the army as an officer' booklet which I was given by my ACIO at the begining of July (so I expect it is uptodate).
But of course.

I get 3 years sponsorship for the last three years of my degree. This includes a salary, £14,000 in 3rd year, £15,500 in 4th year, £17,000 in final year. I also will have my tution fees paid and get a nomial book allowance.

If I remember correctly, the RAF do it differently.The total amount of the support is the same but in the 1st and 2nd years you get about £3000 and then 3rd year salary is £10,000 and increases similarly to the Royal Naval scheme. I didn't look too closely at the RAMC but I suspect that this might be their method as well.

Either way, you won't be short of cash....

Having said that, and I'm not doubting anyone's motives or intentions, you do have to want to be in the Services as the money won't be worth it if your 6 year return of service is a living hell.

Soph
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Reply 17
I'm an Army Scholar hoping to get a Medical cadetship at University. What soph said was basically right - you get paid quite a good amount for the last three years of medical school, provided you pass the RAMC ASB (rather than the normal RCB, or AOSB as it's called now). They also pay tuition fees and you get to do clinical attachments and electives in far-flung places with the Army.
From what I've gaine from my ACA and serving medical officers if spoken to, the cadetship seem a great opportunity, but you have to be really committed and know you want to do it as you have a return of service of 6/7 years and the working conditions can sometime be stressful.

Good luck with your your application,
sanderslr